More Java-hating!
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@Power Troll said:
Complete and utter bullshit. The program wouldn't have compiled - you have a syntax error in your main method's parameter (missing ]). Way to be a part of the problem.
I'm pretty sure you're living up to your username, but I'll bite anyway. CS ate the close bracket somewhere. Here:charlie:Hello World charlie$ ls hello.java charlie:Hello World charlie$ cat hello.java /* my test java program */ class Hello { public static void main(String[]] args) { System.out.println("Are you sure?"); } }charlie:Hello World charlie$ javac hello.java charlie:Hello World charlie$ ls Hello.class hello.java charlie:Hello World charlie$ java Hello.class Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Hello/class Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Hello.class at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:202) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306) at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:247) charlie:Hello World charlie$ java Hello Are you sure? charlie:Hello World charlie$
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@__moz said:
I would have disputed your claim, but then I realised that you probably live somewhere where the only role the poor are allowed to have in the political process is to execute a politician from time to time.
Now that's unfair. First, the poor are also allowed to riot. Second, it's ALL OF OUR JOBS to execute politicians. That's what being a
democracy republicoligarchy is all about!
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@charlie said:
charlie:Hello World charlie$ java Hello.class
Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Hello/class
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Hello.class
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:202)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:190)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:301)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:247)
charlie:Hello World charlie$ java Hello
Hello World!
charlie:Hello World charlie$I just started learning Java (I have to for my uni course). Seriously, WTF?
It is a WTF, but only a minor one. They could have added support for taking filenames to class files, parsing the file, setting up a suitable classpath, and then using that. But that would just isolate people who don't understand the classpath system from their ignorance and might end up causing more confusion.From the design point of view, imagine that you're on an embedding processor with no filesystem... More seriously, the ".class" is part of the name of the file, but it's not part of the name of the class, and the original idea (which is occasionally used, though not often) is that you might be loading the class from something other than a file - from a remote URL, or a database, for example. (The idea that people would store binary class objects in BLOBs is arguably TRWTF).
@topspin said:
Just skimmed the headlines: talks about destructors instead of finalizers...
Well, yes. That page could have been abbreviated greatly to "It's not C++, and it has garbage collection".
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@Power Troll said:
Complete and utter bullshit. The program wouldn't have compiled - you have a syntax error in your main method's parameter (missing ]). Way to be a part of the problem.
The ] is there. CS just removes it as some sort of escaping mechanism.
You may suckle on your foot now.
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@boomzilla said:
@__moz said:
That's the silliest thing I've read on Wikipedia all week.@hoodaticus said:
Your comment is a non sequitur and largely incoherent. Please allow me to be more coherent and less random by introducing the Roe Effect.The best thing I can say about the Left is that they don't reproduce very much.
I would have disputed your claim, but then I realised that you probably live somewhere where the only role the poor are allowed to have in the political process is to execute a politician from time to time.
In my country, there are people who support left wing policies to help others, and people who support left wing policies to help themselves. The latter, in my experience*, have no particular aversion to starting a family.
My argument is that the design of the political system in the USA does not give these people much access to power or influence over policy. That may be why all of the "left-wing" people you mention are extremely wealthy.* There are statistics out there, but it would take too much effort to compare no. abortions, no. births and poverty indicators for different areas.
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@__moz said:
In my country, there are people who support left wing policies to help others, and people who support left wing policies to help themselves.
They're both wrong.
@__moz said:
The latter, in my experience*, have no particular aversion to starting a family.
Good job missing the point.
@__moz said:
My argument is that the design of the political system in the USA does not give these people much access to power or influence over policy. That may be why all of the "left-wing" people you mention are extremely wealthy.
That doesn't make sense at all. I don't know what country you're from, but I suspect it has a smaller population than the US. It's basic math that the bigger the population, the less effect an individual can have over policy. OBPedanticDickweed: This applies to citizenship in general, not people in actual policy making positions, of course. Obviously, the individuals ability to influence policy grows as the scope of the government in question shrinks (i.e., from federal to state to local). This was actually a feature of federalism, and why so many things were originally left to the states. Your leftist friends in this country have fought against that vigorously for the last century.
Perhaps you were really talking about stuff like all of the regulations that federal agencies create. There, I would agree with you, but I suspect this isn't what you meant, especially since this has been mostly accomplished based on leftist (i.e., Progressive) actions. Yes, that includes guys like Nixon, who implemented wage and price controls.
@__moz said:
* There are statistics out there, but it would take too much effort to
compare no. abortions, no. births and poverty indicators for different
areas.One interesting statistic in the US is the abortion rate in New York City. Recent statistics state that about 41% of all pregnancies in NYC end in abortion. Blacks have abortions at a nearly 60% rate. NYC is very very liberal, and blacks are one of the most consistently liberal voting blocks.
It's also interesting (and sad) that people like Jesse Jackson used to decry the super high black abortion rate. Now they have bought into the "right to choose" along with the rest of American liberals. I've been wondering how long before a disparate impact suit gets filed against Planned Parenthood. I suppose Margaret Sanger would be happy at how well her eugenics outfit is succeeding.
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Can we all keep the trolling on topic?
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@dhromed said:
Generally speaking, when something is there, and then it gets removed, we call the outcome "not there".@Power Troll said:
Complete and utter bullshit. The program wouldn't have compiled - you have a syntax error in your main method's parameter (missing ]). Way to be a part of the problem.
The ] is there. CS just removes it as some sort of escaping mechanism.
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@boomzilla said:
@__moz said:
* There are statistics out there, but it would take too much effort to
compare no. abortions, no. births and poverty indicators for different
areas.One interesting statistic in the US is the abortion rate in New York City. Recent statistics state that about 41% of all pregnancies in NYC end in abortion. Blacks have abortions at a nearly 60% rate. NYC is very very liberal, and blacks are one of the most consistently liberal voting blocks.
It's also interesting (and sad) that people like Jesse Jackson used to decry the super high black abortion rate. Now they have bought into the "right to choose" along with the rest of American liberals. I've been wondering how long before a disparate impact suit gets filed against Planned Parenthood. I suppose Margaret Sanger would be happy at how well her eugenics outfit is succeeding.
Just as the number of abortions, in isolation to other numbers, tells nothing, the percentage of pregnancies that are aborted tells very little. How does the birth rate compare? A 60% abortion rate could merely mean that NYC blacks are using abortions as their primary means of birth control. Considering how anti-condom many vocal blacks are, this seems to me to be a distinct possibility.
That having been said, it really would be cheaper for the country over all if they'd learn to use preventative birth control methods better...
The eugenics suggestion would only be accurate if Planned Parenthood was actually causing a population decline among the target community. If I'm not mistaken, I've heard that population is still growing. It may not be growing at the rate it would be without any form of birth control, but it is still growing.
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@tgape said:
(bullshit)
What is WRONG with you people? There has to be other forums for you to debate about abortion on, huh? Or at least other threads in the General Chat section that I can ignore?
Goddamned.
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@tgape said:
Just as the number of abortions, in isolation to other numbers, tells nothing, the percentage of pregnancies that are aborted tells very little. How does the birth rate compare? A 60% abortion rate could merely mean that NYC blacks are using abortions as their primary means of birth control. Considering how anti-condom many vocal blacks are, this seems to me to be a distinct possibility.
Yes, I wasn't really trying to show the magnitude of effect. But to give an < href="http://www.statehealthfacts.org/comparemaptable.jsp?cat=2&ind=35">extreme example with repspect to the numbers of live births per 1000 population (2008 numbers):
- Utah 20.3
- New York 12.8
Obviously, there are more factors at work.
@tgape said:
The eugenics suggestion would only be accurate if Planned Parenthood was actually causing a population decline among the target community.
Well, it's definitely keeping populations deemed undesirable to PP's founders from being less populous than they would otherwise be, so there's certainly some success there.
@tgape said:
If I'm not mistaken, I've heard that population is still growing. It may not be growing at the rate it would be without any form of birth control, but it is still growing.
The fertility rate in the US as a whole is just barely above replacement rates. Most of our population growth is actually immigration. And the fertility rate is actually propped up in part by the birth rates of recent immigrants, especially Latin Americans, most of whom are Catholic.
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@dhromed said:
@Power Troll said:
Complete and utter bullshit. The program wouldn't have compiled - you have a syntax error in your main method's parameter (missing ]). Way to be a part of the problem.
The ] is there. CS just removes it as some sort of escaping mechanism.
You may suckle on your foot now.
Well, at least I didn't have to read through a few paragraphs of derp to get to the self-contradiction. Thanks bro, appreciate it. In the meantime I'll continue on my quest to learn all of the bugs urrrrrr features of CS. I've clearly got lots to learn.
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@blakeyrat said:
What is WRONG with you people? There has to be other forums for you to debate about abortion on, huh? Or at least other threads in the General Chat section that I can ignore?
Sorry, I was saving those threads for the death penalty, public pension reform and the fair tax.
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@boomzilla said:
@blakeyrat said:
Don't forget, we also need one for socialised health care, and I think we might as well reserve one for education while we're at it.What is WRONG with you people? There has to be other forums for you to debate about abortion on, huh? Or at least other threads in the General Chat section that I can ignore?
Sorry, I was saving those threads for the death penalty, public pension reform and the fair tax.
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@Scarlet Manuka said:
@boomzilla said:
@blakeyrat said:
Don't forget, we also need one for socialised health care, and I think we might as well reserve one for education while we're at it.What is WRONG with you people? There has to be other forums for you to debate about abortion on, huh? Or at least other threads in the General Chat section that I can ignore?
Sorry, I was saving those threads for the death penalty, public pension reform and the fair tax.But isn't TRWTF that Amanda Knox was found not guilty?
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@boomzilla said:
But isn't TRWTF that Amanda Knox was found not guilty?
The WTF is that she got railroaded for a crime she didn't commit because she was a foreigner and in the wrong place at the wrong time. Never have I agreed more with Pokey the Penguin...
