Mighty disappears!



  • Just had a strange experience. "Project Manager" wearing a QA hat was testing a website made by me. You simply login then click a link to view a series of videos and simple activities. There is a button called "exit" that would return the user to the selector screen, for choosing another "course".

    His problem was it would randomly return to the selector screen. I had just made some changes to code that could have possibly maybe caused that issue, so I did some checks, but came up blank.

    Then he joked "maybe it's this mouse!" He unplugged it and used the laptop's trackpad. No random jumps. Plug the mouse back in, give it a light touch, bam, returned to the selector screen.

    It was an Apple Mighty Mouse plugged into a Windows XP machine which apparently means it will continually send the "back" command to the PC. (We did test on other websites: same result) This wasn't this user's usual computer but we had to test it on XP.



  • So the WTF is the Apple mighty mouse not confirming to the USB HID standard?



  • Reminds me of one of my mouses where the scroll button could be pushed right or left as a click, these by default triggered forward and back commands in an Internet browser.  So when I 'clicked' the scroll button to open link in new tab, it would sometimes go back to the previous page because I pressed it at a slight angle.  I figured it out after a few days, luckily I no longer have that mouse.



  • It drives me crazy how everyone gets those 43,213-button* mice these days. They always have that thumb button that's mapped to the "Back" function in web browsers. The problem is the button is always where I grip the mouse, I actually squeeze with my thumb in that spot so I have to change my grip to not do that and that's not comfortable. Whenever I buy a new mouse it always seems like a lot of work to find a standard two-button with scroll wheel that isn't a $3 piece of crap.

    *Warning for pedantic dickweeds, this is an exaggeration for comedic effect.



  • That's not a mouse, it's a keyboard!

    20 button mouse



  • @mott555 said:

    I grip the mouse

    If you're gripping anything on the mouse, you're doing it wrong.

    @mott555 said:

    *Warning for pedantic dickweeds, this is an exaggeration for comedic effect.

    Maybe, but you're still doing it wrong.



  • @Anketam said:

    Reminds me of one of my mouses where the scroll button could be pushed right or left as a click, these by default triggered forward and back commands in an Internet browser.

    I see your mouse, and raise you a presenter:

    This is quite a nifty little tool; the USB dongle slips into the underside not only to keep it all together but to kill the power so it won't drain batteries.

    However, the laser pointer also doubles as an F5 keypress; this means it starts any PowerPoint presentations, but starts them from slide 1 rather than continuing from where it left off.

    It also means if you use it as a pointing tool to illustrate features of a web page, the browser does a "reload". And if highlighting something in Excel, it pops up a "go" prompt. "Useful" suggestions to combat this behaviour revolve around remapping F5 to do nothing, rather than preventing the laser from sending F5.

    Needless to say, I didn't buy one in the end. Got one of these:

    .. which was actually dirt cheap, came in a nice case, and the laser button does simply that: shine a laser, separate from a side rocker that does Start/Blank. I expected it to fail after a few months, but several years later it's still going strong.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @mott555 said:

    Whenever I buy a new mouse it always seems like a lot of work to find a standard two-button with scroll wheel that isn't a $3 piece of crap.
    To my absolute horror, I was going to make the following snarky comment: "Microsoft Wheel Mouse Optical. Black. These will survive the apocalypse. $nn"

     When I was looking up the value of nn, I discovered that they no longer make The One True Mouse. Now mine MUST survive the apocalypse, because I have no other option.



  • @Weng said:

    I discovered that they no longer make The One True Mouse.
     

    Surely the one true mouse is this one?

    Note the bumpers alongisde the buttons. The weight is perfect. The bumpers make it Better Than Everything Else.



  • Speaking of weird mice, one day I noticed that my cursor was EXTREMELY sensitive to mouse movement - even more so than my already sensitive preferred settings. (I can cover my entire screen in the space of about three inches of mouse movement!) So I thought, "Oh, someone must have fiddled with the sensitivity settings in Control Panel!" But when I checked there, and lowered the sensitivity, it didn't feel right either - it was too sluggish! And there was no happy medium! Finally I noticed a little blue light glowing on the top of my mouse... hmm, never noticed THAT before! Oh, that little blue light is a BUTTON? Hmm, wonder what happens if I press it? So I press the little blue light button, and lo and behold, my mouse is back to normal! All I can figure is since I bought my PC from Newegg and it was a brand apparently designed for gamers, that the little blue light button on the mouse must have been some sort of "hypermode" toggle...



  • My RAT5, which is the best mouse ever, has 4 DPS settings you can change with a little rocker switch on its face. I keep it on 2 most of the time, but for gaming turning it up can be handy. Unless you forget you turned it up, then get into a copter and nose it into the ground.



  • My work mouse is a ms gaming mouse which has selectable sensitivity (which I never change intentionally). Someone defaced it with a label "go easy on me, I have no balls". Hehe, especially since there hadn't been a ball mouse in the office for years. My home mouse is the original ms explorer optical intellimouse (c 2000). It has survived the toddler apocalypse thus far, he's already destroyed a different mouse, a keyboard and several sets of headphones.

    Now I think about it, that mighty mouse was originally mine at work and it would often bring up exposé on my iMac, until I went into system preferences and turned it off!



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Unless you forget you turned it up, then get into a copter and nose it into the ground.
     

    ah, rats!



  • @dhromed said:

    @Weng said:

    I discovered that they no longer make The One True Mouse.
     

    Surely the one true mouse is this one?

    Note the bumpers alongisde the buttons. The weight is perfect. The bumpers make it Better Than Everything Else.

     

    I had a mouse like that one, slightly different colors, lasted about 10 years or so. It then started clicking randomly when it shouldn't, and occasionally missed a click it should have gotten. Once it began to cause me to lose games i had to retire it.

    Incidentally i know some wow players who would kill for a few extra mouse buttons.

    Also who bothers to buy a mouse these days, don't you all have access to giant boxes of legacy equipment to pilfer from.

     



  • @esoterik said:

    lasted about 10 years or so.
     

    P good I guess.

    My current one at home is exactly the model pictured above, and it'sbene operational for at least 7 years. My work mouse is a black version of indeterminate age.

    I hope for the best.

    Maybe get a RAT.



  • @esoterik said:

    Also who bothers to buy a mouse these days, don't you all have access to giant boxes of legacy equipment to pilfer from.

    Because I'd rather spend the money on a decent, new mouse rather than steal legacy crap?



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @esoterik said:
    Also who bothers to buy a mouse these days, don't you all have access to giant boxes of legacy equipment to pilfer from.

    Because I'd rather spend the money on a decent, new mouse rather than steal legacy crap?

     

    Wait a minute, wait a minute, hold the phone here. SO! Given the opportunity to steal stuff you would rather buy something in stead?



  • There's a reason why those giant boxes of legacy crap are still full....



  • @Cassidy said:

    There's a reason why those giant boxes of legacy crap are still full....
    Ashame legacy stuff is not like that nicely broken in couch or matress that is old but it is just so comfortable.  The problem with legacy junk is that most of it still works, and people/companies cannot bring themselves to throw away functional equipment.  My parents had such a hard time coming around to throwing away one of their older large CRT TVs when they replaced it with a nice LCD, since the old TV still worked.  They ended up keeping it for 2 or 3 years before finally throwing it away.



  • @Zemm said:

    My home mouse is the original ms explorer optical intellimouse (c 2000). It has survived the toddler apocalypse thus far, he's already destroyed a different mouse, a keyboard and several sets of headphones.
     

    Oh hell yes. Before I got that mouse, I'd gone through so many ball-mice. And since I got it, I've blown through so many inferior "almost works" optic mice at various workplaces.

    That mouse is good enough that, for a while, any time I would slip into a Microsoft bash, I would have to append "... but at least they make really good hardware."



  • @erikal said:

    Given the opportunity to steal stuff you would rather buy something in stead?
    Well, he'd probably buy it at Best Buy or something...



  • @erikal said:

    Wait a minute, wait a minute, hold the phone here. SO! Given the opportunity to steal stuff you would rather buy something in stead?

    In a contest between stealing crap or buying quality, I'm going to buy quality. Of course, if I can steal quality then I'm definitely going to do that..



  • @Anketam said:

    @Cassidy said:

    There's a reason why those giant boxes of legacy crap are still full....
    Ashame legacy stuff is not like that nicely broken in couch or matress that is old but it is just so comfortable.  The problem with legacy junk is that most of it still works, and people/companies cannot bring themselves to throw away functional equipment.  My parents had such a hard time coming around to throwing away one of their older large CRT TVs when they replaced it with a nice LCD, since the old TV still worked.  They ended up keeping it for 2 or 3 years before finally throwing it away.

     

    I once scored a dozen or so ten-foot RS232 cables when my employer decided to convert what had been a storage room to office cubicles and basically let everyone in the place have their pick of the old tech.  Also a huge stack of empty 3-ring binders that I handed out to relatives for scrapbooking.  Friend of mine got a microfiche reader.

    I don't know how widespread this is, but Goodwill here has such a glut of old television sets you can buy any set for one dollar.  Mind you, you'll probably need to add a $40 digital converter because the old sets are NTSC.  And you'll need to clear a lot of space because CRTs are as deep as they are wide.

     



  • @da Doctah said:

    @Anketam said:

    @Cassidy said:

    There's a reason why those giant boxes of legacy crap are still full....
    Ashame legacy stuff is not like that nicely broken in couch or matress that is old but it is just so comfortable.  The problem with legacy junk is that most of it still works, and people/companies cannot bring themselves to throw away functional equipment.  My parents had such a hard time coming around to throwing away one of their older large CRT TVs when they replaced it with a nice LCD, since the old TV still worked.  They ended up keeping it for 2 or 3 years before finally throwing it away.

     

    I once scored a dozen or so ten-foot RS232 cables when my employer decided to convert what had been a storage room to office cubicles and basically let everyone in the place have their pick of the old tech.  Also a huge stack of empty 3-ring binders that I handed out to relatives for scrapbooking.  Friend of mine got a microfiche reader.

    I don't know how widespread this is, but Goodwill here has such a glut of old television sets you can buy any set for one dollar.  Mind you, you'll probably need to add a $40 digital converter because the old sets are NTSC.  And you'll need to clear a lot of space because CRTs are as deep as they are wide.

    Also, bring a moving dolly because those beasts weigh half a metric ass-ton, or was it an imperial butt-load...



  • @da Doctah said:

    I once scored a dozen or so ten-foot RS232 cables when my employer decided to convert what had been a storage room to office cubicles and basically let everyone in the place have their pick of the old tech.  Also a huge stack of empty 3-ring binders that I handed out to relatives for scrapbooking.  Friend of mine got a microfiche reader.

    Wow, RS232 cables, 3-ring binders and a microfiche reader.. sounds like you really hit the jackpot.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @da Doctah said:
    I once scored a dozen or so ten-foot RS232 cables when my employer decided to convert what had been a storage room to office cubicles and basically let everyone in the place have their pick of the old tech.  Also a huge stack of empty 3-ring binders that I handed out to relatives for scrapbooking.  Friend of mine got a microfiche reader.
    Wow, RS232 cables, 3-ring binders and a microfiche reader.. sounds like you really hit the jackpot.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Wow, RS232 cables, 3-ring binders and a microfiche reader.. sounds like you really hit the jackpot.
     

    Well now, I'd almost say you were sarcastic.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @da Doctah said:
    I once scored a dozen or so ten-foot RS232 cables when my employer decided to convert what had been a storage room to office cubicles and basically let everyone in the place have their pick of the old tech.  Also a huge stack of empty 3-ring binders that I handed out to relatives for scrapbooking.  Friend of mine got a microfiche reader.

    Wow, RS232 cables, 3-ring binders and a microfiche reader.. sounds like you really hit the jackpot.

     

    Larf if you like, but:

    • cables - okay, so I only needed one, but it was instrumental in archiving all the stuff from my old Apple //c.
    • binders - as stated, they found good homes with people who had use for them.
    • microfiche reader - also as stated, this was someone else's score.  I think he planned on selling it on eBay.



  • @da Doctah said:

  • cables - okay, so I only needed one, but it was instrumental in archiving all the stuff from my old Apple //c.
  • I didn't realize we were talking about 25 years ago. But then again, that proves my point: you're bragging about getting a few cables two decades ago.


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