Are they serious?



  •  http://www.yeehawww.com/websitedesign.htm

     

    Finaly I can get a website that lets me relive 15 years of internet history.....



  • @Sitethief said:

     http://www.yeehawww.com/websitedesign.htm

     

    Finaly I can get a website that lets me relive 15 years of internet history.....

     

    I love the rotating Jesus fish thing at the bottom. Why am I not surprised?

     



  •  I live not too far from Crown King.  My guess is that they are serious.



  • They have some contact information on their site, but where's their ICQ number?



  •  You know, I have mixed feelings about sites like this. They're like 80s tv series; impossible to watch today, but you still get a pang of nostalgia when you catch a glimpse of them.



  • @Sitethief said:

     http://www.yeehawww.com/websitedesign.htm

     

     

    @http://www.yeehawww.com/index.html said:

    <font size="2" face="Arial">-- THIS WEBSITE HAS SOUND. 
    TURN UP YOUR SPEAKERS TO ENJOY IT --</font>
     

    I turned my speakers up but got nothing in Firefox 7.0.1.  Tried again in IE 7 and got the music but can't say I particularly enjoyed it.

    Looking at the page source I found this...

    <bgsound src="images/SAINTSGOMARCHIN.MID" loop="-1">

    I've not used this tag before because I know how much people like sounds playing in the background on websites.  Looking on W3.org for this tag it gives...

    HTML Reference

    The <bgsound> element is a non-standard element.

    HTML5 classifies it as a non-conforming feature.

    Examples

    No, really. Don't use it.

     

     

     

    <bgsound mce_tsrc="http://www.yeehawww.com/images/SAINTSGOMARCHIN.MID" mce_src="http://www.yeehawww.com/images/SAINTSGOMARCHIN.MID" loop="-1">


  • @RTapeLoadingError said:

    Looking at the page source I found this...

    <bgsound src="images/SAINTSGOMARCHIN.MID" loop="-1">

    Haha, really? Because the actual background music, if it can be so called, is "Polly Wolly Doodle".


  • @Sitethief said:

     http://www.yeehawww.com/websitedesign.htm

     

    Finaly I can get a website that lets me relive 15 years of internet history.....

    On the plus side, I finally found out what that one line that I never understood from the lyrics of 'Rawhide' was all about....




  • @RTapeLoadingError said:

    <bgsound src="images/SAINTSGOMARCHIN.MID" loop="-1">

    Woah, synesthesia!




  • @Sitethief said:

     http://www.yeehawww.com/websitedesign.htm

     

    Finaly I can get a website that lets me relive 15 years of internet history.....

    Please explain? Some of us don't have psychic powers and ESP.



  •  "<font face="Arial">One
    of the more complex examples of our work is right here
    at this website.
      It is not only fun but is
    informative, colorful and is fully coordinated
    .  We
    have integrated
    uniform fonts, font colors and backgrounds throughout
    the site.  All of our logos were created right here
    on site using clip art
    , pictures and type selections. 
    We then integrated our logos into our web design
    software and inserted them into our website
    ."</font>

     offcourse they are serious. and high-tech. can't you tell? they even googled color wheel, though probably not the right one.



  • I like how the silhouette of the man in front of the computer monitor shows him sitting bolt upright as if pulling back from the screen



  •  

    <font face="Arial">Another more simplified website for you to look at is

    <font color="#000000" size="4">www.AZGhostTownStage.com</font>

    .  </font>

    Lol, they have something "simpler".



  • @Someone You Know said:

    I love the rotating Jesus fish thing at the bottom. Why am I not surprised?

    I like how it's not physically accurate. Like, they could have given the fish eyes, and those could have been the crossbar on the crucifix, but nope. The just appear out of the 4th dimension. Nice work, boys.



  • @angrysoul said:

    Lol, they have something "simpler".

    which looks exactly like the original. My favorite part of that second webpage is the "click on the Ghost Town Logo" to get the welcome page. Shouldn't the "Welcome" page be the landing page? I'm guessing they charge by the 'page' for design work.

    also, the orange... the squared-off boxes... ugh.



  • @Sitethief said:

     http://www.yeehawww.com/websitedesign.htm

     

    Finaly I can get a website that lets me relive 15 years of internet history.....

    I was bored and did a mirror of this website using wget and saved the HTTP headers while I was at it. So it looks like the most recently-edited page on their site was the /index.html page, which was back in January of 2008. I was hoping for a last modified date a little older than that, but eh. I was half-tempted to e-mail Dick and ask him for a quote for a fictitious website, along with an estimated time frame for completion.



  • @dohpaz42 said:

    @Sitethief said:

     http://www.yeehawww.com/websitedesign.htm

     

    Finaly I can get a website that lets me relive 15 years of internet history.....

    I was bored and did a mirror of this website using wget and saved the HTTP headers while I was at it. So it looks like the most recently-edited page on their site was the /index.html page, which was back in January of 2008. I was hoping for a last modified date a little older than that, but eh. I was half-tempted to e-mail Dick and ask him for a quote for a fictitious website, along with an estimated time frame for completion.
    DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!


  • @dcardani said:

    @Someone You Know said:

    I love the rotating Jesus fish thing at the bottom. Why am I not surprised?

    I like how it's not physically accurate. Like, they could have given the fish eyes, and those could have been the crossbar on the crucifix, but nope. The just appear transubstantiate out of the 4th dimension heaven. Nice work, boys Jesus.

     

    JTFY.




  • @Someone You Know said:

    JTFY.
     

    "jesusifiction of your page is free!"



  • @Someone You Know said:

    @Sitethief said:

     http://www.yeehawww.com/websitedesign.htm

     

    Finaly I can get a website that lets me relive 15 years of internet history.....

     

    I love the rotating Jesus fish thing at the bottom. Why am I not surprised?

     

    Because you're a douchebag who thinks he's better than people?



  • @SEMI-HYBRID code said:

    ...<FONT face=Arial>We have integrated uniform fonts, font colors and backgrounds throughout the site...</FONT>

    Representative lines -- 

    Welcome page:

      <img border="4" src="images/AZGhostTownStageLOGO.jpg" width="280" height="215" alt="AZ Ghost Town Stage Tour Logo - Link"></a></p>

    Home page:

      <img border="3" src="images/AZGhostTownStageLOGO.jpg" width="272" height="213" alt="AZ Ghost Town Stage Logo - Link"></a></p>

    I see they are banging out pages one at a time instead of using fancy new technology like CSS or something server-side to give the site consistency.  It gives the site that rustic, hand-made feel.



  • 	<!-- MSTableType="nolayout" -->

    'Nuff zed.



  • @Sutherlands said:

    @Someone You Know said:

    @Sitethief said:

     http://www.yeehawww.com/websitedesign.htm

     

    Finaly I can get a website that lets me relive 15 years of internet history.....

     

    I love the rotating Jesus fish thing at the bottom. Why am I not surprised?

     

    Because you're a douchebag who thinks he's better than people?

     

    Thinking that a web design company's website having a rotating Jesus fish thing on it is silly makes someone a douchebag? Okay, you got me. I'm a douchebag.

    Yes, I think I'm better than some people. Don't you? If you don't, that may be a sign of clinical depression.

     



  • @Someone You Know said:

    @Sutherlands said:

    @Someone You Know said:

    @Sitethief said:

     http://www.yeehawww.com/websitedesign.htm

     

    Finaly I can get a website that lets me relive 15 years of internet history.....

     

    I love the rotating Jesus fish thing at the bottom. Why am I not surprised?

     

    Because you're a douchebag who thinks he's better than people?

     

    Thinking that a web design company's website having a rotating Jesus fish thing on it is silly makes someone a douchebag? Okay, you got me. I'm a douchebag.

    Yes, I think I'm better than some people. Don't you? If you don't, that may be a sign of clinical depression.

     

    I thought his characterization seemed pretty spot on. Perhaps we interpreted what it was that surprised you differently than intended. But to fill you in, this thread is dedicated to talking about how stupid (in the ways of the web) are the people who designed the site. Conversation turned to the Christian symbol at the bottom, and you claim that you're not surprised. So you seem to be saying something along the lines that Christians are stupid. Is there another reasonable interpretation of what you said? Because I can't see it.



  • @boomzilla said:

    So you seem to be saying something along the lines that Christians are stupid.
     

    well, that's kind of right, i mean, i can't really understand how a human that's not at least a little stupid could truly believe in christianity, and not be bothered that it doesn't answer half of the fundamental question (and contradicts itself in answering the other half), and when i remind them of that, they look at me with "blasphemy!" in their eyes and answer "we're not supposed to ask that, that's how devil tempts us!"

    really, how do you call a human being that refuses to use his own brain and gladly obeys when someone/something forbids him to use it, if not stupid?

     

    (disclaimer: this opinion is formed from my personal experiences, i don't claim it to be universally true, but i haven't had experience that would be significantly different.)



  • @SEMI-HYBRID code said:

    @boomzilla said:
    So you seem to be saying something along the lines that Christians are stupid.

    well, that's kind of right, i mean, i can't really understand how a human that's not at least a little stupid could truly believe in christianity,

    OK, you're not the original douchebag, but thanks for the heads up. I commend your douchebag solidarity. I mean, we're all stupid in our own ways, but we're not all douchebags.



  • @SEMI-HYBRID code said:

    @boomzilla said:

    So you seem to be saying something along the lines that Christians are stupid.
     

    well, that's kind of right, i mean, i can't really understand how a human that's not at least a little stupid could truly believe in christianity, and not be bothered that it doesn't answer half of the fundamental question

    What's the "fundamental question?" I mean, for me, it's "why does McDonalds only offer the McRib for a short time every other year?" and Christianity doesn't answer that worth jack. I'd like to hear your version though.

    The problem here is when you see posts like this one from SEMI-HYBRID you have to mentally replace "Christians" with "Christians who are preachy enough that they tell SEMI-HYBRID they're Christians". The second group is a small, small minority. In general, if a Christian goes out of their way to let you know they're a Christian, I would also agree that, normally, those people are pretty dumb. But that has nothing to do with Christianity.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    " I mean, for me, it's "why does McDonalds only offer the McRib for a short time every other year?"

    I can't resist, despite that question potentially being rhetorical. It's as simple as "artificial demand"; by restricting their supply to specific periods of time, they are hoping to encourage people to buy it when they make it available. This is akin to how Disney "locks" their movies in the "vault" - never to be seen again, blah blah. I've heard that Warner Bros. is going to do the same thing with Harry Potter. It's nothing more than a sad marketing tactic.

    @blakeyrat said:

    Christianity doesn't answer that worth jack.

    Yes, and no. I guess it really comes down to the denomination, as well as the church itself. At my wife's church - a Roman Catholic denomination - they term it "the mystery of faith", and is pretty centered around how the "fundamental question" is "Why are we here?"; "here" being either as simple as the physicality of "we are born, we live our lives, and we die", or as complex (and relative) as the philosophical, "what is the meaning and purpose of our lives?". So really, the fundamental question is like the H2G2 (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy), where even if we knew the answer (in the Guide, it's 42), it is not as important as the question (which is eventually discovered as a false truth: What is 6 times 9?). Basically, in my opinion, it simply boils down to whatever you deem worthy enough to be called fundamental - in your case, you jokingly mentioned the availability of the McRib. In my case, I lean more toward the philosophical, "Regardless of how we as a species were derived, what heights (spiritual, intellectual, etc) can we reach using our current potential?"



  • @blakeyrat said:

    What's the "fundamental question?" I mean, for me, it's "why does McDonalds only offer the McRib for a short time every other year?" and Christianity doesn't answer that worth jack. I'd like to hear your version though.
     

     You know how Christians don't (or didn't) eat meat on Fridays, as a form of pennance? Meat is great, and giving it up for one day is pennance enough. But the McRib is so McFuckingAwesomely Epic, it takes 23 months of have-not to properly pay pennance for eating it.

    Of course, a REAL Christian will subvert the rule by having a McFish Milkshake when the McRib isn't available.



  • @dohpaz42 said:

    @blakeyrat said:
    " I mean, for me, it's "why does McDonalds only offer the McRib for a short time every other year?"

    I can't resist, despite that question potentially being rhetorical. It's as simple as "artificial demand"

    It may be, but it may be for practical reasons as well. I used to know a guy who was fairly high up in McD's ops department over here, and from what I recall menu choices have a lot to do with the equipment available in the kitchens. Some items will, say, use the grill, need to be put in a bun/saladed/sauced, and others might need to be fried or microwaved or some such. They have to keep a resource budget in mind so they don't give the kitchens (say) too much to grill and too little to fry - which is a bit like playing Tetris. It may well be that the McRib is a menu-filler for times when there are only a couple of grill slots free in the resource budget, or something.



  • @boomzilla said:

    So you seem to be saying something along the lines that Christians are stupid.
     

    I'm saying that putting a rotating Jesus fish thing on a web design company's website is stupid, and I'm not surprised that the person who designed such an awful website is the sort of person who thinks that's a good idea.



  • @Someone You Know said:

    @boomzilla said:

    So you seem to be saying something along the lines that Christians are stupid.
     

    I'm saying that putting a rotating Jesus fish thing on a web design company's website is stupid, and I'm not surprised that the person who designed such an awful website is the sort of person who thinks that's a good idea.

    Sounds about right to me, unless they're trying to attract like minded customers...

    On my website, I wouldn't put a rotating banner ad for "Genital Warts Sufferers Anonymous".  I mean, WTF does that have to do with anything, really?  The fact that the developer thought that it's appropriate to put such rubbish on a site advertising web design screams stupid/ignorant/small mindedness.  Cuz, ya know, only Christians use the intertubes, right?

    EDIT: forgot to add that the fact that they're Christian is incidental.  You could replace it with a "Newfy" logo, and there would be people who say Newfoundlanders are stupid.



  • @C-Octothorpe said:

    The fact that the developer thought that it's appropriate to put such rubbish on a site advertising web design screams stupid/ignorant/small mindedness.  Cuz, ya know, only Christians use the intertubes, right?

    Please, please, PLEASE tell me that the rotating Jesus Fish was NOT your first and/or only clue to this fact. Lie to me if you have to.



  • @dohpaz42 said:

    @C-Octothorpe said:
    The fact that the developer thought that it's appropriate to put such rubbish on a site advertising web design screams stupid/ignorant/small mindedness.  Cuz, ya know, only Christians use the intertubes, right?

    Please, please, PLEASE tell me that the rotating Jesus Fish was NOT your first and/or only clue to this fact. Lie to me if you have to.
    No, but it sure as hell was funny.

    Oh, and you wanted me to lie to you.  Hmm, ok, uh, I shower every day...  Is that good?



  • @C-Octothorpe said:

    The fact that the developer thought that it's appropriate to put such rubbish on a site advertising web design screams stupid/ignorant/small mindedness. Cuz, ya know, only Christians use the intertubes, right?

    You probably haven't lived in an area with a large christian population, then. TRUE BELIEVERS will choose to use Christian businesses, and only grudgingly use non-believers' companies, whether it's web design, plumbing, or garbage^Wwaste management. I didn't think that part of AZ was as quite so bible-thumping, though. Colorado Springs? Sure. Anywhere in the southeastern US (other than Florida)? Sure. Arizona? ... I guess there's the crazy fundamentalist mormons in northern AZ...



  • @Someone You Know said:

    @boomzilla said:
    So you seem to be saying something along the lines that Christians are stupid.

    I'm saying that putting a rotating Jesus fish thing on a web design company's website is stupid, and I'm not surprised that the person who designed such an awful website is the sort of person who thinks that's a good idea.

    I concede that it would be a big turnoff to religious bigots, douchebags, or possibly to people of other faiths. As tweek said, though, it's definitely a positive for some market segments.



  • @tweek said:

    You probably haven't lived in an area with a large christian population, then.
    Very right.@tweek said:
    TRUE BELIEVERS will choose to use Christian businesses, and only grudgingly use non-believers' companies, whether it's web design, plumbing, or garbage^Wwaste management.
    I've heard of this, however where I live, if you put anything religious in, on or around your business, you get slammed for it, except of course if you're Muslim, then they're scared to hell to say anything to you.



  • @C Octothorpe said:

    @tweek said:
    TRUE BELIEVERS will choose to use Christian businesses, and only grudgingly use non-believers' companies, whether it's web design, plumbing, or garbage^Wwaste management.

    I've heard of this, however where I live, if you put anything religious in, on or around your business, you get slammed for it, except of course if you're Muslim, then they're scared to hell to say anything to you.

    Unfortunately for me, I grew up in "the South", and have lived in a couple of places there, but I got out eventually, and lived in NoCal and SoCal, then back to the dark ages in CoSpgs, but that's not nearly as churchy or judgmental as the small town I lived in with my aunt, where people said things like "Y'all ain't from 'round here, are ya?" and asked people upon first meeting them (a) who are you related to? and (b) which church do you go to?

    Things like that are generally frowned upon in polite USian society. But when your town is only 8300 people, and almost no one moves in or out, that's the kind of thing you get.



  • How are any of those 3 questions "impolite"?



  • @Sutherlands said:

    How are any of those 3 questions "impolite"?

    Because that would be considered "personal".  It's the same reason you don't ask someone you just met what color their underwear is.



  • @C-Octothorpe said:

    @Sutherlands said:
    How are any of those 3 questions "impolite"?

    Because that would be considered "personal".  It's the same reason you don't ask someone you just met what color their underwear is.

    As always, context is important.



  • @boomzilla said:

    @C-Octothorpe said:
    @Sutherlands said:
    How are any of those 3 questions "impolite"?
    Because that would be considered "personal".  It's the same reason you don't ask someone you just met what color their underwear is.
    As always, context is important.
    True enough, and I thought about adding that in but I already got burned on another thread when I decided to go that way...



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    What's the "fundamental question?" I mean, for me, it's "why does McDonalds only offer the McRib for a short time every other year?" and Christianity doesn't answer that worth jack. I'd like to hear your version though.
     

     You know how Christians don't (or didn't) eat meat on Fridays, as a form of pennance? Meat is great, and giving it up for one day is pennance enough. But the McRib is so McFuckingAwesomely Epic, it takes 23 months of have-not to properly pay pennance for eating it.

    Of course, a REAL Christian will subvert the rule by having a McFish MilksShake when the McRib isn't available.

     

    But only on a Friday

    Also MMTFY

     



  •  This is the guy stopping your McRibs:




  • @blakeyrat said:

    The problem here is when you see posts like this one from SEMI-HYBRID you have to mentally replace "Christians" with "Christians who are preachy enough that they tell SEMI-HYBRID they're Christians". The second group is a small, small minority. In general, if a Christian goes out of their way to let you know they're a Christian, I would also agree that, normally, those people are pretty dumb. But that has nothing to do with Christianity.
     

    the thing is i don't consider the other group (that are not preachy) to be "christians" but more of a "people who believe in christianity/christian god". this second group usually don't go out of the way to tell me proudly "i'm a christian", so i have no reason to call them that.



  • @SEMI-HYBRID code said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    The problem here is when you see posts like this one from SEMI-HYBRID you have to mentally replace "Christians" with "Christians who are preachy enough that they tell SEMI-HYBRID they're Christians". The second group is a small, small minority. In general, if a Christian goes out of their way to let you know they're a Christian, I would also agree that, normally, those people are pretty dumb. But that has nothing to do with Christianity.
     

    the thing is i don't consider the other group (that are not preachy) to be "christians" but more of a "people who believe in christianity/christian god". this second group usually don't go out of the way to tell me proudly "i'm a christian", so i have no reason to call them that.

     

    So it's like "people who use Linux" vs. "Slashdot".

     



  • @SEMI-HYBRID code said:

    the thing is i don't consider the other group (that are not preachy) to be "christians" but more of a "people who believe in christianity/christian god". this second group usually don't go out of the way to tell me proudly "i'm a christian", so i have no reason to call them that.
     

    Just reply with the most obscure self-identifier you can think of.

    "Hi, I'm Matt, and I'm a Christian. Walk in Jesus light."

    "Hi, I'm Lorne,  and I'm a [url="http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Johnny"]Johnny[/url]. Revel in the intricacies of the obscure, and follow your own winding path."



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    @SEMI-HYBRID code said:

    the thing is i don't consider the other group (that are not preachy) to be "christians" but more of a "people who believe in christianity/christian god". this second group usually don't go out of the way to tell me proudly "i'm a christian", so i have no reason to call them that.
     

    Just reply with the most obscure self-identifier you can think of.

    "Hi, I'm Matt, and I'm a Christian. Walk in Jesus light."

    "Hi, I'm Lorne,  and I'm a Johnny. Revel in the intricacies of the obscure, and follow your own winding path."

     

    i usually do that: "Hi, I'm Dave* and i'm buddhisto-satanistic pantheist. And a programmer."

     

    *hmm, there's probably no english equivalent of my name,didn't think that

     



  • @Someone You Know said:

    So it's like "people who use Linux" vs. "Slashdot".
     

    i'm not familiar with what being slashdotter means, but i suppose you might be right, possibly.

    (as long as it means "orthodox elitist douchebag")

    ((btw, i thought edit notes appear as a part of the post?))



  • @SEMI-HYBRID code said:

    @Someone You Know said:

    So it's like "people who use Linux" vs. "Slashdot".
     

    i'm not familiar with what being slashdotter means, but i suppose you might be right, possibly.

    (as long as it means "orthodox elitist douchebag")

    Yes. Slashdot has given people years of this linux is better than that linux flamewars, linux needs to be on the desktop of every user flamewars, if you don't roll your own kernel, you're a douchebag, etc. along with "This site was better in the days of HTML 1.0" whiners. (The current site design is more or less the same as it ever was, but with ajax sprinkled on top.)

    Generally orthodox elitist douchebag.


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