WTF challenge: find the driver



  • Short version: I want an updated driver:

    • device: Realtek 8192 WLAN
    • OS: Windows 7 32-bit.
    • current driver version = 2020.6.817.2011
    • netbook: Lenovo X100e
    See if you can find it off http://www.realtek.com.tw/. 


    Long version: this NIC is a buttered pile of shite with grated mouldy cheese on top, baked at gas mark 10 for several years and served on a bed of boiled beetroot. It's wank.

    Lenovo update utility has so far been unable to locate a newer driver for it, as has Windows update - but then again, both failed with a video driver that I had to manually fist into place (and an "update driver" suceeded in rolling back to an earlier one). I've had some issues with connecting to free hotspots, specifically certain chains and some routers, but since it's okay at home and work I thought it was their kit and not mine.

    I assumed wrong. Currently connected to a pub router, but the signal keeps dropping unless I hover over the system tray icon when it magically fires back up and remembers it ought to be connected to the interwebs.

    So, off I go to find a drivers, manually.

    Bottom line: buggered if I can find them easily on that site. Am I TRWTF there?



  • is TRWTF is asking tdwtf for help?

    click software check your version of the 8192 (su/se/cu) click go.

    download the driver for win7

     



  • This yields this.

    Am I missing something here?



  • @Cassidy said:

    Bottom line: buggered if I can find them easily on that site. Am I TRWTF there?

    You know, if you have to ask.....



  • @annihilatorg said:

    is TRWTF is asking tdwtf for help?

    http://www.realtek.com/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4

    click software check your version of the 8192 (su/se/cu) click go.

    download the driver for win7

     

    Fail. Good start, but.... you tried any of the links on that page?

    I asked for a link, not steps to get there. I want something I can drop into WGET.

    @Bender said:

    This yields this.

    Am I missing something here?

     

    Possibly the next step of following the link and trying to actually download it off the next page.

    Guys, I think you're missing the point.

    I want a link that I can click on and it offers to download a file, not take me to another page full of links that I need to search....



  • @Cassidy said:

    I want a link that I can click on and it offers to download a file, not take me to another page full of links that I need to search....

    Bender's link works for me. I got a .zip downloading right now.

    What the fuck is wrong with your web browser?



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @Cassidy said:
    I want a link that I can click on and it offers to download a file, not take me to another page full of links that I need to search....
    Bender's link works for me. I got a .zip downloading right now.

    What the fuck is wrong with your web browser?

    His network card doesn't work right, hence why he is trying to download new drivers.

     



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @Cassidy said:
    I want a link that I can click on and it offers to download a file, not take me to another page full of links that I need to search....

    Bender's link works for me. I got a .zip downloading right now.

    What the fuck is wrong with your web browser?

    I think I see what he's getting at. The download "hyperlinks" don't point to http://example.com/GiveMeTheFuckingFile.zip.  They point to javascript(0), which is probably lazy-programmer for:

    @Lazy Fucking Programmer said:


    javascript:window.open("http://example.com/TheActualFuckingLocation.zip")

    And lo and behold, one view source later, and indeed:

    @See? Lazy fucking programmer said:

    onlick="AddCount(847);window.open('./RedirectFTPSite.aspx?SiteID=1&DownTypeID=3&DownID=847&PFid=48&Conn=4&FTPPath=ftp%3a%2f%2f95.130.192.218%2fcn%2fwlan%2fRTL8191SU_AutoInstallPackage.zip','GetFile','status=no,location=no');"

    ...

    function AddCount(DownID)
    {
        DownloadsFileList.ServerSideAdd(DownID);
    }

     

    So they're too fucking stupid to know what target='_new' does, and too fucking lazy to track the downloads server-side.

    I'm with OP on this one. Rather than having a neat, parsable hyperlink, you have three layers of shit in a javascript sammich.

     



  • @Lazy fucking programmer said:

    FTPPath=ftp%3a%2f%2f95.130.192.218

    .>

    This calls for some "investigation". After work. And behind a few proxies. Just in case.



  • Yada yada. but it works right? Who gives a shit if they did their hyperlink "wrong"?



  • @Cassidy said:

    I want an updated driver:
    <snark> Windows? < />



  • @Cassidy said:

    Long version: this NIC is a buttered pile of shite with grated mouldy cheese on top, baked at gas mark 10 for several years and served on a bed of boiled beetroot. It's wank.

    Don't hold back, dude! Tell us how you REALLY feel!

     



  • @PJH said:

    <snark> Windows? < />
     

    Shut your beard, you!

    Works-provided netbook, so stuck with Win7.

    Have Mint bootable off SD card so may just stick to that when out in the field - don't have NIC issues with that.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @Cassidy said:
    I want a link that I can click on and it offers to download a file, not take me to another page full of links that I need to search....

    Bender's link works for me. I got a .zip downloading right now.

    What the fuck is wrong with your web browser?

    1. It's Firefucked. Given your past history and experiences with it, I think I needn't expand.

    2. Interweb speed here is wank, so I was hoping to start a download, pause it, grab a URL from FF's download manager and paste that as a "wget" in an ssh session on one of my servers (translation: use a command-line client on a remote machine to suck the file down for me for later retrieval).

    Tried the link that Lorne pasted... bounces with a 404. Tried the FTP link, gives "Login Incorrect".

    Feh.





  • @Cassidy said:

    So, off I go to find a drivers, manually.

    Bottom line: buggered if I can find them easily on that site. Am I TRWTF there?

    I haven't taken a look at the links you posted, but the day before yesterday, as it happens, a friend of mine was struggling with Ubuntu and his Realtek 8111 (I think) LAN card. Apparently, Ubuntu's Linux kernel comes shipped with the wrong module. I googled for the driver, found it easily, ran the autorun.sh script and bam, Linux network card problem fixed. My friend had tried this as well, except he'd downloaded the BSD version by mistake.

    Having said that, I have no clue off the top of my head whether or not I found it on a realtek.tw page, or if the driver was some geek's roll-your-own concoction.



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    I think I see what he's getting at. The download "hyperlinks" don't point to http://example.com/GiveMeTheFuckingFile.zip.  They point to javascript(0), which is probably lazy-programmer for:

    @Lazy Fucking Programmer said:


    javascriptwindow.open("http://example.com/TheActualFuckingLocation.zip")


    This sort of idiocy is endemic. Intel do something similar: when you try to download a driver, it takes you to a license agreement that you have to accept by clicking in the "I accept" radio button, which will then launch the download via. a bit of Javascript. You can at least find the direct link to the file fairly easily once you've clicked "I agree" though.



    Perhaps there's a law somewhere that says if you're designing a website where people can download drivers, you have to make it as difficult as possible for them to find a direct link to the file. Bonus points if you can invent your own useless "download manager".



  • @Cassidy said:

    gas mark 10

    How many rods to the hogshead is that?



  • @db2 said:

    @Cassidy said:
    gas mark 10

    How many rods to the hogshead is that?

     

    10. It's the only 1:1 conversion in this whole crazy mess. I thought you would have learned that in school. I was taught it during the first Aggregation  of Woodmark-level school. I'm not sure what you yanks call that grade, though.



  • @Cassidy said:

    Short version: I want an updated driver:

    • device: Realtek 8192 WLAN
    • OS: Windows 7 32-bit.
    • current driver version = 2020.6.817.2011
    • netbook: Lenovo X100e

    See if you can find it off http://www.realtek.com.tw/. 


    >> Downloads

    >> Type "8192" into search box

    >>  There are 9 choices, select the one you want

    >> Scroll to the bottom of page and click on the link

    >> This takes you to the actual download page where I see drivers for XP, Vista, Win 7 and you can select which country you want to download from

    >> I select one at randon  (Hong Kong) and download starts

    It's not perfect and their servers seem to be shitty,  but it took me less than 30 seconds to find a file and start downloading it.

    @Cassidy said:

    2. Interweb speed here is wank, so I was hoping to start a download, pause it, grab a URL from FF's download manager and paste that as a "wget" in an ssh session on one of my servers (translation: use a command-line client on a remote machine to suck the file down for me for later retrieval).
    Blah, blah, blah . . . . . . lots of pointless wanking that just complicates things.  Your web browser downloads files just fine.  Even Firefox.

     



  • @flabdablet said:

    wget ftp://WebUser:r3iZ6vJI@208.70.202.219/cn/wlan/RTL8192CU_AutoInstallPackage.zip
     

    That's the fellah!

    orac:/export/install/drivers/network/RealTek $ wget ftp://WebUser:r3iZ6vJI@208.70.202.219/cn/wlan/RTL8192CU_AutoInstallPackage.zip
    --17:31:06--  ftp://WebUser:*password*@208.70.202.219/cn/wlan/RTL8192CU_AutoInstallPackage.zip
               => `RTL8192CU_AutoInstallPackage.zip'
    Connecting to 208.70.202.219:21... connected.
    Logging in as WebUser ... Logged in!
    ==> SYST ... done.    ==> PWD ... done.
    ==> TYPE I ... done.  ==> CWD /cn/wlan ... done.
    ==> PASV ... done.    ==> RETR RTL8192CU_AutoInstallPackage.zip ... done.
    Length: 30,791,021 (29M) (unauthoritative)
    
     0% [                                     ] 210,976       28.90K/s    ETA 15:11
    

    Thanks! You win the internetz - your prize will be attached to this packet (once the NIC is more stable)



  • @El_Heffe said:

    >> I select one at randon  (Hong Kong) and download starts
     

    See, this is where we fork. I select one at random and get a popup page pointing to http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/ that shows me 3 "hot downloads" of:


    ALC5621 (Datasheets)
    High Definition Audio Codecs (Software)
    	<table id="clDownloadsDefault_testmytable1" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="423"><tbody><tr><td class="etxt-top10-box" align="Right" height="26" valign="Top" width="5"><img src="http://www.realtek.com.tw/image/sball.gif" height="11" width="16"></td><td class="etxt-top10-box" align="Left" height="26" valign="Top" width="418"><a href="http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&amp;PNid=23&amp;PFid=23&amp;Level=4&amp;Conn=3&amp;DownTypeID=3&amp;GetDown=false#AC">AC'97 Audio Codecs&nbsp;(Software)</a></td></tr></tbody></table><p>... but nowhere does it show me where to get the driver I wanted. I expected zome ZIP file to begin downloading, not a popup to a page telling me I can download it. Somehow.</p><p>@El_Heffe said:<blockquote>Blah, blah, blah . . . . . . lots of pointless wanking that just complicates things.&nbsp; Your web browser downloads files just fine.&nbsp; Even Firefox.</blockquote></p><p>It probably does. However, a quick speed check shows:</p><p><img src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/2021498939.png" mce_src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/2021498939.png" alt="" align="" border="" height="" hspace="" vspace="" width=""></p><p>And my connection keeps randomly dropping. So, I thought.. wouldn't it be a good idea if I could grab the link and wget it in a putty session somewhere. </p><p>.. and we're back to the start! <br></p><p>&nbsp;</p>


  • @Cassidy said:

    @PJH said:

    <snark> Windows? < />
     

    Shut your beard, you!

    Works-provided netbook, so stuck with Win7.

    Stuck?  I have a work provided notebook, so I am stuck with Win XP.



  • @Cassidy said:

    See, this is where we fork. I select one at random and get a popup page pointing to http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/ that shows me 3 "hot downloads" of:


    ALC5621 (Datasheets)
    High Definition Audio Codecs (Software)
    	<table id="clDownloadsDefault_testmytable1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td class="etxt-top10-box" align="Right"><img src="http://www.realtek.com.tw/image/sball.gif" height="11" width="16" alt=""></td><td class="etxt-top10-box" align="Left"><a href="http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&amp;PNid=23&amp;PFid=23&amp;Level=4&amp;Conn=3&amp;DownTypeID=3&amp;GetDown=false#AC">AC'97 Audio Codecs&nbsp;(Software)</a></td></tr></tbody></table><p>... but nowhere does it show me where to get the driver I wanted. I expected zome ZIP file to begin downloading, not a popup to a page telling me I can download it. Somehow.</p><p></p></blockquote>
    

    The Realtek website does this sometimes, and I have no idea why. You either try another server or come back later.

    There are reasons why I'm willing to pay more to avoid Realtek devices (both LAN, Wifi and audio), and these are just some of them.



  • I hear you, Cassidy. Obfuscated URLs make my life difficult in a similar way.

    Sometimes I just want to stream some enormous compressed file from HTTP to my app on a server somewhere. For instance:

    wget -O- $URL | gunzip | myapp

    You know, arcane wizardry and such. Because I don't really feel like Firefoxing the file, copying it over my shoddy connection twice, having it take up all kinds of disk space, and delaying starting the app, for no reason.

    </hijack status=sorry>


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