Tabs have come Full-Circle



  • This is a screenshot of Firefox in windows 8 with the option "Show tab previews in the Windows taskbar" checked.


    The worst thing is that I like it.



  • @dhromed said:

    This is a screenshot of Firefox in windows 8 with the option "Show tab previews in the Windows taskbar" checked.
    IE8 does it in Windows 7, as does IE9, as well as Opera.

    I found it handy if the window is minimized or I have a lot of tabs open and can't tell which is which.


  • sockdevs

    @dhromed said:

    This is a screenshot of Firefox in windows 8 with the option "Show tab previews in the Windows taskbar" checked.


    The worst thing is that I like it.

    Also applies to Win7.

    So where's the WTF? It's a good feature.

     



  •  Hmm I've checked the option but unable to see anything special (Windows 7). Strange. But yeah this option's been in Firefox for a while now. Besides, I fail to see the WTF in a useful feature. :)



  • @RaceProUK said:

    So where's the WTF?
     

    Why does someone have so many posts from the dailywtf open at the same time? O wait, it's dhromed, compulsive poster, 2nd class. There's your WTF.



  • Kind of useful, but Windows doesn't allow the thumbnail previews to go onto a second row. It's all too easy to have enough tabs open that you get no previews at all. (Granted, my main window has 16 tabs and I think you can configure Windows to show at least that many in a single row, space permitting of course, and I am not sure that many will fit in 1600×1200.)

    Curious – I've never seen the coalesced back/forward button before: turns out it's because I have Undo Close Tab and New Tab buttons between Forward and the address bar.



  •  Oh, I just go to Not Read and bring up the lot.



  • Great! Now I miss this feature on Linux. Thank you very much!




  • I personally hate the feature and think it is the exact opposite of what tabs were originally meant to achieve.

    Worse still, last time I checked (probably FF 4 or something, which translated to 3 days ago with the release shedule nowadays) the option was on by default and could only be disabled in about:config... One of the reasons I switched to chrome.



  • @dhromed said:

     Oh, I just go to Not Read and bring up the lot.

    I do that too, but there are 8000 topics there



  • @dhromed said:

    This is a screenshot of Firefox in windows 8 with the option "Show tab previews in the Windows taskbar" checked.


    The worst thing is that I like it.

    The real WTF is (pick one):

    • Having a VGA cable that is not connected properly (which explains the fucked up colors)
    • A napster icon on the task bar
    • Using VirtualBox
    • Using VirtualBox in some retarded european language
    • Posting ugly screen shots at 2:32 AM instead of going to one of those european raves with tall blonde bisexual women where you may end up meeting Techno Viking


  • ... You're just now noticing that Windows does that?

    Translation of post: "Firefox finally added a feature that both IE and Chrome have done by default since Windows 7 was released!"



  • @Speakerphone Dude said:

    • A napster icon on the task bar

    The Napster cat looked pretty healthy. That would be the Napster cat’s skull after the it went under a garden roller. You could even say that the cat was foobar’d …



  • Oh hey I'm wrong, Chrome doesn't do that currently. But I'm pretty sure it used to, God knows what version.



  • Windows  development team:

    1. Lets remove names from tasks on the task bar.

    2. Wait it's now hard to know which task is which when you have multiple instances

    3. Lets bring up a thumbnail when the mouse hovers over the task.

    4. Wait it's still hard to identify which is which for some apps.

    5. Lets de construct browser tabs to multiple thumbnails

     

    How i use Windows:

    1. Windows classic theme

    2. Use small icons

    3. Turn off Areopeek

     

     

     

     

     



  • @blakeyrat said:

    ... You're just now noticing that Windows does that?
     

    Firefox only has that option in Wndows 8, and, apparently, Windows 7 (on which I have never used FFX fore more than 30 seconds).

    If you're referring to the thumbnail popup, then yes, obviously I know about it; it's just the Firefox option that was new to me.

    @blakeyrat said:

    Translation of post: "Firefox finally added a feature that both IE and Chrome have done by default since Windows 7 was released!"

    I have never used IE or Chrome on 7 or 8.




  • @Speakerphone Dude said:

    Using VirtualBox
     

    VirtualPC doesn't support Windows 8. I might look into VMware, but eh, Box was first, and it works. So why bother?

     



  • @dhromed said:

    @Speakerphone Dude said:

    Using VirtualBox
     

    VirtualPC doesn't support Windows 8. I might look into VMware, but eh, Box was first, and it works. So why bother?

     

    So in this specific instance:

    Microsoft's software doesn't support Windows.

    Oracle has something that doesn't have more WTFs than there are bytes of overhead in a Community Server POST request.



  • @Ben L. said:

    Oracle has something that doesn't have more WTFs than there are bytes of overhead in a Community Server POST request.
     

    To be fair, the only oracle thing about it is the logo.



  • @dhromed said:

    screenshot
    My eyes. The goggles do nozing.

    @Daniel Beardsmore said:

    Curious – I've never seen the coalesced back/forward button before: turns out it's because I have Undo Close Tab and New Tab buttons between Forward and the address bar.
    Maybe it's because the look of the back/forward buttons changes every other FF version, i.e. twice a month.



  • @topspin said:

    Maybe it's because the look of the back/forward buttons changes every other FF version, i.e. twice a month.

    I don't think the buttons have changed in a while – they just added a toolbar behaviours that depend on you placing certain buttons directly adjacent to the address bar, in the precise order: Back, Forward, Address, Reload, Stop. It's just weird, and I've had buttons between Back/Forward and Address for years, and never realised that Forward only appears on demand in canonical button order now. At some point the big round back button must have disappeared as a result.

    @dhromed said:

    Firefox only has that option in Wndows 8, and, apparently, Windows 7 …

    As opposed to XP's taskbar thumbnail facility? Or is this a tacit admission that you're a Vista user?



  • @Daniel Beardsmore said:

    I don't think the buttons have changed in a while
    Well, I think for me the buttons have changed again from round buttons in 13 (??) to flat square ones in 14. And I too have other buttons between the address bar.



  • @dhromed said:

    @Speakerphone Dude said:

    Using VirtualBox
     

    VirtualPC doesn't support Windows 8. I might look into VMware, but eh, Box was first, and it works. So why bother?

     

    Well don't come back whining about poor Windows 8 performance if you keep using a lousy product like VirtualBox. Install VMware player, THEN complain about Windows 8 performance.



  • @Speakerphone Dude said:

    @dhromed said:

    @Speakerphone Dude said:

    Using VirtualBox
     

    VirtualPC doesn't support Windows 8. I might look into VMware, but eh, Box was first, and it works. So why bother?

     

    Well don't come back whining about poor Windows 8 performance if you keep using a lousy product like VirtualBox. Install VMware player, THEN complain about Windows 8 performance.

    Uh, excuse me? I use VirtualBox on a Pentium 4 and the archlinux VM runs faster* than the computer hosting it.

    * Claim not validated



  • @Ben L. said:

    @Speakerphone Dude said:
    @dhromed said:

    @Speakerphone Dude said:

    Using VirtualBox
     

    VirtualPC doesn't support Windows 8. I might look into VMware, but eh, Box was first, and it works. So why bother?

     

    Well don't come back whining about poor Windows 8 performance if you keep using a lousy product like VirtualBox. Install VMware player, THEN complain about Windows 8 performance.

    Uh, excuse me? I use VirtualBox on a Pentium 4 and the archlinux VM runs faster* than the computer hosting it.

    * Claim not validated

    You have an actual Pentium 4? Do you by any chance have a yellowed CRT monitor that buzzes a little and a Winmodem?

    ps: Take you invalidated claim and shove it up the orifice of your choice.



  • ‮@‮Speakerphone Dude said:

    @‮Ben L. said:
    @‮Speakerphone Dude said:
    @‮dhromed said:

    @‮Speakerphone Dude said:

    ‮Using VirtualBox
     

    ‮VirtualPC doesn't support Windows 8. I might look into VMware, but eh, Box was first, and it works. So why bother?

     

    ‮Well don't come back whining about poor Windows 8 performance if you keep using a lousy product like VirtualBox. Install VMware player, THEN complain about Windows 8 performance.

    ‮Uh, excuse me? I use VirtualBox on a Pentium 4 and the archlinux VM runs faster* than the computer hosting it.

    * Claim not validated

    ‮You have an actual Pentium 4? Do you by any chance have a yellowed CRT monitor that buzzes a little and a Winmodem?

    ‮ps: Take you invalidated claim and shove it up the orifice of your choice.


  • sockdevs

     PENGUINS!



  • @Ben L. said:

    ‮@‮Speakerphone Dude said:
    @‮Ben L. said:
    @‮Speakerphone Dude said:
    @‮dhromed said:

    @‮Speakerphone Dude said:

    ‮Using VirtualBox
     

    ‮VirtualPC doesn't support Windows 8. I might look into VMware, but eh, Box was first, and it works. So why bother?

     

    ‮Well don't come back whining about poor Windows 8 performance if you keep using a lousy product like VirtualBox. Install VMware player, THEN complain about Windows 8 performance.

    ‮Uh, excuse me? I use VirtualBox on a Pentium 4 and the archlinux VM runs faster* than the computer hosting it.

    * Claim not validated

    ‮You have an actual Pentium 4? Do you by any chance have a yellowed CRT monitor that buzzes a little and a Winmodem?

    ‮ps: Take you invalidated claim and shove it up the orifice of your choice.


    reading these posts i'm freaking out, I feel like Jack Bauer when he got on the wrong side of the mirror in the movie Mirrors



  • @‮Speakerphone Dude said:

    @‮Ben L. said:
    ‮@‮Speakerphone Dude said:
    @‮Ben L. said:
    @‮Speakerphone Dude said:
    @‮dhromed said:

    @‮Speakerphone Dude said:

    ‮Using VirtualBox
     

    ‮VirtualPC doesn't support Windows 8. I might look into VMware, but eh, Box was first, and it works. So why bother?

     

    ‮Well don't come back whining about poor Windows 8 performance if you keep using a lousy product like VirtualBox. Install VMware player, THEN complain about Windows 8 performance.

    ‮Uh, excuse me? I use VirtualBox on a Pentium 4 and the archlinux VM runs faster* than the computer hosting it.

    * Claim not validated

    ‮You have an actual Pentium 4? Do you by any chance have a yellowed CRT monitor that buzzes a little and a Winmodem?

    ‮ps: Take you invalidated claim and shove it up the orifice of your choice.


    ‮reading these posts i'm freaking out, I feel like Jack Bauer when he got on the wrong side of the mirror in the movie Mirrors

    ‮No no no, you have to do it like this.



  • @RaceProUK said:

    Also applies to Win7.

    So where's the WTF? It's a good feature.

     

    Let me ask you, why you use tabs, instead (or in addition to) of windows to organize things in your browser? Is it to group things by window, so you can switch fast between the groups? Because that was the only advantaje of tabs that I'm aware of, and this thing makes it go away.

    Or you use only one window? In this case, yeah, it makes no difference, and ditching the organization to the window manager is better.

     



  • @Zecc said:

    Great! Now I miss this feature on Linux. Thank you very much!
    It's Firefox - there's bound to be an extension that does something of the kind (thumbnail previews).



  • @Watson said:

    @Zecc said:

    Great! Now I miss this feature on Linux. Thank you very much!
    It's Firefox - there's bound to be an extension that does something of the kind (thumbnail previews).

    I have a good idea for a Firefox extension: it would launch Chrome whenever someone tries to use Firefox, unless it is started with a "I'm a web developer and I have to make sure that the web page I created works on retarded browsers" parameter.



  • @Speakerphone Dude said:

    @Watson said:

    @Zecc said:

    Great! Now I miss this feature on Linux. Thank you very much!
    It's Firefox - there's bound to be an extension that does something of the kind (thumbnail previews).

    I have a good idea for a Firefox extension: it would launch Chrome whenever someone tries to use Firefox, unless it is started with a "I'm a web developer and I have to make sure that the web page I created works on retarded browsers" parameter.

    Can we make it work in Safari, IE, and Opera too?


  • @Daniel Beardsmore said:

    @Speakerphone Dude said:

    • A napster icon on the task bar

    The Napster cat looked pretty healthy. That would be the Napster cat’s skull after the it went under a garden roller. You could even say that the cat was foobar’d …

     

     

    If someone didn't get what Daniel was implying, the "Napster" icon is actually for foobar2000

     



  • @Daniel Beardsmore said:

    As opposed to XP's taskbar thumbnail facility? Or is this a tacit admission that you're a Vista user?
     

    What?

    I'm talking about the checkbox option in firefox, as evidenced by the words "firefox has that option".



  • @Shinhan7 said:

    If someone didn't get what Daniel was implying, the "Napster" icon is actually for foobar2000
     

    Hey, I let it slide because Speaker was just trollin'.



  • @dhromed said:

    @Shinhan7 said:

    If someone didn't get what Daniel was implying, the "Napster" icon is actually for foobar2000
     

    Hey, I let it slide because Speaker was just trollin'.

    For you it's "Mr Speakerphone", yokel.



  • @dhromed said:

    @Daniel Beardsmore said:

    As opposed to XP's taskbar thumbnail facility? Or is this a tacit admission that you're a Vista user?
     

    What?

    I'm talking about the checkbox option in firefox, as evidenced by the words "firefox has that option".

    I wasn't sure what other version of Windows you were imagining that this feature was implemented for. Windows 7 is getting old now, don't forget.


  • sockdevs

    @Mcoder said:

    @RaceProUK said:

    Also applies to Win7.

    So where's the WTF? It's a good feature.

     

    Let me ask you, why you use tabs, instead (or in addition to) of windows to organize things in your browser? Is it to group things by window, so you can switch fast between the groups? Because that was the only advantaje of tabs that I'm aware of, and this thing makes it go away.

    Or you use only one window? In this case, yeah, it makes no difference, and ditching the organization to the window manager is better.

    I only use the one window, so having the previews means if the browser isn't front and centre, I have two-click access to any tab.



  • @Watson said:

    @Zecc said:

    Great! Now I miss this feature on Linux. Thank you very much!
    It's Firefox - there's bound to be an extension that does something of the kind (thumbnail previews).

    Actually I don't even have window previews in my WM at all, so I guess I don't miss it that much.

    And besides, it probably wouldn't be a good idea anyway:

     


     

     



  • @Speakerphone Dude said:

    The real WTF is (pick one):

    • Having a VGA cable that is not connected properly (which explains the fucked up colors)
    • A napster icon on the task bar
    • Using VirtualBox
    • Using VirtualBox in some retarded european language
    • Posting ugly screen shots at 2:32 AM instead of going to one of those european raves with tall blonde bisexual women where you may end up meeting Techno Viking

    A bad VGA cable would only be noticeable in a screenshot if it was on a wooden table. TRWTF is he actually chose those colors and since it's a VM guest we've actually got two different WTF color schemes in play.



  •  TRWTF is that someone thinks VirtualPC is better than anything.

    One could certainly argue that VMWare player is superior virtualization software, but VirtualBox is great for personal use, due to the fact that (a) it works and (b) you don't need separate software to actually create a new VM.

    And it's more a Sun product than an Oracle one. When Oracle bought it, they really just changed the logo.



  • @Shinhan7 said:

    If someone didn't get what Daniel was implying, the "Napster" icon is actually for foobar2000

    @foobar2000 said:

    foobar2000 is an advanced freeware audio player for the Windows
    platform. Some of the basic features include full unicode support, ...

    Really, the first feature on the list is unicode support?

    It's not a text editor. That's like putting "doesn't have the Y2K bug anymore" on the list. First.



  • @topspin said:

    Really, the first feature on the list is unicode support?

    It's not a text editor. That's like putting "doesn't have the Y2K bug anymore" on the list. First.

    I wish Unicode support was as widespread and reliable as you’re implying it is.

    I think that, as of version 9, IE is now capable of substituting in characters from fonts other than those explicitly specified in the CSS, so that's a step forward. I assume it was the last browser on the planet that would still show squares if you used a character from an unexpected part of Unicode relative to the source nationality of the font chosen. (A good one was the ₂ in O₂ but you'd get it with regular language text as well.)



  • @ShatteredArm said:

    ...but VirtualBox is great for personal use, due to the fact that (a) it works and (b) you don't need separate software to actually create a new VM.

    You've always been able to do this with VMWare Player, though it required copying the (plain text) configuration file from one VM and editing it a little. Not as friendly as clicking a menu or a button, obviously, but still pretty easy to do. I don't recall when they added the "Create New Virtual Machine" option into the interface, but I think it was a few years ago.



  • @topspin said:

    Really, the first feature on the list is unicode support?

    It comes in very handy when dealing with ID3 tags in foreign languages. Often cited examples for this are soundtracks of anime or japanese videogames. It's also a necessity when you want to localize your software into many different languages and expect any localization to render its text faithfully on any non-unicode codepage in Windows.

    Also consider that foobar2000 became popular on Windows precisely because the leading competitor, WinAmp, at the time did not support Unicode (well). For the longest time the lack of proper Unicode support was one of the most recurring complaints on WinAmp's official forums. Even when Unicode support finally did arrive, WinAmp still couldn't handle the rendering part correctly without turning off its skinned fonts and letting the OS render the text directly. Not sure if they ever did fix that...



  • @boomzilla said:

    @ShatteredArm said:
    ...but VirtualBox is great for personal use, due to the fact that (a) it works and (b) you don't need separate software to actually create a new VM.

    You've always been able to do this with VMWare Player, though it required copying the (plain text) configuration file from one VM and editing it a little. Not as friendly as clicking a menu or a button, obviously, but still pretty easy to do. I don't recall when they added the "Create New Virtual Machine" option into the interface, but I think it was a few years ago.

     

    Last time I used VMWare Player was in the config file days.

    I think my point that VirtualBox is far superior to VirtualPC still stands.



  • @ShatteredArm said:

    I think my point that VirtualBox is far superior to VirtualPC still stands.

    VirtualPC is different from VMware because you can actually emulate different hardware. VirtualBox may or may not be better than VirtualPC but who cares, both are a piece of shit used only by people who don't know better.



  • @Ragnax said:

    It comes in very handy when dealing with ID3 tags in foreign languages....

    I would like to assume that people here do at least know what Unicode is ;-)



  • @error_NoError said:

    TRWTF is he actually chose those colors
     

    Win8 by default chooses your Aero colours based on the average (mode? median?) of your desktop background. It's nifty. Well, as long as you use a photo, I think.

    The yellow is a funky overlay colour I chose around the punched-out shapes that highlight the tabs and thumbs. It is explicitly funky.


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