This'll speed it up!



  • Today I got an email from the boss saying one of our sites won't let him log in. The actual site works but when he goes to log in there "some server error". I'm thinking uh-oh because I just fooled with the configuration on that server. Site works, try to log in, it cant connect. Try to go to admin area. Fail.

    Then I remember that logins and admin are all ssl, so it sounds like the secure apache is not starting. There's some warnings in the error_log but nothing that should be stopping it from at least starting. Telnet localhost 443 from server connects. Telnet www.example.com 443 from both server and my computer is rejected. WTF? For no reason at all I tried Telnet ip.ad.re.ss 443 which connects. WTFF?

    Then I ping www.example.com. That ip address looks different! dig confirms cnames to a CDN.

    Turns out the boss turned on media temple's new cloudflare feature without telling me, and ignoring the warning about it not working with ssl sites.

    Or is TRWTF is that it took a week for anyone to notice?



  • @Zemm said:

    Telnet www.example.com

    There's your problem. example.com per rule doesn't exist because it's reserved to be used as an example in meta-discussions. Also IIRC, IP addresses aren't usually base-36 encoded, and when I try to ping 673.373.986.1036 it tells me "unknown host" for some reason.



  • @derula said:

    @Zemm said:
    Telnet www.example.com

    There's your problem. example.com per rule doesn't exist because it's reserved to be used as an example in meta-discussions. Also IIRC, IP addresses aren't usually base-36 encoded, and when I try to ping 673.373.986.1036 it tells me "unknown host" for some reason.

    You're just not awesome enough for the power of example.com's IPv4.9. It's the LTE of IP!



  •  What makes you think the address "ip.ad.re.ss" is in base-36 encoding?

     It could just as likely be 547.303.797.840 in base-29, or 565.313.824.868 in base-30.



  • @derula said:

    @Zemm said:
    Telnet www.example.com

    There's your problem. example.com per rule doesn't exist because it's reserved to be used as an example in meta-discussions. Also IIRC, IP addresses aren't usually base-36 encoded, and when I try to ping 673.373.986.1036 it tells me "unknown host" for some reason.

     

    Yeah, some people are just so dense.



  • @Rootbeer said:

     What makes you think the address "ip.ad.re.ss" is in base-36 encoding?

     It could just as likely be 547.303.797.840 in base-29, or 565.313.824.868 in base-30.

    You're right. It could also be base-19, if you say a=0, b=1 etc. Then you'd get 167.3.327.360. Still says unknown host though. Maybe my system just doesn't support IPv4.9...



  • You're not real men, until you've used base-e.



  • @Rhywden said:

    You're not real men, until you've used base-e.
     

    And after that, you're just sad, lonely, broken shells of men clinging to well-worn slide rules!



  • @Zemm said:

    Turns out the boss turned on media temple's new cloudflare feature without telling me, and ignoring the warning about it not working with ssl sites.

    CloudFlare:

    @CloudFlare said:

    For websites that want performance and security taken care of for them.

    So it takes care of security for you, but it doesn't support SSL?

    What the hell does this thing actually do? Is it just a CDN? I'm not spending 5 minutes to watch a video when I could get the same information in 2 sentences of text, if they'd bothered to type it...



  • @blakeyrat said:

    What the hell does this thing actually do? Is it just a CDN? I'm not spending 5 minutes to watch a video when I could get the same information in 2 sentences of text, if they'd bothered to type it...

    Looks like a distributed, load-balanced, caching proxy ... yay for commercial squid!

    To be fair, the free product doesn't support SSL, but the 'Pro' version does.

    Edit: LOL -- their web site forces HTTPS, but the videos are on the non-SSL side. Since my company's browser rejects the non-SSL content on a secure page, I can't watch the videos.



  • @zelmak said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    What the hell does this thing actually do? Is it just a CDN? I'm not spending 5 minutes to watch a video when I could get the same information in 2 sentences of text, if they'd bothered to type it...

    Looks like a distributed, load-balanced, caching proxy ... yay for commercial squid!

    To be fair, the free product doesn't support SSL, but the 'Pro' version does.

    The free version is the version that has that copy... so... they're idiots.



  • @zelmak said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    What the hell does this thing actually do? Is it just a CDN? I'm not spending 5 minutes to watch a video when I could get the same information in 2 sentences of text, if they'd bothered to type it...

    Looks like a distributed, load-balanced, caching proxy ... yay for commercial squid!

    To be fair, the free product doesn't support SSL, but the 'Pro' version does.

    Edit: LOL -- their web site forces HTTPS, but the videos are on the non-SSL side. Since my company's browser rejects the non-SSL content on a secure page, I can't watch the videos.

    I'd say not so much a caching proxy as a filtering proxy.



  • @RichP said:

    @Rhywden said:

    You're not real men, until you've used base-e.
     

    And after that, you're just sad, lonely, broken shells of men clinging to well-worn slide rules!

    Actually did a (quantum physics related) projet where the theory was all in a "non-rational" base...loads of fun getting that implemented as a program (was great on paper)....FWIW I do have a few sliderules still kicking around, and one "under glass"...just in case



  • @zelmak said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    What the hell does this thing actually do? Is it just a CDN? I'm not spending 5 minutes to watch a video when I could get the same information in 2 sentences of text, if they'd bothered to type it...

    Looks like a distributed, load-balanced, caching proxy ... yay for commercial squid!

    ...

    Why do squid need caching proxies of any kind?  And what differentiates a commercial squid from and average every-day squid?



  • @Medezark said:

    @zelmak said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    What the hell does this thing actually do? Is it just a CDN? I'm not spending 5 minutes to watch a video when I could get the same information in 2 sentences of text, if they'd bothered to type it...

    Looks like a distributed, load-balanced, caching proxy ... yay for commercial squid!

    ...

    Why do squid need caching proxies of any kind?  And what differentiates a commercial squid from and average every-day squid?

    The SQUIDs I know are only found in a laboratory setting. It's quite difficult to detect magnetic fields down to 10E-5 Tesla in a normal cubicle, y'know?


  • @Medezark said:

    @zelmak said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    What the hell does this thing actually do? Is it just a CDN? I'm not spending 5 minutes to watch a video when I could get the same information in 2 sentences of text, if they'd bothered to type it...

    Looks like a distributed, load-balanced, caching proxy ... yay for commercial squid!

    ...

    Why do squid need caching proxies of any kind?  And what differentiates a commercial squid from and average every-day squid?

    Commercial squid:





    Everyday squid:



  • @zelmak said:

    To be fair, the free product doesn't support SSL, but the 'Pro' version does.

    The "free" version is now a tickbox option in the AccountCenter so it was easy for the boss to turn it on.


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