Guess what I bought today!?



  • Here's a hint:

    Seriously do I have some kind of coating on my fingers where when I touch an electronics device it starts giving out inexplicable errors? Because that happens to me a lot.



  • It seems the error is caused by you restarting. Or fixed by-- Try rebooting twice. That'll make it TWICE as rebooted. Or something.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Seriously do I have some kind of coating on my fingers where when I touch an electronics device it starts giving out inexplicable errors? Because that happens to me a lot.
    Bad karma.

     



  •  Does NP stands for "No Problem"?



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Seriously do I have some kind of coating on my fingers where when I touch an electronics device it starts giving out inexplicable errors? Because that happens to me a lot.
     

    No, that's not the case at all. What is happening that a lot of us posters here are taking it in turns to break into your electronic devices and FUBAR them. It's in the terms & conditions of this site that we do so. Didn't anyone tell you?

     



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Seriously do I have some kind of coating on my fingers where when I touch an electronics device it starts giving out inexplicable errors? Because that happens to me a lot.

    It's probably your magnetic personality. Your personality is so strong that the magnetic fields flip bits.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    a hint:

    The image file name is vita_error.jpg so I guess a ps vita, is it any good?
    @blakeyrat said:
    Seriously do I have some kind of coating on my fingers where when I touch an electronics device it starts giving out inexplicable errors? Because that happens to me a lot.

    I knew somebody with the same issue, most of the time it got fixed by me entering the room as I have the opposite aura


  • BINNED

    @blakeyrat said:

    Seriously do I have some kind of coating on my fingers where when I touch an electronics device it starts giving out inexplicable errors? Because that happens to me a lot.

    I have similar problems with network configuration.

    So now I just set everything up properly and then call someone to click the ok button, press enter, whatever. If I do it not only it won't work properly, I won't even be able to ping the router anymore.



  •  When did Microsoft make a portable xBox?


  • SockDev

    @blakeyrat said:

    Here's a hint:

    Seriously do I have some kind of coating on my fingers where when I touch an electronics device it starts giving out inexplicable errors? Because that happens to me a lot.

    No - it's just Sony have no idea how to work an online store. Really, half the time on PS3, the store just craps out for no reason. Also, on some screens half the items are missing.

    PSN programmers = one million monkeys hitting random keys.

    Never had anything like these issues with XBL. *hides after praising MS*

     



  • Apparently the first one guessing, but is that the sony playstation android phone thing?



  • @Lorne Kates said:

     When did Microsoft make a portable xBox?

    I WISH!

    No it's a Vita. As to how I feel about it: I've owned it less than 24 hours, and I haven't used it for its primary purpose yet (playing video games during my long bus ride) so I'll know later today! I have Lumines and Rayman on it.



  • @RaceProUK said:

    No - it's just Sony have no idea how to work an online store. Really, half the time on PS3, the store just craps out for no reason. Also, on some screens half the items are missing.

    That error popped up every single time it tried to load a preview icon, so a single game page would pop up that error about 7-8 times. It was a lovely experience.

    Edit: When a PS Vita says "the LiveArea screen has been refreshed" in my notifications... what the holy shit does that mean, and what am I supposed to do about it?



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @Lorne Kates said:

     When did Microsoft make a portable xBox?

    I WISH!

    No it's a Vita. As to how I feel about it: I've owned it less than 24 hours, and I haven't used it for its primary purpose yet (playing video games during my long bus ride) so I'll know later today! I have Lumines and Rayman on it.

    Please let us know how well the gaming works. I've been interested in this thing for a while but haven't found a brick&mortar store that has one in store to test/play with. I'm not so sure about the (sponsored) tech blog reviews



  • @blakeyrat said:

    playing video games during my long bus ride
     

    Read a book!

    Guaranteed high-res, several generations of battery time, and no errors!



  • @dhromed said:

    Read a book!

    I've been doing nothing but reading books for like 2 years.

    @dhromed said:

    Guaranteed high-res, several generations of battery time, and no errors!

    Look, I like my Kindle, but "generations" of battery time? You're exaggerating. You get two weeks, max.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    I've been doing nothing but reading books for like 2 years.
     

    I don't read books anymore either. I don't have any good ones anymore.

    @blakeyrat said:

    Look, I like my Kindle, but "generations" of battery time? You're exaggerating. You get two weeks, max.
     

    I burn the paper from my books to drive a steam turbine that beams the energy right into my reader device.



  • @dhromed said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    I've been doing nothing but reading books for like 2 years.
     

    I don't read books anymore either. I don't have any good ones anymore.

    Well. You've certainly proven you don't read.



  • @Ben L. said:

    @dhromed said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    I've been doing nothing but reading books for like 2 years.
     

    I don't read books anymore either. I don't have any good ones anymore.

    Well. You've certainly proven you don't read.
    I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure dhromed was agreeing with blackeyrats implication that he no longer reads (he's been reading for 2 years, so he's sick of it), which explains why he bought the vita.

    I think your comprehension skills need some polishing.



  • I finally found a portable gaming device that I like. It's the 4th generation black-and-white Kindle. Way more fun than the iPad and my Windows Phone combined. And the games remind me of an old GameBoy. And my eyes don't burn after a few minutes. And I can go longer than 45 minutes without needing to charge it.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    When a PS Vita says "the LiveArea screen has been refreshed" in my notifications... what the holy shit does that mean, and what am I supposed to do about it?
     

    That definitely sounds like:

    Your mouse has been moved.
    [Abort] [Retry] [Cancel]



  • @topspin said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    When a PS Vita says "the LiveArea screen has been refreshed" in my notifications... what the holy shit does that mean, and what am I supposed to do about it?
     

    That definitely sounds like:

    Your mouse has been moved.
    [Abort] [Retry] [Cancel]

    That's too specific. It should be more like:

    An input device sent a signal.
    [Yes] [No] [Cancel]


  • @tchize said:

     Does NP stands for "No Problem"?

    I assumed "Nano-Probe".

     



  • @da Doctah said:

    @tchize said:

     Does NP stands for "No Problem"?

    I assumed "Nano-Probe".
     

    Ah, yes, that's for people with overly tight asses. You start with a nano-probe, then work your way up to a micro probe, a mini probe, then a regular probe.

    After that, you shoot for a macro probe.

     



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    kiloprobe
     

    Death by a thousand probes.



  • @serguey123 said:

    The image file name is vita_error.jpg so I guess a ps vita, is it any good?

    He's had it a day and is already posting error messages. What do you think?



  • @timbstoke said:

    He's had it a day and is already posting error messages. What do you think?

    I think he is blakeyrat, bitching is what he does best



  • @serguey123 said:

    @timbstoke said:
    He's had it a day and is already posting error messages. What do you think?

    I think he is blakeyrat, bitching is what he does best
     

    My bitchiness wasn't included in my initial release. It's available as free DLC.



  • @timbstoke said:

    @serguey123 said:
    The image file name is vita_error.jpg so I guess a ps vita, is it any good?

    He's had it a day and is already posting error messages. What do you think?

    It's a Japanese electronics device. To wit:

    1) The UX/UI design is 5+ years out-of-date, poorly thought-out, clunky and (as seen above) buggy. It's like they copied the iOS interface without bothering to find out why Apple made any of the decisions they made. The fact that, when the inevitable error does happen, they neglected to bother writing a friendly error message for it, or giving the user a way to resolve it, says a lot about Sony's skill at making UIs. It actually feels like they took a decades-old camcorder UI and just patched in enough stuff to make it kind of resemble a 2012 touchscreen UI, if you squint.

    2) The industrial design is also 5+ years out-of-date. It's 2012, this device was designed in 2012, why the hell are there visible screws? Why are the barcodes and FCC info plaque on the outside? Nobody wants to see the barcode! And yet despite that, it still has all the drawbacks of Apple-like industrial design, for example, no replaceable battery. (And let me tell you, my HTC phone which looks brilliant and has no visible screws still has a replaceable battery!)

    3) It's packed with an insane number of features, many of which are hard to use, many of which are pointless to use, and the majority of which nobody will ever use because they don't fit the typical usage of the device. For example, the "alternate reality" camera and games-- what good is a game where you need a flat, stable, well-lit surface on a portable gaming machine? Similarly, what's the point of the orientation sensor? I'm not going to be riding the bus and wanting to spaz this thing left and right like a steering wheel, looking like a moron. What's the point of the rear touchpad? So far only one (pack-in) game has used it for anything at all, and it was obvious they just contrived that use (it would have worked as well being the front touch-screen, or the L button for that matter.)

    That all said, none of that matters when you're in a game and playing, so it's good at doing what it's designed to do.



  • Oh. Probably goes without saying, but since it is a Sony device it uses proprietary memory card formats and a proprietary USB cable plug. The former I'll be generous and assume they have performance-related reasons for it... the latter? In-fucking-excusable! Especially since the STANDARD USB plug for this type of device is FAR SMALLER than the one Sony designed.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    since it is a Sony device
     

    One thing I am curious about:  given Sony's extremely overall shittiness as far as security, customer relations, hardware compatability, etc, etc... in addition to all the very valid issues you're experiencing out of the box... why did you decided to buy a Vita over one of the Nintendo handhelds?


  • SockDev

    @blakeyrat said:

    Oh. Probably goes without saying, but since it is a Sony device it uses proprietary memory card formats and a proprietary USB cable plug. The former I'll be generous and assume they have performance-related reasons for it... the latter? In-fucking-excusable! Especially since the STANDARD USB plug for this type of device is FAR SMALLER than the one Sony designed.

    It gets better - the PSP used a standard USB mini-B.

    Sony - Fucking users up the arse since the dawn of time.

    <font size="1">Disclaimer: I'm a happy (enough) owner of both a PS3 and a PSP.</font>



  •  Pf.

    I have a man's computer under my desk.



  • @dhromed said:

     Pf.

    I have a man's computer under my desk.

     

    Too easy.

     



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    since it is a Sony device
     

    One thing I am curious about:  given Sony's extremely overall shittiness as far as security, customer relations, hardware compatability, etc, etc... in addition to all the very valid issues you're experiencing out of the box... why did you decided to buy a Vita over one of the Nintendo handhelds?

     Because I'm not 8.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @Lorne Kates said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    since it is a Sony device
     

    One thing I am curious about:  given Sony's extremely overall shittiness as far as security, customer relations, hardware compatability, etc, etc... in addition to all the very valid issues you're experiencing out of the box... why did you decided to buy a Vita over one of the Nintendo handhelds?

     Because I'm not 8.

     

    So a stupid reason. Gotcha.

     

     



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    @Lorne Kates said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    since it is a Sony device
     

    One thing I am curious about:  given Sony's extremely overall shittiness as far as security, customer relations, hardware compatability, etc, etc... in addition to all the very valid issues you're experiencing out of the box... why did you decided to buy a Vita over one of the Nintendo handhelds?

     Because I'm not 8.

     

    So a stupid reason. Gotcha.

     

     

    What do you expect from someone who is less than 8 years old?



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    So a stupid reason. Gotcha.

    You get to have your reasons for doing things, and I get to have my reasons. It's great.

    Anyway if you look at the Gameboy ecosystem it's obvious it's not for me. It's obviously designed for little kids. I'm not a little kid. QED.



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    My bitchiness wasn't included in my initial release. It's available as free DLC.

    I'm not falling for your greedy marketing ploy!
    @blakeyrat said:
    I'm not a little kid.

    So it was a birthday present, congrats!



  • @blakeyrat said:

    it's obvious it's not for me

    Because you hate things that are fun?  I mean there is a fair amount of crap that gets put out for nintendo handhelds, but the stuff that is good tends to be fantastic.  The main thing that confused me on your claim is that the vita meets your qualifiers but a DS wouldn't.



  •  @serguey123 said:

    Candy won't work anymore?

    A rusted, sky-blue van rolls down the street. It's dark, cracked windows are covered with duct-tape and yellowing newspapers from another county. The panels, in another life, could have sported a delivery logo, or the authorative icon of a news channel, or perhaps a wicked sorcerror falling to the blade of The Mighty One. Instead, paint just barely holds on for life. Squint hard enough, and you can just decern the word "SONY".

    The van stops, worn pads squealing pitifully against rusty drums. The driver puts on the parking brake. It doesn't work. The cable has long since snapped. But it's a custom. It's rote.

    He reaches into the bucket, scoops a handful of hard candy, and puts it into his suit pocket. He steps out into the harsh daylight, puts a smile-that-is-a-mask on his face, and walks into the playground.



  • Hey here's a thought! Maybe I can spend my money how I want to, huh? Maybe if you buy me a game console, then you can decide which one, huh? Maybe shut the fuck up and go away, huh?



  • @Lorne Kates said:

     @serguey123 said:

    Candy won't work anymore?

    A rusted, sky-blue van rolls down the street. It's dark, cracked windows are covered with duct-tape and yellowing newspapers from another county. The panels, in another life, could have sported a delivery logo, or the authorative icon of a news channel, or perhaps a wicked sorcerror falling to the blade of The Mighty One. Instead, paint just barely holds on for life. Squint hard enough, and you can just decern the word "SONY".

    The van stops, worn pads squealing pitifully against rusty drums. The driver puts on the parking brake. It doesn't work. The cable has long since snapped. But it's a custom. It's rote.

    He reaches into the bucket, scoops a handful of hard candy, and puts it into his suit pocket. He steps out into the harsh daylight, puts a smile-that-is-a-mask on his face, and walks into the playground.

    Dad?


  • @blakeyrat said:

    Hey here's a thought! Maybe I can spend my money how I want to, huh? Maybe if you buy me a game console, then you can decide which one, huh? Maybe shut the fuck up and go away, huh?

    Sorry, I was asking about what differentiated the Vita because I wanted to know if it gave me a reason to pick one up.  I didn't mean to question your purchasing decisions (well not question in that way).



  • @locallunatic said:

    Sorry, I was asking about what differentiated the Vita because I wanted to know if it gave me a reason to pick one up.

    No you weren't. You were saying I "hate fun".

    @locallunatic said:

    I didn't mean to question your purchasing decisions (well not question in that way).

    Then why did you do it?

    I don't give a flying fuck what you meant to do, I only know what you actually did. I can't believe I had to type that.



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    A rusted, sky-blue van rolls down the street. It's dark, cracked windows are covered with duct-tape and yellowing newspapers from another county. The panels, in another life, could have sported a delivery logo, or the authorative icon of a news channel, or perhaps a wicked sorcerror falling to the blade of The Mighty One. Instead, paint just barely holds on for life. Squint hard enough, and you can just decern the word "SONY".

    The van stops, worn pads squealing pitifully against rusty drums. The driver puts on the parking brake. It doesn't work. The cable has long since snapped. But it's a custom. It's rote.

    He reaches into the bucket, scoops a handful of hard candy, and puts it into his suit pocket. He steps out into the harsh daylight, puts a smile-that-is-a-mask on his face, and walks into the playground.


    You forgot to mention the cravings, the terrible, terrible cravings



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Hey here's a thought! Maybe I can spend my money how I want to, huh? Maybe if you buy me a game console, then you can decide which one, huh? Maybe shut the fuck up and go away, huh?

    Sure, you can do that. But you also like questioning everyone else about their level of autism based on their level of fun, so I think asking about your lack of maturity with respect to what you find to be fun is a reasonable thing to do. Jeez, just drive to work like a man, already, and you wouldn't have this problem.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @RaceProUK said:
    No - it's just Sony have no idea how to work an online store. Really, half the time on PS3, the store just craps out for no reason. Also, on some screens half the items are missing.

    That error popped up every single time it tried to load a preview icon, so a single game page would pop up that error about 7-8 times. It was a lovely experience.

    I get the exact same error in the exact same situation whenever I visit the PSN store on my PS3 over a WiFi connection. Using a wired LAN connection; no problem. If I were a betting man, I'd bet that Sony is sharing the WiFi stack between Vita and PS3 and it contains some horrible, horrible memory leak related to dropped/resent packets.

    @blakeyrat said:

    Oh. Probably goes without saying, but since it is a Sony device it uses proprietary memory card formats and a proprietary USB cable plug. The former I'll be generous and assume they have performance-related reasons for it... the latter? In-fucking-excusable! Especially since the STANDARD USB plug for this type of device is FAR SMALLER than the one Sony designed.

    The non-standard form factor for the memory cards is actually just to prevent piracy. The official line, according to one of Sony's reps, is that the non-standard form factor means the cards can only be used together with a PS Vita, which in turn can only connect to and transfer files with a PC through a dedicated program written by Sony. (This being Sony, said program will probably be dripping with DRM and possibly other rootkit-like invasive anti-piracy measures as well. Also, they conveniently pass over the point that the Chinese will probably reverse engineer a USB-based card reader for the things anyway at which point everything comes down to the encryption of the data on the card, something a standard form factor card could cope with as well.)

    I'd speculate that piracy is just an argument to placate the common consumer and that something else drove the decision. Realize that a memory card is pretty much a mandatory component to get any real use out of the handheld: games can't save to the built-in memory, only to a card. Moreover, games which rely on the creation of save data at startup (e.g. a 'systemdata save') sometimes outright refuse to boot without a memory card. If I remember correctly, this category of games included one or more of the high profile lauch titles as well.

    Knowing this, look at the Vita's deceptively smart launch price, which is trying to edge as close to the 3DS's price point as possible. Then look at the price tag on those mandatory memory cards. Get it now?

    @Lorne Kates said:

    One thing I am curious about:  given Sony's extremely overall shittiness as far as security, customer relations, hardware compatability, etc, etc... in addition to all the very valid issues you're experiencing out of the box... why did you decided to buy a Vita over one of the Nintendo handhelds?

    Probably the Vita will offer games of types and in genres that appeal more to blakey. Games, after all, are its primary purpose. The service and hardware quality can be as good as you want them, if the games suck (to you) then a portable gaming device is worthless.

    Also note that shoddy security works both ways: it could also make it much easier to jailbreak the device and install customized firmware and homebrew, i.e. you can expect it to have a jailbreak and mods available sooner. If homebrew is your fancy, then Vita is probably the better choice (and will also have more horse power available than 3DS).


  • SockDev

    @Ragnax said:

    @blakeyrat said:
    @RaceProUK said:
    No - it's just Sony have no idea how to work an online store. Really, half the time on PS3, the store just craps out for no reason. Also, on some screens half the items are missing.

    That error popped up every single time it tried to load a preview icon, so a single game page would pop up that error about 7-8 times. It was a lovely experience.

    I get the exact same error in the exact same situation whenever I visit the PSN store on my PS3 over a WiFi connection. Using a wired LAN connection; no problem. If I were a betting man, I'd bet that Sony is sharing the WiFi stack between Vita and PS3 and it contains some horrible, horrible memory leak related to dropped/resent packets.

    I also think it's Sony's Wi-Fi code - my PSP has always had issues with forming reliable connections, though less so with the later firmwares.

     



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    A rusted, sky-blue van rolls down the street. ...
     

    ENTER VAN

    DISROBE

    EQUIP PURPLE DILDO


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