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  • Wow. This is like finding a passenger pigeon. You've heard of such things, and you know they used to exist. You also know that they are all extinct now.

    Or so you thought.



  • It burns! It burns us! Nasty designerses!



  • O_O

    Oh wow. All we're missing here is the wooden table. Well, I have to at least give them credit for finding a way to completely solve browser standards discrepancies.



  • What a great idea! I'm trading in my CSS books for Photoshop.



  • That's what happens when your primary developer is not paid. Your sidekick would then have to take screenshots, print and photograph them, and then finally .....

    Edit: This is much better than today's featured WTF.



  • Further, I see that the web designer has not mastered the mysteries of the <TITLE> tag, either.




  • @R.Flowers said:

    Further, I see that the web designer has not mastered the mysteries of the <TITLE> tag, either.

    I doubt that the "web" "designer" has mastered any HTML tags at all... They probably think they don't need to know them any more than they need to know the inner workings of a .psd file.

    P.S. Off-topic, what the hell is the matter with the icons on this site (The Daily WTF)? Why are they so hideously resized?



  • It's a surprise Google has indexed this site.



  • Clearly this was designed with their OTHER best selling product:

    Web Site Design Pro 2006


    What better way to get a pixel perfect layout than using an image though, eh?

    So what if the image is half a meg and looks crappier than the equivalent 20k of html?!




  • Interviewer: We're looking for someone who has extensive web design experience.
    Candidate: We'll, I've used MS-Paint.
    Interviewer: You're HIRED!!



  • @marvin_rabbit said:

    Interviewer: We're looking for someone who has extensive web design experience.
    Candidate: We'll, I've used MS-Paint.
    Interviewer: You're HIRED!!


    PHB: On the other hand, we would prefer that you start learning Word. Our marketing department has speculated that Word is the key to good web design.



  • And it STILL doesn't validate!

    http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.thecorpament.com/

    If I have time this weekend I think I'll covert that to valid XHTML 1.0 strict.  It'd be cool to hack that website* and replace it with a valid one just to be a dick

    *haxing is wrong, dont hax



  • undoubtedly what happened was that they hired a design person to do these mockups, but then the deal fell through (maybe they tried to stiff someone on the price?) so they just took the mockups and threw them up on the web.  lovely!

    I just found something else that's funny.  On this page:
    http://www.thecorpament.com/About_Us.html

    note how the word "FAQ" in the footer is very obviously in a different font.  In the mockups that page probably didn't have FAQ in the footer.  It had something else.  So, rather than cut/paste the image of FAQ from one of the mockup pages that did have it, these morons just typed over it.  Wow.  such attention to detail.  I'm sure the product they sell is spectacular.



  • "FAQ" is in the same font, Tahoma.  What's different is that, unlike the rest of the page where the text has been scaled up, FAQ remains in its original size.

    This is caused by another WTF that I haven't seen anyone mention yet: the entire page has been scaled larger from the original.  It's been scaled about 125% (guessing) larger.

    Why?  I dunno...



  • I know what this is...you know those postings people make on USENET and forums asking questions like "How do I prevent people from reading my HTML source?" -- because these noobs think that they have done something brilliant that someone else might want to rip off?

    This is the solution. Try to "view source" now you HTML pirates!



  • <FONT face=Tahoma>Wow! Nice site! Lot's of "patched in" texts... I really hope they support skinning though, that would really be a nice feature... :)

    Notice the use of the .aspx extension (</FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff>http://www.thecorpament.com/</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT color=#0000ff>default.aspx</FONT></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma>)? Dynamically generated image? Dynamically generated map coords? Or is it just to make the site look enterprisey? Nevermind...

    Other pages are static though.

    Rapid Web Application Development... or not...



    </FONT>



  • @neven said:


    P.S. Off-topic, what the hell is the matter with the icons on this site (The Daily WTF)? Why are they so hideously resized?


    Because they're all converted into lossy JPEGs, regardless of the
    format in which you submit them.  And yes that's a big fat
    WTF.  It's also ironic considering Windows had a known
    vulnerability with its JPEG decoder for quite some time (see
    http://secunia.com/advisories/12528/ ).



  • @edremy said:

    And the best part: it's another site where you can order -1 of something!

    I just ordered -2 copies of their videogame programming tool, shipped to "Website Programmer" at their address and told them to bill me later.

    But hey, when you order a negative amount, the shipping is computed correctly- it's negative as well.

    Should be amusing to see if anyone in sales catches it.



    Only with javascript turned off... client-side only validation, yet another WTF.



  • I think I found the winner - The 'User Agreement' page clocks in at a slim 1.8 meg.



  • @marvin_rabbit said:

    Interviewer: We're looking for someone who has extensive web design experience.
    Candidate: We'll, I've used MS-Paint.
    Interviewer: You're HIRED!!

    <font size="5">S</font>peaking of MS-Paint--Alex has a very funny blog post at http://weblogs.asp.net/alex_papadimoulis/archive/2005/11/13/430478.aspx



  • @msarnoff said:

    And what exactly does their product do? Sheesh, even the game industry is getting "enterprisey" these days...


    People have been releasing these "Game Builder" apps for well over a decade.  Basically, they build a somewhat decent game engine, some half-assed tools for level creation, maybe some sprite modification, stuff like that, and then sell it at a pretty hefty price.

    In short, you only write half a game, don't build any levels, and sell it at 10x the price the resulting game woulda sold for.

    Imagine ID, except they never actually release Quake games, they just try to sell the engine without any sort of proof of concept.



  • @msarnoff said:

    @merreborn said:
    @msarnoff said:
    And what exactly does their product do? Sheesh, even the game industry is getting "enterprisey" these days...


    People have been releasing these "Game Builder" apps for well over a decade.  Basically, they build a somewhat decent game engine, some half-assed tools for level creation, maybe some sprite modification, stuff like that, and then sell it at a pretty hefty price.

    In short, you only write half a game, don't build any levels, and sell it at 10x the price the resulting game woulda sold for.

    Imagine ID, except they never actually release Quake games, they just try to sell the engine without any sort of proof of concept.

    Yes, I've heard of those, but I don't think this program generates any code at all. It looks like a tool for facilitating game design: essentially a fancy version of Microsoft Word.


    Yep.  It looks like something that might actually be useful to help someone with a good idea but poor organization skills build decent design docs.  I don't think it's an engine, though.

    The EULA makes for interesting reading, too ...

    IANAL, but it looks like "The Software" (and "The Company") operate on a subscription model to some sort of web app ...

    Perhaps more scary is Section 3.06 where you agree that if you "The Subscriber" post something to "The Website," "The Company" suddenly obtains any and all rights to said content.  IOW, don't "post "your killer game design.  But, it seems that if you're using their "Software," you're "posting" to their website.

    Or, not.  I'm not going to buy this piece of shit to find out.

    Oh, yeah, love the jpeg-ification of all of that text, too.  If you're going to this brain-dead route for your site, at least .png the images so they don't look like shit.



  • I think I know what the problem is...it's not real! Someone at the company said its just a place-holder and they're experimenting with designs or something, the real one will be up later in the week, they're not even in business yet (which is stupid because they're advertising all over the net already).  If you search for their company you'll see a bunch of press releases talking about how they just released this program.

    and here I was gettin' my knuckles all lined up for nuthin'... 



  • We've seen websites like that before here on The Daily WTF.

    This is a perfect example of a Web 0.1 website.



  • @savar said:

    I know what this is...you know those postings people make on USENET and forums asking questions like "How do I prevent people from reading my HTML source?" -- because these noobs think that they have done something brilliant that someone else might want to rip off?

    This is the solution. Try to "view source" now you HTML pirates!


    Hehe I absolutely had to take a look at the source HTML

    This is brilliant

    Mike Rod



  • Oooh! I've programmed games for 15 years and I gotta say I'm very, very impressed with that product! It seems so well-structured, informative, streamlined, versitile, in short powerful!

    I'm especially overawed by the good grammar and spelling on the site, and such powerful features in the software as "add words". But we all know that knowing the actual 3D APIs and solid programming skills are really only mental obstacles to writing The Game, using the prophetic words of the greatest designer of all time, Derek Smart (Ph.D). Real visionaries need the tools to see beyond implementation details --there are no limitations or restrictions, only delegation of implementation-- and we've just been served that solution on an electrum platter. Mmmm...



  • That website makes me yearn for the days when webpages had a pleasant grey background with the default serif font.  Those really were the days...



  • I'd like to see you come up with a title better than "default".



  • If at least the HTML was correct, I would say "been there".
    I'm doing small web pages for even smaller amounts of money every now and then, and once it went like  this:
    "Can you link my pages together and add some dynamic content? For XX€?"
    "Sure.. I can't design though".
    "Yeah, someone else is doing it, you'll just have to add the logic"
    "So.. I'm receiving the finished HTML then?"
    "Yeah"
    "Fine"

    In the end I got a .zip with 10 .jpgs..
    You can guess what the answer to my "Well.. I could slice and put it together myself, but not for XX€.." was.



  • @Mikademus said:

    using the prophetic words of the greatest designer of all time, (name deleted)


    My god man, what have you done?  You have uttered The Name.  Don't you know?  It is forbidden to utter The Name.  You'll bring Him here, and then we shall all perish in the flamewars.  Even beanbag chair girl will not survive the smoking remnant of this forum!  Oh, what have you done?  We're all doomed.

    Moderators, please - please for the love of all that is sacred and holy, delete Mikademus' post.  Quickly.  Before it is too late.



  • At least it looks the same in every browser you open it in.

    Unless you use lynx.



  • Wow. They shut us the hell up. I guess they were just playing around with designs. Check it out now.

    www.thecorpament.com



  • @Graham said:

    50-100 times less expensive to fix an error
    SOLD!

    Two thoughts:

     - They finally paid the owed amount to the web designer

      - Now is 50-200 times less expensive to fix an error, wow, and just by changing to html.



  • @tofu said:

    My god man, what have you done?  You have uttered The Name.  Don't you know?  It is forbidden to utter The Name.  You'll bring Him here, and then we shall all perish in the flamewars.  Even beanbag chair girl will not survive the smoking remnant of this forum!  Oh, what have you done?  We're all doomed. Moderators, please - please for the love of all that is sacred and holy, delete Mikademus' post.  Quickly.  Before it is too late.

    Oh, yeah, you're right, didn't think about that really. Bummer. Sorry for dooming you all and all that. Btw, didn't I just see a new user registering using the name "Supreme Commander"?



  • @ITripBlindKids said:

    Wow. They shut us the hell up. I guess they were just playing around with designs. Check it out now.

    www.thecorpament.com


    Hmm, yeah, looks like a "normal" web site now. Though it's still a minor WTF that their test system would have been visible to the general public like that.



  • @db2 said:

    @ITripBlindKids said:
    Wow. They shut us the hell up. I guess they were just playing around with designs. Check it out now.

    www.thecorpament.com


    Hmm, yeah, looks like a "normal" web site now. Though it's still a minor WTF that their test system would have been visible to the general public like that.

    <FONT face=Tahoma color=#000000>And that test system still resides in the same box... http://www.thecorpament.com/default.aspx



    </FONT>



  • @xrT said:

    @db2 said:
    @ITripBlindKids said:
    Wow. They shut us the hell up. I guess they were just playing around with designs. Check it out now.

    www.thecorpament.com


    Hmm, yeah, looks like a "normal" web site now. Though it's still a minor WTF that their test system would have been visible to the general public like that.

    <font color="#000000" face="Tahoma">And that test system still resides in the same box... http://www.thecorpament.com/default.aspx

    </font>

    For all it's flaws, at least the image version doesn't make a godawful screech sound when you hover over the 'Home' and 'Buy' button. Strangely the other buttons in the same row are silent too. Bug?



  • @VGR said:

    @neven said:

    P.S. Off-topic, what the hell is the matter with the icons on this site (The Daily WTF)? Why are they so hideously resized?


    Because they're all converted into lossy JPEGs, regardless of the
    format in which you submit them.  And yes that's a big fat
    WTF.


    Actually, it doesn't seem to be anything to do with it being converted
    to JPG. Some experimentation actually suggests that it's a resizing WTF.



    As far as I can see, all images submitted are resized to 40x40 and then
    displayed at 50x50. I'm 95% sure that this is what's happeneing,
    although the question would by WHY??? Why resize images to a size
    smaller than you're going to display them at, and then resize them
    upwards again to what is possibly the originally submitted size? Oh,
    and it appears to be a lame resizing filter too, which is why they look
    so 'blocky'.





    As for the thread WTF - I was looking at the site for a good few
    minutes thinking "what's wrong with that, apart from using flash?" Sure
    it's not the best, but not WTF-worthy.



    Then I saw the original posted.... hahahahahahahaha! Looking at the
    image, ironically that seems to have seen some dodgy resizing too.



  • <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #aceffb">"50 to 200 times less expensive to fix errors"</FONT>

    <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #aceffb">It used to cost us $100 to fix an error, now it costs us -$5000 to -$20000.  We make money out of thin air when we fix errors!</FONT>

    <FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #aceffb">Get your work done in 120% less time!  Done before you start!</FONT>


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