Re: Major bugs in ODP.NET Driver 10.2.0.2 Beta
I'm sorry - we're not allowed to discuss Oracle bugs in the I-Hate-Oracle-Club?
(I hate to say it but) WTF?
I'm sorry - we're not allowed to discuss Oracle bugs in the I-Hate-Oracle-Club?
(I hate to say it but) WTF?
I know I'm a bit late on the thrashing the codebase front, but hopefully I can make up for it:
I seem to remember somebody suggesting that all the gotos in the SSDS codebase should be graphed. Ten minutes of coding later, and a quick download of the abomination that is source.txt, and I have created the following graph:
Line numbers are plotted from top to bottom, with goto statements on the left linked to labels on the right by colored lines. Blue lines indicate a goto to a later line (not quite as bad), and red lines indicate a goto links to an earlier line (spagettier). The black bars on the left and right of the graph indicate the relative density of the gotos and labels, respectively. The line numbers are also labeled on the far right hand side, in multiples of 200. I had initially hoped to graph everything with a 1:1 line-to-pixel ratio, and then I realized that there are over 10,000 lines of code in this monstrosity :P
@tster said:
thank god I put my foot in my mouth. I almost said, "I'd wager that this website is hosted my open source software. (Apache)." but I booted into linux and ran a little web client I just made and this website is infact hosted on a Windows box with server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0
Yeah, I'm don't think Linux will run ASP.Net applications.
This entire advertising thing has turned into a war between consumers and advertisers. Advertisers play ads during TV shows, so people mute them, so the advertisers make them more visually "loud", so people fast forward them, so then they switch to popup ads. People don't like advertising - it's distracting and annoying, and it detracts from the experiance.
Any kind of content-protection system can be thwarted, and if they become too insane (someone suggested TVs that only play digitally signed and secured content) then the public will drop the medium and someone will come up with something better. When channels started DVR-thwarting (randomly changing show broadcast times, running them 4 minutes past the end time so DVRs miss the ending), many people started getting shows off services like Bittorrent - it's fast, eay, has all of the commercials stripped out, and you can be sure that you got the entire show.
The main gripe that I have about advertising on websites is that when I'm browsing over a cellular connection ($1-5/MB anyone?) and the site loads (without asking) a 10mb Flash-based TV-quality video advertisment, eating up my bandwidth allowance for the next six months and forcing me to spend hours on the phone trying to purchase more bandwidth.
With regards to rights of data, the internet is a great divider. You can do whatever you want on your end of the connection - you can send me useful content, advertising, or whatever you want, and I can do whatever I want with it on my end. If I ignore some of the data you sent me, that's my choice. If you want to ignore my request for a page of you website, that's your choice. I did not sign a legal contract saying that I was required to view your advertising, and you did not sign a legal contract saying that you were required to give me copies of your webpages.
If you want me to sign a contract saying that I had to watch all of the advertising before I could watch this week's episode of House, well I have a choice to sign it or not.
@CPound said:
The best web technology available right now is .NET, hands down.
I agree 100%.
I do everything in ASP.Net and SQL Server, and I haven't had any trouble with it.
Man, I knew that character looked familiar. Good catch...
I've done that - the last place I worked, we used to do day trips up to our sattelite offices, and the boss would only ever stop at Tim Hortons. After getting up four hours early, and having a 17+ hour day ahead, their coffee starts to look really good...
Luckily everybody drinks Starbucks at the place I work now. Overpriced, but doesn't really matter when the boss is playing XD
My company is currently looking into adopting APEX to replace most of their intranet report site. How have you guys found it? Good? Bad? Any good rants? Any serious limitations? Anything to watch out for?
I'm mostly interested because I'll be dealing with it fairly regularly if the adoption goes through, and I figured I should do my homework before making any recommendations to management.
So... thoughts?
Spyware... with a memory leak. Gotta love Script Kiddies!
@beau29 said:
His attitude really pisses me off as well... you can't just assume resources are endless because it's 2008. All these people walking around saying how nobody needs to learn C, or pointers, or assembly, or optimization any more (and that everything can be written in C# / Java / Python) are the same people producing crappy bloatware like Word, Outlook, and IE.
While I agree with the sentiment, you realize Word, Outlook and IE aren't exactly written in Java, right...?
@Jeff S said:
Ever? You mean, since 2006 when you joined? Man, you are old school!
Yes, because I'm sure he didn't lurk for any time whatsoever before he created his account. </sarcasm>
More seriously though, trolls are an important part of this community - remember SpectateSwamp? He didn't write his 60(ish) page Desktop Search thread entirely by himself, after all.
And I understand your position, Jeff, I really do. You're trying to make TDWTF a more sensible place, which is a laudable goal. Unfortunately, deleting MPS's posts probably isn't the best way to go about doing it - argumentative or not, posts like his are important to this community. And I think if the community tires of him, it'll be pretty obvious, and there'll be a lot fewer people defending him in threads like these.
So... as was said earlier, I may not agree with what a lot of people on this forum say, but I do defend their right to say it. Please stop deleting people's posts unless they're obviously worthless (i.e. spam), or at least make sure you fully read the post in question (i.e. look at the tags).
Also, try not to mind the local troll population. They're fun, but they take some getting used to.
@Jake Grey said:
See, this is a pretty good argument against routinely arming our cops...
"Oh my god! Shoot it down!"
See, the scary part is what if they succeed?
To be honest, I think it was a pretty stupid idea to reveal the raw protocol information to the end user anyway. I suppose it's better than raw IP addresses (especially with IPv6 around the corner), but still, couldn't we have built something more sane?
Like... I dunno... coming up with some kind of location/companyname pair? Or at least having fewer special characters: email addresses are okay, with "user at example dot com". Couldn't we combine the http and www into something more practical, and have "web dash example dot com"? I know these musings aren't exactly RFC material, but honestly, if I have to listen to one more verbal pronounciation of http://www., I swear I'm going to break something ><
I do exactly the same thing - whenever I finish a thought, I automatically follow it up with Ctrl+S. This, however, is always lots of fun in environments where Ctrl+S means something other than "save" :)
Like... this edit box, f'rinstance. Firefox just offered to download a copy of the "Reply to an Existing Message" page for me. Thanks ><