A very stupid survey question



  • So... what if nobody in my family works for any of those types of companies? I have to click "Other" and type in a type of company that someone does work for???



  • Does anybody you know have a job at any company doing anything? Or are you from Liverpool?



  •  You should choose Other, and then enter Yes.



  •  Yes.



  •  You should choose Other and enter Contract Killer.



  • @upsidedowncreature said:

    Does anybody you know have a job at any company doing anything? Or are you from Liverpool?

    People from Liverpool are so burned right now!



  • @dhromed said:

     You should choose Other, and then enter Yes.


    Wrong. You should choose Other, and then enter No.



  • You should choose Other, and then enter '; DROP TABLE survey_responses; --



  • You should choose Other, and then enter "I work for a company that can't write decent survey questions"



  • You should select all the options, since they're checkboxes and not radiobuttons, and enter N/A in the "Other" field.



  • You should choose "Other" then leave it blank. Keep 'em guessing.

    You should choose "Other" then paste in one of the above lines as an apparently omitted occupation.

    You should choose "Other" then paste some of Ender's weird-shit tags into it and watch the DB hurl.

    You should choose "Other" then put in "Other" and see if it divides by zero.

    You should choose "Other" then lie with "I work for google" and see if they fall over themselves to network.



  • You should choose other and then enter the whole canadian lumberjack song if .the textbox has no size limit.

    Oh, I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok! I sleep all night and I work all day!



  • @Renan said:

    You should choose other and then enter the whole canadian lumberjack song if .the textbox has no size limit.

    Oh, I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok! I sleep all night and I work all day!

    No size limit fields are so much fun.


  • @Renan said:

    You should choose other and then enter the whole canadian lumberjack song if .the textbox has no size limit.

    Oh, I'm a lumberjack and I'm ok! I sleep all night and I work all day!

     

    Technically, he wasn't a Canadian lumberjack. He was backed by mounties and cut trees in Canada, but there's no evidence to suggest the lumberjack himself was Canadian.

    To put it another way: He wasn't Canadian. He was a lumberjack, but not a Canadian.

    And to continue along the joke ruining streak, in the OP... if you answered "Yes" to any of those questions, you'd be disqualified from the survey.  It's a fairly standard question, but I love the doublespeak way they've presented it. "Some people have valuable opinions base don their industry. Are you one of these, good citizen? Because if so, fuck off."

     



  • Select other and put in "Online Fornication Image Evaluator"



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    @Renan said:

    You should choose other and then enter the whole canadian lumberjack song

     

    Technically, he wasn't a Canadian lumberjack. He was backed by mounties and cut trees in Canada, but there's no evidence to suggest the lumberjack himself was Canadian.

    True enough, but I read the post above as saying that the song is Canadian (Canadian [lumberjack song] vs [Canadian lumberjack] song). So you are being overly pedantic. Plus Lorne is a suspiciously Canadian-sounding name.

     



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    It's a fairly standard question, but I love the doublespeak way they've presented it.
     

    Oh, so "can bring unique insight into our research" actually means "can pierce our bullshit" or "can bias our results in ways we don't like"...?

    That's so spin, it's.. completely hatstand.



  • @Cassidy said:

    You should choose "Other" then leave it blank. Keep 'em guessing.

    You should choose "Other" then paste in one of the above lines as an apparently omitted occupation.

    You should choose "Other" then paste some of Ender's weird-shit tags into it and watch the DB hurl.

    You should choose "Other" then put in "Other" and see if it divides by zero.

    You should choose "Other" then lie with "I work for google" and see if they fall over themselves to network.

    You should close the window. Then close this window, because seriously Cassidy's reply is like humor-cancer. Then go for a long lunch and rethink your life. Think, "during my life, have I watched enough Godzilla flicks?" The answer is no, man. No.



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    And to continue along the joke ruining streak, in the OP... if you answered "Yes" to any of those questions, you'd be disqualified from the survey.  It's a fairly standard question, but I love the doublespeak way they've presented it. "Some people have valuable opinions base don their industry. Are you one of these, good citizen? Because if so, fuck off."

    This is how Wikipedia works. It's the online encyclopedia written by people who are expressly unqualified to write about the topics they write about, because anyone who's actually qualified to write about anything is barred from doing so, in order to appease the Neutrality Gods.



  • @ekolis said:

    This is how Wikipedia works. It's the online encyclopedia written by people who are expressly unqualified to write about the topics they write about, because anyone who's actually qualified to write about anything is barred from doing so, in order to appease the Neutrality Gods.

    And yet it's the finest reference on lightsabres and over-vs.-under toilet paper hanging known to man. Proving, once and for all, that real encyclopedias are useless, unless you want to know about things that actual people might care about.

    Seriously, though, I know several people who are still in college and Wikipedia is considered an extremely trustworthy reference by most professors.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @ekolis said:
    This is how Wikipedia works. It's the online encyclopedia written by people who are expressly unqualified to write about the topics they write about, because anyone who's actually qualified to write about anything is barred from doing so, in order to appease the Neutrality Gods.

    And yet it's the finest reference on lightsabres and over-vs.-under toilet paper hanging known to man. Proving, once and for all, that real encyclopedias are useless, unless you want to know about things that actual people might care about.

    Seriously, though, I know several people who are still in college and Wikipedia is considered an extremely trustworthy reference by most professors.

    So I searched for it and found the over vs. under wiki. And from there I got this gem:

    @wiki said:

    On the first day of Burns' introductory course in sociology, he asks his students, "Which way do you think a roll of toilet paper should hang?"[5] In the following fifty minutes, the students examine why they picked their answers (...) They make connections to larger themes of sociology, including gender roles, the public and private spheres, race and ethnicity, social class, and age."

    Seriously? People are really using ethnicity and social class to define how they position their toilet paper rolls?



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Seriously, though, I know several people who are still in college and Wikipedia is considered an extremely trustworthy reference by most professors.
    Yea I wish they would tell that to some of my professors.  Even after providing articles that show Wikipedia is only slightly less accurate* than Britannica but overwhelms Britannica with information and is far more current, they still do not view it as a reasonable source for information.  They recommend that I use the college's library and its search tools to search journals for information for research papers.  These professors fail to realize that for technology related fields that journals become quickly outdated and tend to be several years behind what is currently going on.  Google & Wikipedia on the other hand have proven to be more useful than journals.

     * If you factor the length of the articles into the accuracy then Wikipedia becomes more accurate.



  • @barfoo said:

    So you are being overly pedantic.
     

    You... you do know what site you're on? Right?

    @barfoo said:

    Plus Lorne is a suspiciously Canadian-sounding name.

     You found me out. Good thing I wasn't trying to hide that fact in my location. Or profile. Or posts.

    I did, however, to put "I am Canadian" in very tiny font inside my <sarcasm> tags. (They're hidden for your safety)

     



  • @Renan said:

    @wiki said:
    On the first day of Burns' introductory course in sociology, he asks his students, "Which way do you think a roll of toilet paper should hang?"[5] In the following fifty minutes, the students examine why they picked their answers (...) They make connections to larger themes of sociology, including gender roles, the public and private spheres, race and ethnicity, social class, and age."

    Seriously? People are really using ethnicity and social class to define how they position their toilet paper rolls?

    A very succinct demonstration of the bankruptcy of postmodernism.



  • @boomzilla said:

    @Renan said:
    @wiki said:
    On the first day of Burns' introductory course in sociology, he asks his students, "Which way do you think a roll of toilet paper should hang?"[5] In the following fifty minutes, the students examine why they picked their answers (...) They make connections to larger themes of sociology, including gender roles, the public and private spheres, race and ethnicity, social class, and age."

    Seriously? People are really using ethnicity and social class to define how they position their toilet paper rolls?

    A very succinct demonstration of the bankruptcy of postmodernism.

    Also a very succinct demonstration of the bankruptcy of higher education. To think: these cocksuckers get paid for this shit, mostly from our tax dollars. We need to close down 90% of our universities, fire 90% of our teaching staff. Most people in college should not be there; they are just wasting resources and destroying their ability to accomplish anything useful in life.



  • @Renan said:

    Seriously? People are really using ethnicity and social class to define how they position their toilet paper rolls?
    I agree. It totally ignores those sections of society that don't actually use toilet paper.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @boomzilla said:
    @Renan said:
    @wiki said:
    On the first day of Burns' introductory course in sociology, he asks his students, "Which way do you think a roll of toilet paper should hang?"[5] In the following fifty minutes, the students examine why they picked their answers (...) They make connections to larger themes of sociology, including gender roles, the public and private spheres, race and ethnicity, social class, and age."

    Seriously? People are really using ethnicity and social class to define how they position their toilet paper rolls?

    A very succinct demonstration of the bankruptcy of postmodernism.
    Also a very succinct demonstration of the bankruptcy of higher education. To think: these cocksuckers get paid for this shit, mostly from our tax dollars. We need to close down 90% of our universities, fire 90% of our teaching staff. Most people in college should not be there; they are just wasting resources and destroying their ability to accomplish anything useful in life.
    I would put the estimate closer to 80% but still, just look at how many people graduate with psychology degrees.  Then there is the quality issue with degrees.  Based off of job openings I have seen Master Degrees in my field are only worth 2-3 years of experience.  It is common to see 5 years of experience with BS or 2 years of experience with MS on job reqs, that tells you what little value business assign them.  I personally learned more about programming on the job than in the class room.  Heck at my university when I graduated (which was about 4 years ago) you could get a BS in CS without taking a single database class (I took one as an elective because I knew I would be using them in the real world).


  • @Anketam said:

    It is common to see 5 years of experience with BS or 2 years of experience with MS on job reqs, that tells you what little value business assign them.  I personally learned more about programming on the job than in the class room.  Heck at my university when I graduated (which was about 4 years ago) you could get a BS in CS without taking a single database class (I took one as an elective because I knew I would be using them in the real world).

    And just consider: this is with a science/engineering degree, which in theory isn't utterly worthless. It's not like you stole $200k from taxpayers to fund 6 years of Gender Studies or Marxist Horticulture. I love binge drinking, anonymous casual sex and making bongs out of flashlights as much as the next person, but I earn my own money to do it.



  •  @morbiuswilters said:

    It's not like you stole $200k from taxpayers to fund 6 years of Gender Studies or Marxist Horticulture.

    This. And the worst part is, if you say that out loud, you get a shocked look: "Do you actually believe some degrees are more useful than others? We work just as hard for our African languages degree as an engineering student! Everyone is different, and some people are just good at other things than you." Yeah, sure, I'm good at playing video games, does that mean I get five years of tax-payer funded gaming? Obviously engineering is more useful than African languages. I don't get why that is still controversial.



  • @briverymouse said:

    does that mean I get five years of tax-payer funded gaming?

    You do

    Quoated from this place: www.oberlin.edu

    "Super Smash Brothers Melee Theory and Practice 0-1 Credit
    Brian Mazur, Mike Blejer and Quentin Jones EXCO-845
    This course will teach students the basic, intermediate and advanced combat techniques in the video game Super Smash Brothers Melee for the Nintendo Gamecube. This course will also provide in depth lectures and discussions involving many controversial issues concerning video games in our society today such as censorship, stereotyped characters, addiction, and gaming as an evolving art form. Gamecubes, televisions and controllers will be provided by the instructors. Gamers and non-gamers are welcome and encouraged to take this course. Classes will meet for two and a half hours each week-one and a half hours during regularly scheduled discussion and class time, and one hour outside regular class time as a practicum to practice and refine skills."

    Isn't life grand?



  • @Anketam said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    Seriously, though, I know several people who are still in college and Wikipedia is considered an extremely trustworthy reference by most professors.
    Yea I wish they would tell that to some of my professors.  Even after providing articles that show Wikipedia is only slightly less accurate* than Britannica but overwhelms Britannica with information and is far more current, they still do not view it as a reasonable source for information.  They recommend that I use the college's library and its search tools to search journals for information for research papers.  These professors fail to realize that for technology related fields that journals become quickly outdated and tend to be several years behind what is currently going on.  Google & Wikipedia on the other hand have proven to be more useful than journals.

     * If you factor the length of the articles into the accuracy then Wikipedia becomes more accurate.

    Why the hell would length be a factor in accuracy?



  • @pkmnfrk said:

    @Anketam said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    Seriously, though, I know several people who are still in college and Wikipedia is considered an extremely trustworthy reference by most professors.
    Yea I wish they would tell that to some of my professors.  Even after providing articles that show Wikipedia is only slightly less accurate* than Britannica but overwhelms Britannica with information and is far more current, they still do not view it as a reasonable source for information.  They recommend that I use the college's library and its search tools to search journals for information for research papers.  These professors fail to realize that for technology related fields that journals become quickly outdated and tend to be several years behind what is currently going on.  Google & Wikipedia on the other hand have proven to be more useful than journals.

     * If you factor the length of the articles into the accuracy then Wikipedia becomes more accurate.

    Why the hell would length be a factor in accuracy?

    I think he means errors-per-article vs. errors-per-character. TOW (NSFW) has more errors-per-article than Britannica, but it also has longer articles so it has fewer errors-per-character. I guess being more verbose is a good way to appear less inaccurate than you really are. Of course, the real metrics would be: errors-per-concept and magnitude of errors, but apparently nobody wants to talk about those. Also there's the problem that Wikipedia can change out from underneath you, which makes it kind of a bitch for citations.

    This is irrelevant to me, though. As an American the only encyclopedia I need is the Bible. Errors-per-character: 0.



  • @Anketam said:

    It is common to see 5 years of experience with BS or 2 years of experience with MS on job reqs, that tells you what little value business assign them.

    Consider that in the US, it is illegal to give IQ tests to job applicants. College degrees serve as weak proxies. As with any other sort of education, the person getting educated is a more important factor in the value of the education than the educator.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    This is irrelevant to me, though. As an American the only encyclopedia I need is the Bible. Errors-per-character: 0.

    Good point, although it's lacking on quite a few subjects (in particular recent events).



  • @boomzilla said:

    Consider that in the US, it is illegal to give IQ tests to job applicants.

    I've taken IQ tests during the interview phase, they just called them something like "puzzle tests" or "bilateral thinking exams". I'm not sure that's actually legal, but I'm happy to report my IQ score was 86 (I assume out of 100). That's a solid B.



  • @Sutherlands said:

    @morbiuswilters said:

    This is irrelevant to me, though. As an American the only encyclopedia I need is the Bible. Errors-per-character: 0.

    Good point, although it's lacking on quite a few subjects (in particular recent events).

    That's because you're not reading it right.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Of course, the real metrics would be: errors-per-concept and magnitude of errors, but apparently nobody wants to talk about those.

    Oh, and omitted information. If you leave things out it doesn't count as being wrong, now does it?



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @boomzilla said:
    Consider that in the US, it is illegal to give IQ tests to job applicants.

    I've taken IQ tests during the interview phase, they just called them something like "puzzle tests" or "bilateral thinking exams". I'm not sure that's actually legal, but I'm happy to report my IQ score was 86 (I assume out of 100). That's a solid B.

    Technically, it's only tests that have disparate impact on racial minorities. The lesson? It's OK to call black people stupid if you're the Supreme Court.



  • @boomzilla said:

    It's OK to call black people stupid if you're the Supreme Court.

    You're also permitted one felony per-year. Unused felony credits rollover at the end of the year, up to a total of 27 accumulated felony credits. By the time he retired, Souter had enough credits to get away with genocide or the killing of a single animal on the endangered species list, had he wanted to. Unfortunately, the felony credits must be surrendered to the court upon retirement or death, along with the black robe and the unchecked authority to rule people's lives.



  • @boomzilla said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    @boomzilla said:
    Consider that in the US, it is illegal to give IQ tests to job applicants.

    I've taken IQ tests during the interview phase, they just called them something like "puzzle tests" or "bilateral thinking exams". I'm not sure that's actually legal, but I'm happy to report my IQ score was 86 (I assume out of 100). That's a solid B.

    Technically, it's only tests that have disparate impact on racial minorities. The lesson? It's OK to call black people stupid if you're the Supreme Court.

     

    There's a blatant untruth above.  Consider that the Wonderlic Cognitive Ability Test is given to everyone who wants to work for the NFL; you hear about it mostly in connection with football players who score in the "barely mammals" range, but in fact it's given even if you're applying to work in an NFL office job.

    It's also given as one of two tests for MENSA applicants.  Pass either test (the Wonderlic or the conventional one) and you're qualified to join.  If that doesn't make it an IQ test, I don't know what does.



  • @da Doctah said:

    @boomzilla said:

    Technically, it's only tests that have disparate impact on racial minorities. The lesson? It's OK to call black people stupid if you're the Supreme Court.

    There's a blatant untruth above.  Consider that the Wonderlic Cognitive Ability Test is given to everyone who wants to work for the NFL; you hear about it mostly in connection with football players who score in the "barely mammals" range, but in fact it's given even if you're applying to work in an NFL office job.

    It's also given as one of two tests for MENSA applicants.  Pass either test (the Wonderlic or the conventional one) and you're qualified to join.  If that doesn't make it an IQ test, I don't know what does.

    So...your theory is that there are too few blacks in the NFL because the test discriminates against them? Or that membership to MENSA is a job?



  •  My "theory" is that the NFL gives an IQ test to job applicants.  You conveniently snipped the "above" where the untruth was.



  • 1. Right-click

    1. "Inspect element"
    2. Set value to lumberjack song
    3. Enjoy

    ... or better yet, write a user script that fills every text field with its own verse. That's what user scripts are for, after all.



  • @da Doctah said:

    My "theory" is that the NFL gives an IQ test to job applicants.  You conveniently snipped the "above" where the untruth was.

    I don't get it. I said that IQ tests for employment were illegal, citing the case law, and then clarified to say that it's actually just tests that show disparate impact (a retarded legal term of art). Which part of all that was the untruth? Maybe you thought that the Supreme Court can't get away with saying black people are stupid? I guess we'll never know, because you've neglected to let us in on the Secret of the Untruth.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    I'm not sure that's actually legal, but I'm happy to report my IQ score was 86 (I assume out of 100). That's a solid B.
     

    That explains so much.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    As an American the only encyclopedia I need is the Bible. Errors-per-character: 0.
     

    +1



  • @briverymouse said:

    Obviously engineering is more useful than African languages. I don't get why that is still controversial.
     

    How are you going to engineer things in Africa if you don't speak any of its languages?



  • @dhromed said:

    @briverymouse said:
    Obviously engineering is more useful than African languages. I don't get why that is still controversial.

    How are you going to engineer things in Africa if you don't speak any of its languages?

    One possibility:
    @morbiuswilters said:

    My philosophy is thus: USD are like English, shove enough of 'em at the foreign mud people and they'll eventually do what you want.



  • @dhromed said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    As an American the only encyclopedia I need is the Bible. Errors-per-character: 0.
     +1

     Oh rly?

    "Wicked Bible", "Adulterous Bible" or "Sinner's Bible" 1631: Barker and Lucas: Omits an important "not" from Exodus 20:14, making the seventh commandment read "Thou shalt commit adultery." The printers were fined £300 and most of the copies were recalled immediately. Only 11 copies are known to exist today.

     If you want more errors that have occured in the Bible:



  • @Anketam said:

    @dhromed said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    As an American the only encyclopedia I need is the Bible. Errors-per-character: 0.
     +1

     Oh rly?

    "Wicked Bible", "Adulterous Bible" or "Sinner's Bible" 1631: Barker and Lucas: Omits an important "not" from Exodus 20:14, making the seventh commandment read "Thou shalt commit adultery." The printers were fined £300 and most of the copies were recalled immediately. Only 11 copies are known to exist today.

     If you want more errors that have occured in the Bible:

    I can't tell you people how much I enjoy being on a site where people don't get even the simplest of jokes.


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