Diablo 3 launch



  • @boomzilla said:

    3rd world hellhole totalitarian nightmare
     

    So, USA?



  • @boomzilla said:

    It's not terribly uncommon for people to just take a day or an afternoon off more or less spur of the moment.
     

    If you're an asshole, sure.

    AH: "Hey coworkers, I feel like taking this afternoon off. Later!"

    CW: "What?"



  • @dhromed said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    So you actually do have a limit to your sick days, then. And rather than being up-front about how many you are entitled to, your work prefers to keep it a secret because most people will take fewer if they don't belong to them.
     

    ...no?

    Yes. Many offices are moving to "take what you want" schedules for holidays and PTO; the claim is that this gives the workers more flexibility. But a hidden benefit for the company (and downside for the employee) is that the psychology of taking holidays and sick days changes: a person is more likely to use something that is his own than something he has to "take" from the company.

    Think of it this way: would you rather have a $20,000 tech budget for your department or instead have a boss who says "If you need something, just come ask me and I'll get it for you"? With a budget, you can plan your expenditures; with the "ask the boss" method, you're at the whim of your boss. The latter will make you more cautious about making requests as you're never sure when he'll say "No" or when you'll go over the budget figure he has in his mind (because there's always a line, somewhere) and not be able to buy anything else.

    Consider the other side, too: a boss is likely to let me take my own vacation time, even if he doesn't want me to go. However, if it's not really my time, then it's easier for him to throw up roadblocks. I'm not making this stuff up, this is a well-documented phenomenon. I know because I've worked a few places where they tried this stunt and the other employees were all like "Ohh, all the vacation time we want, this sounds great" until I convinced them that they'd be losing out in the long run.

    Edit: Oh yeah, forgot a few other things. Flexible time off tends to exploit your hardest-working employees, because they're the ones least likely to take vacation days they haven't earned. And they're also the most likely to suffer burnout from working too hard.

    In many US jurisdictions, you are compensated for unused vacation time. By not giving employees an allotment of vacation days, the employer doesn't have to pay you for unused days. All-in-all, it's a big benefit to the company to go for flex vacation. The only benefit to the employee is that they feel more empowered, even though they are getting less (and that also benefits the company because it increases morale). But if you have to manipulate your employees into feeling empowered, then something is seriously wrong anyway.



  • @dhromed said:

    @boomzilla said:

    It's not terribly uncommon for people to just take a day or an afternoon off more or less spur of the moment.
     

    If you're an asshole, sure.

    AH: "Hey coworkers, I feel like taking this afternoon off. Later!"

    CW: "What?"

    Eh, there are plenty of places I've worked where people had enough independent work that if somebody wanted to take an afternoon off, or have a long lunch with a few beers, or whatever, nobody would care. In spite of what some Euroweenies think, American companies aren't generally run like slave labor camps.



  • @db2 said:

    @lettucemode said:
    In case you don't know about Diablo 3, its prequels basically invented the action-RPG genre.

    It's a good thing games like Hydlide and Ys weren't created over ten years prior, otherwise that statement might not be true.

     

    Not to mention Nethack, which Diablo was a shameless ripoff of.  I generally enjoy Blizzard's work, but when I saw Diablo I was just like "umm?  This is nothing but Nethack with graphics."  And I never really got into it since then.



  • @Mason Wheeler said:

    I generally enjoy Blizzard's work, but when I saw Diablo I was just like "umm?  This is nothing but Nethack with graphics."  And I never really got into it since then.

    Because God knows that adding graphics to a game is hardly an improvement over ASCII art.



  • @Mason Wheeler said:

    This is nothing but Nethack with graphics.
     

    Pf, you can extend that argument indefinitely and end up with a nihilistic conception of an "essential" RPG where you have a set of numbers slowly growing larger. That is to say, that link has ground it almost to nothing.

    In other words, you don't have a point there.

    But you do have a (very good) point when you say that the claim "Diablo invented the action-RPG" is bullshit, because everything comes from something that came before.



  • @dhromed said:

    a nihilistic conception of an "essential" RPG

    Nice try. That is nothing but my 7th grade math homework with color pixels.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @Mason Wheeler said:
    I generally enjoy Blizzard's work, but when I saw Diablo I was just like "umm?  This is nothing but Nethack with graphics."  And I never really got into it since then.

    Because God knows that adding graphics to a game is hardly an improvement over ASCII art.

    But that wasn't what people cared about.  Admittedly, it's been a while, but I don't remember people saying "oh, Diablo has such awesome graphics!"  No, what they raved about was the game itself--a series of procedurally generated underground dungeons that led the adventurer on a quest into Hell itself.  That was what everyone thought was so cool, and it was lifted 100% from Nethack.  (Except Nethack called it Gehennom.  And at the end, you got to leave the dungeon and fight your way through higher planes, which you couldn't do in Diablo.)



  • @dhromed said:

    @boomzilla said:
    It's not terribly uncommon for people to just take a day or an afternoon off more or less spur of the moment.

    If you're an asshole, sure.

    AH: "Hey coworkers, I feel like taking this afternoon off. Later!"

    CW: "What?"

    Obviously, if there was something important scheduled, or a looming deadline, this might be the reaction. But we don't all work the same hours to begin with. Sometimes it's just going to the doctor or the dentist. Or taking your kids. A lot of it is just time shifting. If it's really interfering with getting your work done, or making trouble for others who depend on you for something, then, yeah, it's an issue. But in general, stuff is pretty flexible.

    Also, you don't have the fake sick days that come with sick leave, which is what people would have done with their sick days.

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @boomzilla said:
    It's not terribly uncommon for people to just take a day or an afternoon off more or less spur of the moment.

    Well why don't you just move to France with the rest of the Marxists!?

    I don't believe in burning cars. And I do believe in antiperspirant/deodorant. I could probably get used to eating horse, though.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @lettucemode said:

    I was considering taking a sick day off work to play, but after seeing the aftermath I'm glad I didn't. Was anyone else excited for the release?

    About a quarter of my group went farther than sick days - they scheduled vacations for the remainder of this week.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Well why don't you just move to France with the rest of the Marxists!?

    Because I am strongly opposed to the French in almost every way and feeling that they are good for nothing but surrender, making for the most part horrible things and speaking French?



  • @dhromed said:

    Pf, you can extend that argument indefinitely and end up with a nihilistic conception of an "essential" RPG where you have a set of numbers slowly growing larger. That is to say, that link has ground it almost to nothing.
     

    Almost?

    Then you, my friend, have never experiences [url="http://progressquest.com/"]Progress Quest[/url]

    You're welcome.



  • This thread just reminded me to put in my leave application for being off sick on Monday. So I guess that's good.



  • @Weng said:

    @lettucemode said:

    I was considering taking a sick day off work to play, but after seeing the aftermath I'm glad I didn't. Was anyone else excited for the release?
    About a quarter of my group went farther than sick days - they scheduled vacations for the remainder of this week.

    For Diablo 3? Seriously? Diablo games are boring as shit.

    Please tell me they secretly planned a camping trip or something.



  • @Mason Wheeler said:

    I generally enjoy Blizzard's work, but when I saw Diablo I was just like "umm?  This is nothing but Nethack with graphics."

    Except, y'know, that Nethack is turn-based, while Diablo is an action game. Hence the "action-RPG" moniker.

     



  • @Zylon said:

    @Mason Wheeler said:

    I generally enjoy Blizzard's work, but when I saw Diablo I was just like "umm?  This is nothing but Nethack with graphics."

    Except, y'know, that Nethack is turn-based, while Diablo is an action game. Hence the "action-RPG" moniker.

    But Diablo is played on a computer. And Nethack? Also played on a computer. It's clearly just a rip-off.



  • @Douglasac said:

    Because I am strongly opposed to the French in almost every way and feeling that they are good for nothing but surrender, making for the most part horrible things and speaking French?

    They're pretty good at engineering, though; at least, some of them are, or were. Case in point: André Chapelon. He engineered Europe's most powerful steam locomotive. Unfortunately, he did this just after the war, when the big shots at the French national railways decided that electric traction was the way forward. However, his 242A1 (only one was ever (re)built) was so powerful and efficient, that they were forced to up the specs of their planned top model electric locomotive, adding a whopping 1000hp.

    To give you an idea: when compared to the Union Pacific "Big Boy", generally considered to be the most awesome steam locomotive ever built because it's so ridiculously large, heavy and powerful, it had about 80% of its power at less than half its weight.

    As for leave days, we get 24 in this country, and my employer adds another 3 because I've been with them for over 10 years. Sick leave apparently has some sort of limit, which they don't tell you. But if you report sick, the company doctor comes to visit, or you need to bring a medical certificate (by law). Looks like there's been some abuse of the system in the past, but if a family member happens to be a doctor, well, so much the better.

    And then there are the public and national holidays. Most countries have a national holiday, such as the 4th of July in the USA, or the 14th of July in France. Malta has FIVE. The reason for this is political, and rather pathetic. Still, I'm not complaining. Heck, until a few years ago, you would actually get extra leave days for public and national holidays that fell in the weekend.



  • @Severity One said:

    But if you report sick, the company doctor comes to visit...

    O_o

    @Severity One said:

    Most countries have a national holiday, such as the 4th of July in the USA, or the 14th of July in France. Malta has FIVE.

    Arguably, Memorial Day, Labor Day, Independence Day (July 4) and Veteran's Day are all national holidays in the US.

    @Severity One said:

    Heck, until a few years ago, you would actually get extra leave days for public and national holidays that fell in the weekend.

    Almost everywhere I've worked has given the following Monday off if a holiday falls on the weekend.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @dhromed said:

    @Mason Wheeler said:

    This is nothing but Nethack with graphics.
     

    Pf, you can extend that argument indefinitely and end up with a nihilistic conception of an "essential" RPG where you have a set of numbers slowly growing larger. That is to say, that link has ground it almost to nothing.

    I dunno - it still seems as if you actually have to do something in that one. Have you come across Progress Quest? Edit: Bugger - seems Lorne beat me to it.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @Severity One said:
    Most countries have a national holiday, such as the 4th of July in the USA, or the 14th of July in France. Malta has FIVE.

    Arguably, Memorial Day, Labor Day, Independence Day (July 4) and Veteran's Day are all national holidays in the US.

    Well, we have Victory Day (celebrating the victory over both the Turks in 1565 and the fascists in WW2), Sette Giugno (7th June, commemorating four people that got killed by the British during riots in 1919), Independence Day (when the country became independent, with the British monarch as the head of state), Republic Day (when Lizzy was sent packing) and Freedom Day (when the last British troops left).

    But then there's New Year's Day, Saint Paul's Shipwreck, Saint Joseph, Good Friday, Worker's Day (1st May), Saint Peter & Saint Paul, Assumption of Our Lady, Immaculate Conception, and last but not least, Christmas Day.

    @morbiuswilters said:

    @Severity One said:
    Heck, until a few years ago, you would actually get extra leave days for public and national holidays that fell in the weekend.

    Almost everywhere I've worked has given the following Monday off if a holiday falls on the weekend.

    By law?



  • @Anketam said:

    I have learned never to get hyped up over a game just because its prequals were good.  Just because a game follows in the series of good games does not increase its chances of being a good game, only its chances of being a more expensive game.  There is also something about the third game in the series, if the first and second games both rock in your opinion, the third one will likely suck to you (and the bigger the gap between 2 & 3 the greater the potential suckness).

     

    I wouldn't say that. Might & Magic's best release was 7; and they ruined it all when they switched to a non-sprite engine in 9 :-/

     



  • @Severity One said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    @Severity One said:
    Heck, until a few years ago, you would actually get extra leave days for public and national holidays that fell in the weekend.

    Almost everywhere I've worked has given the following Monday off if a holiday falls on the weekend.

    By law?

    Sort of. There are 10 Federal Holidays. When one of them falls on the weekend, then the work holiday will usually be defined as the following Monday (though sometimes the preceding Friday is given). Most firms follow this schedule. Of course, it's not mandatory, and stuff like retail is often open.

    Part time workers generally don't get paid holidays (though it's not terribly uncommon for them to get overtime rates or better for holiday work). Full time workers at businesses who need people working each day (e.g., retail, restaurants, etc) typically allow workers to shift the holidays they work to other days off.

    But fortunately, we haven't gone full on nanny state, so this isn't mandated by law. At least, not federally, and not in any state that I'm familiar with.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @blakeyrat said:

    @Weng said:

    @lettucemode said:

    I was considering taking a sick day off work to play, but after seeing the aftermath I'm glad I didn't. Was anyone else excited for the release?
    About a quarter of my group went farther than sick days - they scheduled vacations for the remainder of this week.

    For Diablo 3? Seriously? Diablo games are boring as shit.

    Please tell me they secretly planned a camping trip or something.

    Nope. Diablo 3.

    We had a big network outage awhile back and some serious attempts to play Diablo 2 were made.

    I don't get it, either. Terrible taste in games. I've gotta hand it to Blizzard, though - they've got their minions so well trained that they can just say "This is the most anticipated game ever" and some people will make like they've been anticipating it the whole time.



  • @Severity One said:

    They're pretty good at engineering, though

    I will give you that... the government bought eight trams from Spain that are of French origin, and they're better than the Canadian ones in pretty much every way. That said, they're not good for much else though.



  • @Douglasac said:

    @Severity One said:
    They're pretty good at engineering, though
    I will give you that... the government bought eight trams from Spain that are of French origin, and they're better than the Canadian ones in pretty much every way. That said, they're not good for much else though.

    They also named a car company, "Lemon," so I guess it's a real crap shoot.



  • @lettucemode said:

    In case you don't know about Diablo 3, its prequels basically invented the action-RPG genre.

    Hahaha, under which stone have you been living? Sorry to burst your bubble, but hundreds of action-RPG games were released before Diablo (released in 1996). Just some examples: Crystalis (1990), Legend of Zelda (1987), Ys (1988), and friggin Atari 2600's Adventure (1979).

    Besides, Diablo is actually what we call a Rogue-like, which is a genre that spanned from the concept of a 80's computer game called Rogue.



  • @PJH said:

    I dunno - it still seems as if you actually have to do something in that one.
     

    That's why I said "almost".

     I'm currently... running... Progress Quest.



  • @Weng said:

    I don't get it, either. Terrible taste in games.
     

    I asked some players what was special about Diablo III, and the reply was that  yes, it has everything you've seen before, but it does it all better.

    That's a valid argument.



  • Blizzard really is TRWTF here.

    Blizzard have never, and I mean never, had a successful launch of a multiplayer game. Despite the billions that WoW makes, every new expansion is plagued with issues like this, and all their other releases in the last 10 years or so have been the same.

    The problem is this - the amount of hardware you need to sustain the game servers under 'normal' load is much less than what you need on launch day. D3 had 2 million pre-orders alone, the actual number of day 1 sales are expected to be about 5 million. A month from now, a quarter of those will still be playing, 2 months, a tenth of them.

    And that hardware is EXPENSIVE, the folks running the servers are faced with the problem that if they put in the hardware to cope with launch, 2 months later most of it is going to be gathering dust.

    Most companies work something out, they either rent the servers, or they 'borrow' from other games they run where they can trim some hardware off temporarily, or they buy hardware that they can redeploy to other uses when the launch spike is over.

    But Blizzard, they seem to just go 'Well, this is what we think is needed to run it once the spike is over, so we'll put it in at that level and have a shitty launch. By the point they discover they can't log in and play we already have their cash so what does it matter?'



  • @Zadkiel said:

    Blizzard really is TRWTF here.

    But Blizzard, they seem to just go 'Well, this is what we think is needed to run it once the spike is over, so we'll put it in at that level and have a shitty launch. By the point they discover they can't log in and play we already have their cash so what does it matter?'

    Hmm. Well this is totally anecdotal, but all the gamers I know think that Blizzard walks on water. EA, on the other hand, seems to be universally despised.



  • @rstinejr said:

    Hmm. Well this is totally anecdotal, but all the gamers I know think that Blizzard walks on water. EA, on the other hand, seems to be universally despised.

    EA is the worst. Blizzard's parent company Activision is the second-worst. Blizzard is the most over-rated company I know. Diablo games are boring. Warcraft III stunk, and the only thing that kept anybody playing was a non-Blizzard mod. Diablo III, a brand new game, looks like shit. Development of their games takes like 3 years longer than it should, so they always release with ancient out-of-date engines.

    In addition to having over-rated games, Blizzard pulls shit like... oh gee, what's happening now: requiring online presence for playing a single-player game of Diablo III. Or requiring that you associate your real name with your WOW account. And God knows they wouldn't put a game on Steam, Steam is actually convenient.



  • @rstinejr said:

    all the gamers I know think that Blizzard walks on water

    Not only that, they can even create a time bubble

    @rstinejr said:

    . EA, on the other hand, seems to be universally despised.

    Yeah, I personally blame them for ME 2



  • @lettucemode said:

    You can play solo if you want to, but you still have to connect to their servers to do so. So the servers are overloaded with login requests and almost no one can get in. Nice work, Blizzard.


    I will never, EVER buy a game that does this. Know why? A few months ago, I was reading a story on Freelancer, one of my favorite old games. Reading the article about how Freelancer 2 died in dev, and the subsequent reminiscing about coming home from school when I was a kid and hitting the multiplayer with friends got me nostalgic. So, I went down to the basement, dug up my boxes and found my copy. Popped it in, installed a patch someone made to make it play nice with Windows 7, and boom. Nostalgic gameplay from the 90's.

    Think 5 years down the road. Will Blizzard have maintained those servers? Probably. Another 5 years. Doubtful. Another 5 years: I'd be amazed if they were still running. And say you get nostalgic for Diablo III, boot it up, and woops! We can't verify your copy.



  • @rstinejr said:

    @Zadkiel said:

    Blizzard really is TRWTF here.

    But Blizzard, they seem to just go 'Well, this is what we think is needed to run it once the spike is over, so we'll put it in at that level and have a shitty launch. By the point they discover they can't log in and play we already have their cash so what does it matter?'

    Hmm. Well this is totally anecdotal, but all the gamers I know think that Blizzard walks on water. EA, on the other hand, seems to be universally despised.

    Not saying they're angels, but most of the "scandals" from EA are nothing more than entitled nerds whining about X, Y, or Z. Take the Day One DLC fiasco with Mass Effect 3 where zomg, you had to pay more for content already on the disc!

    • Initially, the From Ashes DLC was ONLY for people who pre-ordered Collectors or Limited editions. It was later added in the shop as a buyable DLC for $5 (cheaper than Limited).
    • Yes it was on the disc, because people who aren't retarded wouldn't print different versions of the game disc for the different releases.


  • @Master Chief said:

    Not saying they're angels, but most of the "scandals" from EA are nothing more than entitled nerds whining about X, Y, or Z. Take the Day One DLC fiasco with Mass Effect 3 where zomg, you had to pay more for content already on the disc!

  • Initially, the From Ashes DLC was ONLY for people who pre-ordered Collectors or Limited editions. It was later added in the shop as a buyable DLC for $5 (cheaper than Limited).
  • Yes it was on the disc, because people who aren't retarded wouldn't print different versions of the game disc for the different releases.
  • I agree that that "controversy" was stupid.

    The reason I (somewhat) boycott EA is due to their signing an exclusive license with the NFL, back when Sega was starting to kick their ass at football games, because paying the NFL to shut-out Sega was cheaper than actually *gasp* improving Madden to not suck. (That said, Madden has improved a lot now, but it was still a dick move at the time.)

    I have to admit, I still buy DICE games (Battlefield series), but I at least feel guilty about it.



  • So I'm thinking of buying Diablo III, because the mage as this awesome icy deathray, and I have a raging boner for bright ray weapons.

    Weirdly enough, I watched several videos of the first few areas as played by different classes and they all felt like the character was overpowered except the mage.



  • @serguey123 said:

    @rstinejr said:
    all the gamers I know think that Blizzard walks on water

    Not only that, they can even create a time bubble

    Hmm...



  • @pkmnfrk said:

    @serguey123 said:
    @rstinejr said:
    all the gamers I know think that Blizzard walks on water

    Not only that, they can even create a time bubble

    Hmm...

    That list reminds me of how awesome the Half-Life demo was. It was its own self-contained little story line and was beautifully executed, with attention to detail that would be impressive in a retail game, let alone a demo. I played it all the way through several times as I was saving up the cash to buy the real game.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    That list reminds me of how awesome the Half-Life demo was. It was its own self-contained little story line and was beautifully executed, with attention to detail that would be impressive in a retail game, let alone a demo. I played it all the way through several times as I was saving up the cash to buy the real game.

    You played a demo several times because you needed to save cash to buy a video game... For now on I think I'll call you Tiny Tim.

    I guess this occurred before you started your immensely successful career in IT, but come on, what kind of work were you doing? Selling matches in Copenhagen?



  • @dhromed said:

    So I'm thinking of buying Diablo III, because the mage as this awesome icy deathray, and I have a raging boner for bright ray weapons.

    Here, knock yourself out.

     



  • @Speakerphone Dude said:

    You played a demo several times because you needed to save cash to buy a video game... For now on I think I'll call you Tiny Tim.

    I guess this occurred before you started your immensely successful career in IT, but come on, what kind of work were you doing? Selling matches in Copenhagen?

    I was fourteen when it came out, you fucking retard.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @Speakerphone Dude said:

    You played a demo several times because you needed to save cash to buy a video game... For now on I think I'll call you Tiny Tim.

    I guess this occurred before you started your immensely successful career in IT, but come on, what kind of work were you doing? Selling matches in Copenhagen?

    I was fourteen when it came out, you fucking retard.

    Interesting. When I was fourteen, I was saving up for a motocross, not for a 50$ video game. Of course at that age I was working part time (I had two newspaper runs and I was spending my summers doing yard work); in your case maybe it took a long time to get 50$ because you had to save the 5$ weekly stipend your parents were giving you for cleaning your room and taking out the garbage on Wednesdays.

    If you were 14 when Half-Life came out (98?) it means you are now around 28. This surprises me because most people figure out in the early 20s at the latest that a foul language is not the proper way to communicate. Maybe this is something you could discuss with your mom when you go drop your dirty laundry (or should I say: when you come up from the basement to give her your dirty laundry - unless she picks it directly from your room?).

    See, this is how you tell someone how childish they are. No need for dirty words.



  • Wow your a condescending asshole, ain't you?



  • @Douglasac said:

    @Severity One said:
    They're pretty good at engineering, though
    I will give you that... the government bought eight trams from Spain that are of French origin, and they're better than the Canadian ones in pretty much every way. That said, they're not good for much else though.

    Canadian = Bombardier? Those guys have bought about half of the train manufacturers in Europe.

    TRWTF when it comes to rolling stock is AnsaldoBreda. Suffice to say is that they're Italian, and apart from the fact that their products have more issues than an anorexic LGBT with post-traumatic stress disorder, they are ugly. Can you imagine that? An Italian designing something that does not look good?

    Not to stray too far from the subject matter: I want Episode 3. No, I demand it. The bastards were even teasing us about it in Portal 2.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Wow your a condescending asshole, ain't you?

    It depends. I've been reading this forum for a while before taking the time to create an account, and I've noticed that there are two kinds of people that use strong language: the brutally honest and the immature. I can't stand immature people. They remind me of the young king in Game of Thrones; entitled, nasty, pissy, insecure, with no valid claim to greatness. The exact same people that, when you talk with them, you know they don't listen, they think about what they will reply. It makes me even less patient when it is obvious that they have average skills and they make fun of people with less than average skills, like wannabe bullies.

    I know I should ignore them, it's my own jihad inner struggle...





  • @Severity One said:

    Canadian = Bombardier? Those guys have bought about half of the train manufacturers in Europe.

    Indeedy doo. Considering they're Canadians, I expect better than what they made... the seats feel like upholstered wood, they're uglier than the French things and they're louder than the French trams. They're also supplying the new trains, so it will be interesting to see what they're like.



  • @Speakerphone Dude said:

    I can't stand immature people. They remind me of the young king in Game of Thrones
     

    You-- ah-- do know that show is what use grownups call "fiction", right? Or are you delusional?

    @Speakerphone Dude said:

    I know I should ignore them, it's my own jihad inner struggle...

    Ah, there's my answer.

     



  • @blakeyrat said:

    I agree that that "controversy" was stupid.

    The reason I (somewhat) boycott EA is due to their signing an exclusive license with the NFL, back when Sega was starting to kick their ass at football games, because paying the NFL to shut-out Sega was cheaper than actually *gasp* improving Madden to not suck. (That said, Madden has improved a lot now, but it was still a dick move at the time.)

    I have to admit, I still buy DICE games (Battlefield series), but I at least feel guilty about it.

    I buy EA games because if I don't, there are plenty of other people who will anyway. Boycotts don't work because your average person is either completely unaware, or completely apathetic (like me).

    Also, buying games I like slightly skews the trends toward my tastes, meaning publishers will be more likely to make more games I like.


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