Copy write issue with term of employment




  • I have question on copy write issue.

    Here is one situation:
    I write code to create text file for Bank-A
    Project is over, but I have stored that code in my personal library.

    New project is for bank-B.
    I have to write same code exactly with same functional requirement.
    So I copy code from my personal library and use it.

    Is this stealing of code?


    I already sign client confidence agreement. Now what?



  • @Nagesh said:

    Is this stealing of code?

    In my country: yes both legally and morally, in yours: morally yes, legally dunno

    @Nagesh said:

    I already sign client confidence agreement. Now what?

    You signed a contract to deliver something without legal problems, so rewrite it.



  • If you rename the variables ("mytextfile1"  to "mytextfiles2", or "i" to "j"), then you are putting more confidence into the codes.

    So, it is a good. Not the steal.



  • Ask your boss. It depends on the wording of the contracts, but probably it is not allowed.

    Rewriting the code while looking at the previous copy for reference may be allowed, though. As long as you avoid copy&paste.



  • A confidentiality agreement isn't necessarily the same thing as ownership of IP developed during the course of the contract. It definitely depends on the contract, and is probably worth getting a lawyer to look at it.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Ask your boss. It depends on the wording of the contracts, but probably it is not allowed.

    Rewriting the code while looking at the previous copy for reference may be allowed, though. As long as you avoid copy&paste.

    The boss is project manager. Do you think he really care? He want to ship out first thing day before yesterday. So what if routine is copied pasted. This sun-oracle-java-google court case is make me think that many of us do same thing so many time.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Nagesh said:

    The boss is project manager. Do you think he really care? He want to ship out first thing day before yesterday.
    Wrong boss. Try asking the boss from where the code was originally written, not the one you're working for now.



  • Whoever allowed you to take the code home?

    You know someone did that at Goldman Sachs and got sent to jail when he turned up at his new job which offered very high pay with the code on his system, ready to install it.

    Of course, if you simply "remember how you did something" then reproduce it at the new job, that is nothing but using your experience, although this is only the case if what you are installing is something relatively generic e.g. implementing a data-feed nd not a complex pricing model that is intended to remain confidential.

     


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Cbuttius said:

    Whoever allowed you to take the code home?
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  • Firstly the issue is copyright, not copy write.

    Secondly, in the case of Sergey Aleynikov, he was cleared of theft on appeal and released from jail. The court ruled that whilst it may have breached a confidentiality agreement, it was not theft as such:

     

     



  • @Cbuttius said:

    Firstly the issue is copyright, not copy write.

    Secondly, in the case of Sergey Aleynikov, he was cleared of theft on appeal and released from jail. The court ruled that whilst it may have breached a confidentiality agreement, it was not theft as such:

    @PJH said:


  • @Cbuttius said:

    Whoever allowed you to take the code home?

    You know someone did that at Goldman Sachs and got sent to jail when he turned up at his new job which offered very high pay with the code on his system, ready to install it.

    Of course, if you simply "remember how you did something" then reproduce it at the new job, that is nothing but using your experience, although this is only the case if what you are installing is something relatively generic e.g. implementing a data-feed nd not a complex pricing model that is intended to remain confidential.

     

    Code stay on employee unix folder and in various intranet forums where I ask doubt and it get answered. So all I do is search the forums first then my unix folder.



  • @Cbuttius said:

    Firstly the issue is copyright, not copy write.

    Secondly, in the case of Sergey Aleynikov, he was cleared of theft on appeal and released from jail. The court ruled that whilst it may have breached a confidentiality agreement, it was not theft as such:

     

     

    Copy write sound so correct to me and also no spell check error. So if you write something why do you call it right?
    Are you all English native speakers crazy?



  • @Nagesh said:

    So if you write something why do you call it right?
     

    It's not about writing. It's about the right to copy.

    @Nagesh said:

    Are you all English native speakers crazy?

    There's this book called "The Mother Tongue" by Bill Bryson, which documents the rise and development of English. It's a very good read.

    The answer to your question is yes!

     



  • @dhromed said:

    @Nagesh said:

    So if you write something why do you call it right?
     

    It's not about writing. It's about the right to copy.

    @Nagesh said:

    Are you all English native speakers crazy?

    There's this book called "The Mother Tongue" by Bill Bryson, which documents the rise and development of English. It's a very good read.

    The answer to your question is yes!

     

    That explain lot of things!



  • This is australia:

     

    The weather is horrible there, too.

    I'm sure a lot of India looks similar, right?



  • @dhromed said:

    This is australia:

    I'm sure a lot of India looks similar, right?

    They’re pretty close together and both have lots of kangaroos.


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