Kim Jong HTML



  • On a whim, I was exploring the North Korean Central News Agency's web site at [url]http://175.45.179.68/English.htm[/url]. (It's a DPRK ip, so it looks to be the real thing.)

    Of course, there are the wonderful news tidbits such as the following long-winded sentence:

    The speakers said that the firework galas would be a festival of glory in glorifying the long history and immortal exploits of the party and a grand canvas of victory stirring up the pride and self-esteem of the service persons and people of the DPRK working fresh miracles and exploits in the era of Songun as befitting the descendants of President Kim Il Sung.

    But I also noticed that some of the pages, especially [url="http://175.45.179.68/English/Economical/Science.htm"]this "science/technology" page[/url] which is nothing more than 750 identically formatted internal links and a simple header, were loading less than instantaneously over a semi-decent internet connection. Apparently, this list of items is about 300 kB -- 50 kB of pictures and 250 of HTML.

    You see, someone felt the need to explicitly declare the formatting of [b]every single line[/b] of the 750 elements on the page. I give you a small example:

    [code]<font color="#0000FF" size="3">741.[/code]
    [code]
    </font> [/code]
    [code]
    <font face="Arial">Pyongyang Optical Center[/code]
    [code]
    </font>
    [/code]
    [code]

    <font color="#0000FF" size="3">742.[/code]
    [code] </font> [/code]
    [code] <font face="Arial">Phyongchon College of Technology[/code]
    [code] </font>
    [/code]
    [code] <font color="#0000FF" size="3">743.[/code]
    [code] </font> [/code]
    [code] <font face="Arial">New Protein Feed Resources Available in DPRK[/code]
    [code] </font>
    [/code]

    Insert "______ Korea is best Korea" joke here.


  •  We need to start a pool on how long it takes before Anonymous or some similar group causes an international incident by blowing the DPRK back off the internet.

     If that passes for North Korean HTML, I'd hate to imagine what passes for North Korean network security. 





  • @North Bus said:

    On a whim, I was exploring the North Korean Central News Agency's web site at http://175.45.179.68/English.htm. (It's a DPRK ip, so it looks to be the real thing.)

    Of course, there are the wonderful news tidbits such as the following long-winded sentence:

    The speakers said that the firework galas would be a festival of glory in glorifying the long history and immortal exploits of the party and a grand canvas of victory stirring up the pride and self-esteem of the service persons and people of the DPRK working fresh miracles and exploits in the era of Songun as befitting the descendants of President Kim Il Sung.

    But I also noticed that some of the pages, especially this "science/technology" page which is nothing more than 750 identically formatted internal links and a simple header, were loading less than instantaneously over a semi-decent internet connection. Apparently, this list of items is about 300 kB -- 50 kB of pictures and 250 of HTML.

    You see, someone felt the need to explicitly declare the formatting of every single line of the 750 elements on the page. I give you a small example:

    <font face="Lucida Console" size="2"><tr><td align="right" valign="top" height="12" width="50"><font color="#0000FF" size="3">741.</font>
    <font face="Lucida Console" size="2">
    </font></td><td valign="top" width="450" height="12"><a href="Science\news741.htm"> </font>
    <font face="Lucida Console" size="2">
    <font face="Arial">Pyongyang Optical Center</font>
    <font face="Lucida Console" size="2">
    </font></a></td></tr> </font>
    <font face="Lucida Console" size="2">
    <tr><td align="right" valign="top" height="12" width="50"><font color="#0000FF" size="3">742.</font>
    <font face="Lucida Console" size="2">
    </font></td><td valign="top" width="450" height="12"><a href="Science\news742.htm"> </font>
    <font face="Lucida Console" size="2">
    <font face="Arial">Phyongchon College of Technology</font>
    <font face="Lucida Console" size="2">
    </font></a></td></tr> </font>
    <font face="Lucida Console" size="2">
    <tr><td align="right" valign="top" height="12" width="50"><font color="#0000FF" size="3">743.</font>
    <font face="Lucida Console" size="2">
    </font></td><td valign="top" width="450" height="12"><a href="Science\news743.htm"> </font>
    <font face="Lucida Console" size="2">
    <font face="Arial">New Protein Feed Resources Available in DPRK</font>
    <font face="Lucida Console" size="2">
    </font></a></td></tr></font>

    Insert "______ Korea is best Korea" joke here.

    That's the kind of efficiency that's made North Korea the food production and industrial powerhouse it is today! Why, I read in the newspaper just a couple days ago, that only 1/3rd of its children are permanently stunted due to malnutrition. And they've gone from having the world's highest percentage of avoidable blindness to having ... still the world's highest percentage of avoidable blindness!

    Seriously, I don't think North Korea is funny. Sorry.



  • @North Bus said:

    You see, someone felt the need to explicitly declare the formatting of every single line of the 750 elements on the page.

    You never saw the actual HTML output of a tool like Dreamweaver, huh? They tend to be just as bad and redundant.



  • I agree. This looks like the result of a generator. But the newer versions of the Dreamweaver produce pretty good code if you know what you're doing. If you're using it as a replacement for MS Word... well, OP showed us the result.



  • @C4I_Officer said:

    @North Bus said:
    You see, someone felt the need to explicitly declare the formatting of every single line of the 750 elements on the page.

    You never saw the actual HTML output of a tool like Dreamweaver, huh? They tend to be just as bad and redundant.

    And redundantly bad, over and over, until it's not quite good.



  • This isn't even really a WTF... this code is client-side ugly, but probably generated from a database, and that could be nice code and still generate this very homogeneous, verbose formatting code.



  • All that Kim-HTM-IL for a bunch of dead links. (A least the 10 or so I checked.)



  • Hah. It's IIS.

    Don't the US government forbid the sale of software to DPRK? So it's pirated IIS?



  • @jasmine2501 said:

    This isn't even really a WTF... this code is client-side ugly, but probably generated from a database, and that could be nice code and still generate this very homogeneous, verbose formatting code.
    True. I guess they will never really have to worry about server load from an inefficient site, regardless of how poor the client-side code turns out.

    Unless we can slashdot the DPRK. But that could get ugly.



  • @growse said:

    Hah. It's IIS.

    Don't the US government forbid the sale of software to DPRK? So it's pirated IIS?

    Well duhh, it's [i]closed[/i] software.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Seriously, I don't think North Korea is funny. Sorry.
    I totally and sadly agree with that... even sarcasm cannot ease such an absurd political disaster.

    @C4I_Officer said:

    You never saw the actual HTML output of a tool like Dreamweaver, huh? They tend to be just as bad and redundant.
    Not necessarily though... DPRK is precisely one of the few places in the world where such a mess can have been hand-written... yuck



  • @growse said:

    Hah. It's IIS.

    Don't the US government forbid the [u]sale[/u] of software to DPRK? So it's pirated IIS?

    For some reason I can't quite imagine a bunch of NK officials proudly walking into an American software store, and saying "Good afternood there my good sir, we'd like to license ourselves some IIS! Would you be able to assist us in this mutually beneficial commercial endeavor? Also, could you please inform us of the available upgrade, support and eventual training courses that your company might offer us contractually? Do you accept MasterCard BTW?".



  • @North Bus said:

    <FONT face="Lucida Console" size=2>New Protein Feed Resources Available in DPRK</FONT>

    Does that mean they built a Soylent Green factory?



  • @C4I_Officer said:

    @growse said:
    Hah. It's IIS.

    Don't the US government forbid the sale of software to DPRK? So it's pirated IIS?

    For some reason I can't quite imagine a bunch of NK officials proudly walking into an American software store, and saying "Good afternood there my good sir, we'd like to license ourselves some IIS! Would you be able to assist us in this mutually beneficial commercial endeavor? Also, could you please inform us of the available upgrade, support and eventual training courses that your company might offer us contractually? Do you accept MasterCard BTW?".

    You don't think Communists would send too many people and demand lots of paperwork and follow-up for a simple task? I think that's exactly what they do.

    The site might not be hosted in North Korea, but it does kinda look like it is.



  • @TehFreek said:

     And redundantly bad, over and over, until it's not quite good.

    Made my day 🙂


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