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  • is java open source or closed? how is freewere diff from open source?



  • @Nagesh said:

    is java open source or closed? how is freewere diff from open source?

     

    Freeware is free, open source is open and java is crap



  • @Nagesh said:

    is java open source or closed?
     

    Closed.

    @Nagesh said:

    how is freewere diff from open source?

    Freeware is where you don't pay for the software.

    Open Source is where you might pay for the program, but it's rare that you do, and have access to the full source code and are hypothetically able to compile a version of the software for yourself, at no charge.

     

     



  • @dhromed said:

    @Nagesh said:

    is java open source or closed?
     

    Closed.

    @Nagesh said:

    how is freewere diff from open source?

    Freeware is where you don't pay for the software.

    Open Source is where you might pay for the program, but it's rare that you do, and have access to the full source code and are hypothetically able to compile a version of the software for yourself, at no charge.

    So if I take open source project and recompile puting my own modifcatons, is it remain legal?



  • @Nagesh said:

    So if I take open source project and recompile puting my own modifcatons, is it remain legal?
     

    Depends on the license and what you use it for. Many open source licenses allow you to do so on the condition that your modified code is also open source.



  • @dhromed said:

    @Nagesh said:
    is java open source or closed?

    Closed.

    I don't think it's that simple. There are open source java compilers and implementations of the JDK. I believe Sun released most of the JDK under the GPL, though there were some things that relied on 3rd party stuff that they couldn't release, at least not immediately or something. The bigger concern with respect to Java has got to be patents, although that's more of a problem for people other than Oracle implementing Java as opposed to using java.

    I'm just glad this thread wasn't about opening jars.



  • @boomzilla said:

    I'm just glad this thread wasn't about opening jars.

    You just twist the lid counterclockwise, or if it stuck, hit it softly on the rim to make it loose first



  •  @RHuckster said:

    @Nagesh said:

    So if I take open source project and recompile puting my own modifcatons, is it remain legal?
     

    Depends on the license and what you use it for. Many open source licenses allow you to do so on the condition that your modified code is also open source.

    That only concerns distribution, though.  I've never seen an open source license that put any restrictions at all on personal use

     



  • @Zolcos said:

    I've never seen an open source license that put any restrictions at all on personal use

    There are many things out there that restrict commercial use (or at least attempt to).



  • @serguey123 said:

    @boomzilla said:

    I'm just glad this thread wasn't about opening jars.

    You just twist the lid counterclockwise, or if it stuck, hit it softly on the rim to make it loose first

    I use an M1911 and a big metal mixing bowl.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @serguey123 said:

    @boomzilla said:

    I'm just glad this thread wasn't about opening jars.

    You just twist the lid counterclockwise, or if it stuck, hit it softly on the rim to make it loose first

    I use an M1911 and a big metal mixing bowl.

    This explain a lot



  • @Zolcos said:

    That only concerns distribution, though.  I've never seen an open source license that put any restrictions at all on personal use
     

    Geez, and just this morning I was saying, "This forum needs more pedantic dickweeds!"



  • @RHuckster said:

    @Zolcos said:

    That only concerns distribution, though.  I've never seen an open source license that put any restrictions at all on personal use
     

    Geez, and just this morning I was saying, "This forum needs more pedantic dickweeds like me!"

    FTFY

    Your wish has been granted ten-fold,

    SHAZAMMM!!!!!



  • @RHuckster said:

    @Zolcos said:
    That only concerns distribution, though.  I've never seen an open source license that put any restrictions at all on personal use

    Geez, and just this morning I was saying, "This forum needs more pedantic dickweeds!"

    Did you quote the wrong person, then? Or is this part of your plan to troll the pedantic dickweeds?



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @serguey123 said:

    @boomzilla said:

    I'm just glad this thread wasn't about opening jars.

    You just twist the lid counterclockwise, or if it stuck, hit it softly on the rim to make it loose first

    I use an M1911 and a big metal mixing bowl.

    Holding jar in hot water help for 5 mins open lid quikly.



  • @Zolcos said:

     @RHuckster said:

    @Nagesh said:

    So if I take open source project and recompile puting my own modifcatons, is it remain legal?
     

    Depends on the license and what you use it for. Many open source licenses allow you to do so on the condition that your modified code is also open source.

    That only concerns distribution, though.  I've never seen an open source license that put any restrictions at all on personal use

    Thx 4 useful inputs.



  • @serguey123 said:

    @boomzilla said:

    I'm just glad this thread wasn't about opening jars.

    You just twist the lid counterclockwise, or if it stuck, hit it softly on the rim to make it loose first

     

     Funny, I usually use java.exe, or 7zip if I want to poke at what's inside ;)

     



  • @boomzilla said:

    Did you quote the wrong person, then? Or is this part of your plan to troll the pedantic dickweeds?
     

    None of the above, really. More grouchy after a week of long working hours while sick. Yes, I should have added to that caveat that it only applies if he compiled and then wanted to sell or otherwise distribute his modified software.



  • Java is a language. A language can't be freeware nor open source.



  • @Spectre said:

    Java is a language. A language can't be freeware nor open source.

    Well, you tell that to the fine folks of smalltalk.



  • @Spectre said:

    Java is a language. A language can't be freeware nor open source.

    I think they're referring to the homonymous framework.



  • @ekolis said:

    @serguey123 said:

    @boomzilla said:

    I'm just glad this thread wasn't about opening jars.

    You just twist the lid counterclockwise, or if it stuck, hit it softly on the rim to make it loose first

     

     Funny, I usually use java.exe, or 7zip if I want to poke at what's inside ;)

    Yeah, you can do that as well but I prefer to use the painless route



  • @Spectre said:

    Java is a language. A language can't be freeware nor open source.

    Java is a language and cannot be freeware nor open source, the Java Virtual Machine is not a language and could be open source but isn't, but technically your right- Java is a language.



  • @frits said:

    @Spectre said:

    Java is a language. A language can't be freeware nor open source.

    Java is a language and cannot be freeware nor open source, the Java Virtual Machine is not a language and could be open source but isn't, but technically your right- Java is a language.

    JVM ones also made my Microsoft company.



  • @frits said:

    @Spectre said:

    Java is a language. A language can't be freeware nor open source.

    Java is a language and cannot be freeware nor open source, the Java Virtual Machine is not a language and could be open source but isn't, but technically your right- Java is a language.

    JVM ones also made by Microsoft company.



  • @Nagesh said:

    JVM ones also made by Microsoft company.

    I think that abandoned that like... a solid decade ago. At this point, I'd say the Microsoft JVM is a non-issue.



  • @Nagesh said:

    @frits said:

    @Spectre said:

    Java is a language. A language can't be freeware nor open source.

    Java is a language and cannot be freeware nor open source, the Java Virtual Machine is not a language and could be open source but isn't, but technically your right- Java is a language.

    JVM ones also made my Microsoft company.

    They set me up the bomb.

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