Sounds for non-english spekers.



  • You say "TON". with "T" sound,

    but relaton with "Shun" sound.

     

    Why?

    Also, GO not ryme with DO?


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    "Ton" is the way it is because it's a corruption of the earlier tonne.

    Go and Do are the way they are because they've VERY old words. The older the word in English, the less sense it makes because it predates the written form of the language.

     

     In general, the answer to this type of question is: Because the English Language is a straight bastard. The entire thing
    is a giant morass of foreign spellings, corrupted spellings,foreign
    pronunciations, corrupted pronunciations and remarkably consistent
    invented terms.

     

     


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    Have fun with these then:

    • though
    • through
    • cough
    • rough
    • ought
    • borough
    • hiccough


  • @Nagesh said:

    Also, GO not ryme with DO?
     

    English is a mishmash of pretty much everything.

    Suggested reading:

    - The Chaos
    - The Mother Tongue, a fun large book by Bill Bryson.



  • pearl
    bread
    beard
    meat
    create



  • @Weng said:

    "

     In general, the answer to this type of question is: Because every Language is a straight bastard. The entire thing is a giant morass of foreign spellings, corrupted spellings,foreign pronunciations, corrupted pronunciations and remarkably consistent invented terms.

    FTFY



  • @PJH said:

    Have fun with these then:

    • though
    • through
    • cough
    • rough
    • ought
    • borough
    • hiccough

     

    But on the other hand:

    • rose
    • rows
    • rhos
    • roes

    and:

    • air
    • err
    • heir
    • Ayer
    • ere
    • are (the metric unit of area, not the plural of "is")
    • e'er
     

     



  •  @PJH said:

    Have fun with these then:

    • though
    • through
    • cough
    • rough
    • ought
    • borough
    • hiccough

    • Tomb
    • Comb
    • Bomb

    • Lose
    • Loose
    • Chose
    • Choose

    • None
    • Tone
    • Gone

     

     



  • Then there's these. Different words with the same spelling and one has to infer pronunciation from context!



  • @Zemm said:

    Then there's these. Different words with the same spelling and one has to infer pronunciation from context!
     

    +1

     

    For the Dutch:
    Voorkomen is beter dan voorkomen.



  •  Filed under: ghoti

     

      An oldy but goody.  I learned that one from the old 1960's Batman TV series. 



  • @Nagesh said:

    You say "TON". with "T" sound,

    but relaton with "Shun" sound.

     

    Why?

    Also, GO not ryme with DO?

     

    Ah!! You all missed it.  It's RELATION.

    TION = SHUN  not TON.



  • @El_Heffe said:

     Filed under: ghoti

      An oldy but goody.  I learned that one from the old 1960's Batman TV series. 

    very very intresting.



  • @Nagesh said:

    @El_Heffe said:

     Filed under: ghoti

      An oldy but goody.  I learned that one from the old 1960's Batman TV series. 

    very very intresting.

    No, that was Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In

     

     



  • And then there are people who make up weird pronunciations of their names. 

    Favre.  Notice that the "v" comes before the "r", and yet it is pronounced "Farv"?

    Fieri.  Pronounces it "Fee-et-ee".  WTF?  Since when is an "r" pronounced like a "t"?



  • @El_Heffe said:

    Fieri.  Pronounces it "Fee-et-ee".  WTF?  Since when is an "r" pronounced like a "t"?
     

    It never is.  The sound you're calling a "t" is actually an "apical approximant flap", not to be confused with an "apical approximant trill" which is the same sound repeated rapidly like a wild war call.  Other languages (like, in this case, Italian) have sounds that are not typically used in English.

    Or they have multiple sounds that are different to them but are mapped the same point in the English sound-space, like the four different "t" sounds in Hindi.  (In case you weren't aware of it, the people in the Bangalore call centers are laughing behind your back at the way you pronounce their names.)

    Now, would someone like to explain why the Brazilian point-of-sale terminal company "Digirede" is pronounced "didjee-hezzie"?



  • I would like it, though, if the transcription to latin alphabet was done in a more intuitive manner.

    For example: Vishnu. It's pronounced Wishnu. Why not spell it with a W then? It comes from a completely different script! There is no reason to make up inconsistent pronunciation rules.



  •  Consistent for whom?  The Japanese believe that their syllables "ta", "chi" and "tsu" all start with the same consonant.  We, on the other hand, spell "code" with one initial letter, "king" with another and "quit" with a third for no reason that makes sense to them.  Russian has one letter for T and another for S, but when they appear together they use a third letter that resembles neither; silly foreigners, you say, but don't we do the same thing with K and S and this funny X that combines the two?


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @da Doctah said:

    In case you weren't aware of it, the people in the Bangalore call centers are laughing behind your back at the way you pronounce their names.
    You mean there's more than one way to pronounce "Stephen," "Sean" and "Peter?"



  • @da Doctah said:

    The Japanese believe that their syllables "ta", "chi" and "tsu" all start with the same consonant.
     

    They don't write it ta, chi and tsu.



  • @dhromed said:

    @da Doctah said:

    The Japanese believe that their syllables "ta", "chi" and "tsu" all start with the same consonant.
     

    They don't write it ta, chi and tsu.

     

    No, but they do write it with characters from the same row of the goju-on, both in hiragana and katakana, which makes it pretty clear that they think of T, CH and TS a single consonant.  Likewise H and F.

     



  • The letter "N" is used to make meny sounds in my native tonge. if you're not used to it, you not able to meke the sound corectly.


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