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  • Found something interesting while exploring the lower levels of the building where I work. I could write a huge text about it, but a picture is worth a thousand words, so:

    My best guess is that someone wrote the specs so that the light would only be turned on if people came from one direction. Also the engineer must have been a very pragmatic programmer with a strict sense for minimal resource usage. That, or being closer to the door increases accuracy/sensitivity.



  • [quote user="Renan "C#" Sousa"]Found something interesting while exploring the lower levels of the building where I work.[/quote] 

    I hear the Strength bobblehead is somewhere in those corridors.



  • @dhromed said:

    I hear the Strength bobblehead is somewhere in those corridors.
    You earned the Fallout Addict badge



  • Why would it be there? According to the Fallout wiki, it's found in Lucas Simms' house in Megaton.[1]

    [1] - http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Bobblehead_-_Strength



  • Is TRWTF that they should have used a system that registers micro changes in air density?



  • @dhromed said:

    [quote user="Renan "C#" Sousa"]Found something interesting while exploring the lower levels of the building where I work.

     

    I hear the Strength bobblehead is somewhere in those corridors.

    [/quote]

    You know what bothers me about Fallout. It's been 200 years since the war. There's Abraxo cleaner everywhere. WHY IS EVERYTHING STILL SO FILTHY! Even the houses people actually live in!

    I mean, that's ignoring the whole "why are the lights and computers still on issue" because long-lasting nuclear power in the Fallout universe is cheap enough that you can kind of just handwave that one.

    But you go to a town in Fallout, enter a house that's being ACTIVELY LIVED IN, and the walls are filthy, the sink is broken. They haven't removed the appliances that don't work from the kitchen. They didn't bother to fix the toilet, which is 100% mechanical. At least Megaton shows some of the infrastructure for modern living, like water pumps, that's more than most Fallout cities manage.

    New Vegas has this awesome 30' tall statue of the New California Republic trooper shaking hands with a local, and during the undoubtedly long and hard process of building this statue, they didn't even clear the destroyed cars out from the road 10' in front of it!! You'd think they'd do that if only to create space to work in.

    (Also, how come some non-Ghouls in Fallout seem to be immortal? It makes sense when the 200+ year old person turns out to be a computer AI, but what's the deal with Vault 112?)


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    @blakeyrat said:

    You know what bothers me about Fallout. It's been 200 years since the war. There's Abraxo cleaner everywhere. WHY IS EVERYTHING STILL SO FILTHY! Even the houses people actually live in!
      This drove me fucking nuts. The doctor at the beginning of New Vegas seemed to be the ONLY person to actually keep up on his shit. Hell, his shelves were even organized. I felt guilty raiding him for materiel.

    @blakeyrat said:

    New Vegas has this awesome 30' tall statue of the New California Republic trooper shaking hands with a local, and during the undoubtedly long and hard process of building this statue, they didn't even clear the destroyed cars out from the road 10' in front of it!! You'd think they'd do that if only to create space to work in.
    I wouldn't want to be pushing around busted-ass cars that will explode into nuclear hellfire at the slightest provocation. Especially when they're on a road that essentially drives straight up a cliff. The actual waystation area on the flat bit at the top is clear. Also, a 60's era car with a goddamn nuclear reactor in it is probably UNGODLY HEAVY. Moving one with just man and beast might be an exceedingly difficult prospect.

     @blakeyrat said:

    (Also, how come some non-Ghouls in Fallout seem to be immortal? It makes sense when the 200+ year old person turns out to be a computer AI, but what's the deal with Vault 112?)
    Vault 112 had cryogenics to go with its fancy bullshit VR thing.

     



  • @Weng said:

    I wouldn't want to be pushing around busted-ass cars that will explode into nuclear hellfire at the slightest provocation. Especially when they're on a road that essentially drives straight up a cliff. The actual waystation area on the flat bit at the top is clear. Also, a 60's era car with a goddamn nuclear reactor in it is probably UNGODLY HEAVY. Moving one with just man and beast might be an exceedingly difficult prospect.

    The lack of working motor vehicles is another annoyance. Hell, I built one in Fallout 2. There's a working car up there in Oregon somewhere.


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     Presumably by the time FNV happens, the NCR regions have them once again (probably reconditioned old ones at the least) - since that's where you built the one in F2. It's also heavily implied that the NCR is running rail traffic again - presumably using reconditioned nuclear-fired steam locomotives (HELL YES).

    Why aren't there cars in the mojave wasteland? I-15 on the NCR side up to the checkpoint with the bitchin' statue is presumably fairly clear and peaceful - but just driving down the aforementioned hill after the checkpoint is pretty iffy - nevermind getting around successfully in your rolling NUCLEAR BOMB with various factions shooting at you.  Furthermore, one of the big items that every car needs replaced is tires. The rubber industry may be so limited that no sane person is going to take their tires somewhere that they're going to have to leave the pavement.

    Why aren't there cars in the capitol wasteland? Because there ain't any serious civilization for thousands of miles, that's why.

     

    This, however, does not explain why nobody has attached a saddle to a brahmin - or started ripping out the nuclear drivetrains from these wrecked cars and started putting them on something that looks like a metal-wheeled tractor.

     

    And on the topic of transit in Fallout: Why the fuck was the DC Metro System so fucked up? Seriously - the track map looked like a ball of string, instead of a clearly laid out network like the real thing..



  • @Weng said:

    Presumably by the time FNV happens, the NCR regions have them once again (probably reconditioned old ones at the least) - since that's where you built the one in F2. It's also heavily implied that the NCR is running rail traffic again - presumably using reconditioned nuclear-fired steam locomotives (HELL YES).

    Another minor gripe about New Vegas: It's not very post-apocalyptic. There's a government, with an effective military.

    But are you seriously telling me that motor vehicles wouldn't give the NCR a HUGE strategic advantage over Ceasar's Legions? If they had them at home, they'd be busting their asses to transport them to the front line. (Think of the Parisian taxi cabs pressed into military service in WWI.) Of course, the NCR also doesn't seem to have any artillery, which is one of the things you really need motor vehicles to move around, so... that's another huge WTF right there. "Yes, we can repair this nuclear powered hovering robot with plasma guns, but we haven't cracked 19th century breech-loading technology yet!"

    @Weng said:

    And on the topic of transit in Fallout: Why the fuck was the DC Metro System so fucked up? Seriously - the track map looked like a ball of string, instead of a clearly laid out network like the real thing..

    Haha no kidding. Plus the areas of the city ONLY accessible through Metro tunnels... thank God for the auto-mapper.


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     Also of note is that the first fusion-powered car rolled out in 2070 - and production numbers were limited because of war production. The bombs fell in 2077. 7 years of limited production should not have replaced EVERY vehicle - few ICE cars should have been on the road, since the war was over dwindling oil supplies - but that just means empty roads. This was probably a stylistically-driven retcon for FO3, because that 60's vibe just doesn't work without buttloads of classic american iron.

    Military-oriented transport vehicles were apparently either ICE powered (and deployed along the oil infrastructure) or nuclear (and deployed to mainland China) - so the lack of pre-existing heavy military equipment is vaguely excusable.


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    @blakeyrat said:

    Another minor gripe about New Vegas: It's not very post-apocalyptic. There's a government, with an effective military.
    I actually quite liked that. Just because we blew up the planet doesn't mean the end of civilization for all eternity. Rebuilding is possible - indeed, that's one of the major themes of the series (not that you'd know it from how everyone seems eternally attached to ruined old garbage).



  • @Weng said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    Another minor gripe about New Vegas: It's not very post-apocalyptic. There's a government, with an effective military.
    I actually quite liked that. Just because we blew up the planet doesn't mean the end of civilization for all eternity. Rebuilding is possible - indeed, that's one of the major themes of the series (not that you'd know it from how everyone seems eternally attached to ruined old garbage).

    Yeah, but it changes it from "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome" to "The Postman." And "The Postman" was a much worse movie. Therefore, it's a bad change. QED!



  •  Still not gonna play FNV, yall.



  • I believe the Legion did have limited artillery, there was something you could repair up on Fort Hill. And if they successfully sway the Boomers onto their side, they have a LOT of artillery.



  • Everything you people've said makes me want to buy the games. I know they're good, specially seeing all the cult following the series has got... Do I have to play them all from the 1st one through the last to get the best of it, or can I skip directly to New Vegas?



  • [quote user="Renan "C#" Sousa"]Everything you people've said makes me want to buy the games. I know they're good, specially seeing all the cult following the series has got... Do I have to play them all from the 1st one through the last to get the best of it, or can I skip directly to New Vegas?[/quote] 

    Play either 1+2 OR 3 + New Vegas, because they're totally different style games.

    I started with 3, and then lost interest in New Vegas, but it's okay to start with NV. The stories don't overlap in any way.



  • @dhromed said:

    Play either 1+2 OR 3 + New Vegas, because they're totally different style games.

    No, that's crap. The only thing that changes is 3D instead of 2D, and you can play combat like a FPS if you choose. Changing the rendering engine and adding a new way of doing combat does not constitute a "totally different style", unless you're a drooling fanboy.

    (And you should be aware that Fallout has a large "utterly insane fanboy" army that follows the series around. Like the guys who were saying Fallout 3 was "ruined" because it didn't allow you to murder children. Never join the Fallout fandom.)

    Anyway, Fallout 2 is pretty much still the best RPG ever made. The writers thought of everything. Everything. You can even play through the entire game with an Intelligence stat of 1, which means you're too dumb to speak. Fallout 1 and Fallout 3 are both good, but... honestly I'm starting to think New Vegas is a better game than Fallout 3, although it's a really close call. I can't imagine why dhromed got bored of New Vegas.

    Fair warning, though: if you're spoiled by modern games, Fallout 1 and 2 might be hard to get through. Especially 1, with its "crappy even by Fallout standards" UI. Fallout 3 and New Vegas are more accessible, especially if you've played Gamebryo games (like the last couple Elder Scrolls) before.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    No, that's crap. The only thing that changes is 3D instead of 2D
     

    Granted, the game system is the same.

    The playstyle is completely different though. There's no way you can compare topdown isometric view with FP/TP view.

    @blakeyrat said:

    I can't imagine why dhromed got bored of New Vegas.

    I've never played it. It just doesn't seem interesting to me. I also played the first few minutes of the "demo" version of Portal 2, and I'm not really into it. The atmosphere of isolation and weirdness that was so present in Portal 1 is completely gone in 2.

     



  • @dhromed said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    No, that's crap. The only thing that changes is 3D instead of 2D
     

    Granted, the game system is the same.

    ... and the setting, and the story, and the writing quality, and the quirky humor style, and the enemies, and...

    It's the SAME GAME!

    @dhromed said:

    The playstyle is completely different though. There's no way you can compare topdown isometric view with FP/TP view.

    Oh how convenient that there's "no way you can" provide evidence for your bullshit assertion.

    Look, the game engine changed. Woop-de-shit. Here's a short list of other long-running game systems that also had an engine change at some point:

    • ALL OF THEM DUHHH

    Sometimes you have to just fucking cope with change. JUST FUCKING COPE AND STOP WHINING. I mean, shit. Fallout would be DEAD if not for Bethesda, and all they get for their effort is whining from the fandom, the very definition of "unpleasable fanbase." It's almost as if they wanted that shitty Xbox game to be the only modern Fallout game!

    @dhromed said:

    I also played the first few minutes of the "demo" version of Portal 2, and I'm not really into it. The atmosphere of isolation and weirdness that was so present in Portal 1 is completely gone in 2.

    Portal 2 is highly overrated. I agree. I also find the humor more grating than hilarious, but that might just be because I don't like Stephen Merchant's style, and also because I've gotten sick of him from his TV show appearances. They could have found a new up-and-coming comedian who has a fresh style instead of hiring a guy who, frankly, ... doesn't.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Anyway, Fallout 2 is pretty much still the best RPG ever made. The writers thought of everything. Everything. You can even play through the entire game with an Intelligence stat of 1, which means you're too dumb to speak. Fallout 1 and Fallout 3 are both good, but... honestly I'm starting to think New Vegas is a better game than Fallout 3, although it's a really close call. I can't imagine why dhromed got bored of New Vegas.

     If you haven't, you should Google "Fallout 2 Restoration Project". Some people went through the original Fallout 2, fixed most of the bugs, found a bunch of content that got cut, got a copy of the some of the original design bible, and I believe even talked with some of the original developers, etch, and implemented all that stuff. There are a few new cities, new quests, etc.



  • @dhromed said:

    I also played the first few minutes of the "demo" version of Portal 2, and I'm not really into it. The atmosphere of isolation and weirdness that was so present in Portal 1 is completely gone in 2.
    That reminds me: I still haven't finished the excessively difficult mod "Portal: Prelude".

    As for Portal 2, I'm waiting for the price to go down. But I have no problems with the humor in the promotional videos.



  • It's the SAME GAME!

    I dunno, I bought 1+2 for dirt cheap after seriously enjoying 3, and I just can't get into them. I seem to be doing something wrong in that in 2 I can never get enough money together to buy or grab a decent weapon, and as a result the wasteland eats me alive in under thirty minutes. Even in 1 when that doesn't happen, I get bored not long after that, the combat being a stiffly implemented "click miss click miss click miss click miss click DIE!" affair which is dull.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Oh how convenient that there's "no way you can" provide evidence for your bullshit assertion.
     

    I'm not going to play Fallout 2, because it has a top down (well, 45°) sprited isometric view, and that's the primary reason the play experience is completely different, regardless of whether everything else is the same.

    Do you mean to suggest that the viewpoint and control scheme of a player are irrelevant to the experience?

    @blakeyrat said:

    RAGHhagrhhagrhahgrgahahargh
     

    Nice going, Karkat.

    @blakeyrat said:

    I mean, shit. Fallout would be DEAD if not for Bethesda, and all they get for their effort is whining from the fandom, the very definition of "unpleasable fanbase."

     I don't know, are you raging at me, or F3 fanbois? I'm not whining, I mean.

     



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Fair warning, though: if you're spoiled by modern games, Fallout 1 and 2 might be hard to get through. Especially 1, with its "crappy even by Fallout standards" UI. Fallout 3 and New Vegas are more accessible, especially if you've played Gamebryo games (like the last couple Elder Scrolls) before.

    I play stuff on Dos Box (I specially LOVE the X-Com series), so I'm now going to give it a try. Thanks for the tips 🙂



  • @blakeyrat said:

    But you go to a town in Fallout, enter a house that's being ACTIVELY LIVED IN, and the walls are filthy
     

    I actually had an idea about this just now.

    There's a bit of a water shortage. You can't really go spring cleaning when you don't have a bucket full of water to waste on the walls and floor.

    For everything else, I suspend disbelief. I'm pretty good at that.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Yeah, but it changes it from "Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome" to "The Postman." And "The Postman" was a much worse movie.
     

    I think you're confused there.  That was a book, not a movie.  Why would anyone ever try to make a movie of "The Postman"?  That would be like making a sequel to "Highlander".  Or "Aliens".  Or "Starship Troopers".  Or films based on video games like "Postal" or "Bloodrayne".

    Not going to happen.  At least not while I have access to a time machine and a hypo full of sulfa drugs.



  • For a moment I thought you said "Portal", not "Postal"... a movie based on Portal might be kind of interesting!

    Then again, I remember someone I used to know wanted to become a filmmaker so he could make a movie based on Metroid... seeing how "Metroid: Other M" turned out, I wonder if that cured him of his ambition?



  • @ekolis said:

    a movie based on Portal might be kind of interesting!
     

    I'll see if Mr. Boll is available for the project.



  • @dhromed said:

    I also played the first few minutes of the "demo" version of Portal 2, and I'm not really into it. The atmosphere of isolation and weirdness that was so present in Portal 1 is completely gone in 2.

    Keep going.  It gets a whole lot weirder once you're a few levels in, after a certain highly significant plot event that I can't talk about because that would be a massive spoiler. 😉

     



  • @Mason Wheeler said:

    Keep going.  It gets a whole lot weirder once you're a few levels in, after a certain highly significant plot event that I can't talk about because that would be a massive spoiler. 😉

    YMMV.

    And in any case, don't encourage people to play the games they pirate. Here's an idea: PAY MONEY AND BUY THE GAME, then play it all the way through.



  • @DCRoss said:

    I think you're confused there.  That was a book, not a movie.  Why would anyone ever try to make a movie of "The Postman"?  That would be like making a sequel to "Highlander".  Or "Aliens".  Or "Starship Troopers".  Or films based on video games like "Postal" or "Bloodrayne".

    Oh come on. The Postman isn't that bad. In fact it had a lot of good scenes in it-- it was just about a half hour too long.



  • So anyway, I generally don't go for RPGs, but I love the GTA series. Should I give Fallout a try? Also, will 3 run on my newish laptop, or is it one of those games that's only playable on a super-wizzy high-end gaming system with case cut-outs and glowing LEDs? My gamepad died a couple of days ago as well, so should I wait until it's been replaced or is it all mouse and keyboard driven?



  • @intertravel said:

    So anyway, I generally don't go for RPGs, but I love the GTA series. Should I give Fallout a try? Also, will 3 run on my newish laptop, or is it one of those games that's only playable on a super-wizzy high-end gaming system with case cut-outs and glowing LEDs? My gamepad died a couple of days ago as well, so should I wait until it's been replaced or is it all mouse and keyboard driven?

    If you want to play primarily using VATS and don't care about shitty fan-made mods, I think the Xbox 360 version is the way to go. The Windows version is actually pretty glitchy and quirky in comparison. (In New Vegas on Windows get a HUUUGE framedrop into the single digits whenever triggering VATS, while the camera is zooming-in... I have no idea what causes this, the decidedly-inferior hardware in the Xbox 360 has no problem animating that effect in Fallout 3.)

    Hardware-wise, you're probably fine unless you bought a really cheap laptop. And my general advice is, if you've liked any of the previous Fallout games, or enjoyed Oblivion, you'll probably like Fallout 3 and Fallout New Vegas. (Which for some reason is not considered "Fallout 4", even though it's an entirely new game. Weird.)



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Oh come on. The Postman isn't that bad.
     

    Total cost: $80,000,000

    Worldwide theater gross: $17,600,000

    Net losses (actual): $62,400,000

    Some people obviously disagree. 



  • @DCRoss said:

    Or "Starship Troopers". 

    In Starship Troopers 3: Maruader, they finially get Power Armor.

     Guy named Johnny Rico (1), fighting bugs (2), in power armor (3). That's 50% more things in common with the book then the previous movies!



  • In New Vegas on Windows get a HUUUGE framedrop into the single digits whenever triggering VATS, while the camera is zooming-in... I have no idea what causes this, the decidedly-inferior hardware in the Xbox 360 has no problem animating that effect in Fallout 3.

    While I, on the other hand, get a skyrocketing framerate while the game is paused because being quite an old engine most of the logic is still poorly multithreaded.



  • @cdosrun said:

    In Starship Troopers 3: Maruader, they finially get Power Armor.

     Guy named Johnny Rico (1), fighting bugs (2), in power armor (3). That's 50% more things in common with the book then the previous movies!

     

    Wow.  It's almost like somebody read the book.

    I never saw that coming.

     



  • @El_Heffe said:

    Total cost: $80,000,000

    Worldwide theater gross: $17,600,000

    Net losses (actual): $62,400,000

    Some people obviously disagree.

    Jesus. I'm not saying it's a great movie, nor am I saying that it made a profit, nor am I saying that I'd buy it on DVD for $10 if you offered it to me right now.

    All I'm saying is that it's not that bad, and a good editor with a big pair of scissors could have fixed most of its problems.

    AM I ALLOWED TO HOLD THAT POSITION? Or is the apparently huge "everybody must believe The Postman is shit" lobby going to have me killed in my sleep? Because if that's the case, no half-measures! Shoot me right now and get it over with! I dislike the movie, BUT I DON'T DISLIKE IT ENOUGH!

    (Actually, your post reminds me of this Mitchell and Webb skit, so it's not entirely useless.

    @nexekho said:

    In New Vegas on Windows get a HUUUGE framedrop into the single digits whenever triggering VATS, while the camera is zooming-in... I have no idea what causes this, the decidedly-inferior hardware in the Xbox 360 has no problem animating that effect in Fallout 3.

    While I, on the other hand, get a skyrocketing framerate while the game is paused because being quite an old engine most of the logic is still poorly multithreaded.

    My gripe is that it works correctly on Xbox, and fails to work on a significantly faster, better, and more-core-having desktop PC.



  • @intertravel said:

    I generally don't go for RPGs, but I love the GTA series. Should I give Fallout a try?
     

    To me, Fallout has the perfect balance of a WoW- or Lineage-like RPG system that's not too complex, and plain walking around shootin', like in an F or TPS.

    Don't compare it to GTA, though. That's really not a comparison that'll stand beyond "big 3D gameworld and also shooting." For one thing, all GTA's since III are ass ugly now.

    @intertravel said:

    Also, will 3 run on my newish laptop

    F3 is not that new. It'll be fine.

    @intertravel said:

    My gamepad died a couple of days ago as well, so should I wait until it's been replaced or is it all mouse and keyboard driven?

    It plays perfectly fine with mouse & keyboard. Some controls are not remappable, but hardly a worry.



  • @DCRoss said:

    That would be like making a sequel to "Highlander".  Or "Aliens".  Or "Starship Troopers".  Or films based on video games like "Postal" or "Bloodrayne".

    Not going to happen.  At least not while I have access to a time machine and a hypo full of sulfa drugs.

     

    The Alien movies were OK because they were different types of movies. Alien was a horror movie; Aliens was a  war movie; Alien 3, well, I'm not sure what I'd class that as, I think the closest would be aroad movie; Alien Resurrection was a black comedy. Rather than "sequels" theywere "different stories about the same characters".

    As for the others, well, do you need a hand in your time machine? And can I recommend a pistol full of bullets rather than a hypo full of drugs, at least as far as Mr Boll's movies are concerned?

     



  • @dhromed said:

    Don't compare it to GTA, though. That's really not a comparison that'll stand beyond "big 3D gameworld and also shooting." For one thing, all GTA's since III are ass ugly now.
    Well, I wouldn't disagree, but I don't particularly care about 'ugly' either. If GTA is about my limit for RPGness, does that mean Fallout's going to be too much?



  • @intertravel said:

    @dhromed said:
    Don't compare it to GTA, though. That's really not a comparison that'll stand beyond "big 3D gameworld and also shooting." For one thing, all GTA's since III are ass ugly now.
    Well, I wouldn't disagree, but I don't particularly care about 'ugly' either. If GTA is about my limit for RPGness, does that mean Fallout's going to be too much?

    Jesus just buy the game. I've bought CARS with less consideration.



  •  @blakeyrat said:

    @intertravel said:
    @dhromed said:
    Don't compare it to GTA, though. That's really not a comparison that'll stand beyond "big 3D gameworld and also shooting." For one thing, all GTA's since III are ass ugly now.
    Well, I wouldn't disagree, but I don't particularly care about 'ugly' either. If GTA is about my limit for RPGness, does that mean Fallout's going to be too much?

    Jesus just buy the game. I've bought CARS with less consideration.

    Exactly, and it only costs 6$ and has NO DRM!!! http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/fallout_2


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    @blakeyrat said:

    honestly I'm starting to think New Vegas is a better game than Fallout 3, although it's a really close call. I can't imagine why dhromed got bored of New Vegas.
    I got bored of it about the time I got to McCarren. I got jarred out because I was able to break sequence several times leading up to that area.

    One of them, I went and killed a buttload of raiders before going to the airport - and people at the airport were still talking like their leader was alive, despite the fact that I had most certainly killed the shit out of him - the other ones were less jarring)

    Another, I broke sequence HORRIBLY with that one village that's overrun by the dudes (south of the NCR camp I believe).

    I also broke it with regard to the sidequest with the family with the bomb necklaces.

     

    It should be noted I wasn't trying to break sequence - I was just acting in character.

     

    I might pick it back up after I finish AssCreedBro (which I also got bored of, and just picked up again a few days ago)



  • [quote user="Renan "C#" Sousa"]I play stuff on Dos Box (I specially LOVE the X-Com series)[/quote]
    Yay! Another X-Com fan 🙂



  • @BlackMan890 said:

    Exactly, and it only costs 6$ and has NO DRM!!!
     

    Fallout 3.



  • @intertravel said:

    If GTA is about my limit for RPGness, does that mean Fallout's going to be too much?
     

    GTA has no RPGness at all. San Andreas had stats for skils with weapons and driving, and muscle strength, but it can hardly be called RPG.

    @intertravel said:

    I don't particularly care about 'ugly'

    😮 😮 😮

    As Blakarkat would say: We can never be friends.



  • @Weng said:

    I might pick it back up after I finish AssCreedBro (which I also got bored of, and just picked up again a few days ago)
    Getting 100% sync is hard.

    I'm a Ubisoft whore, BTW: Myst games, Prince of Persia games,  Beyond Good & Evil, Assassin's Creed games, ...

    It helps that I favour platforming games.



  • What I like about Assassin's Creed is that it is educational.

     

     

    If you were a notorious criminal in Renaissance Rome, one way to lower your notoriety was to kill a witness among passersby in broad daylight. Who would have guessed?


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