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  • OK - so I know it's only a minor typo and not much of a WTF - but one would have thought that if you're going to advertise on this site, you'd check your text a little more carefully...



  • I don't see the WTF.


    Literally.


    Edit: I see it now, Iron's adblock feature sucks.



  • @derula said:

    Iron's adblock feature sucks.

    OK, I'll bite. The WTF was in a banner ad. … and you've chosen to block ads. … so how can that be Iron's fault? And yes, I use Iron too: it's excellent.

    Well, apart from one annoyance. In my online banking, one is forced to input security-check digits using a dropdown where the textbox part shows a * (for security, you know?) and the dropdown list is 0, 1, 2, … 9. Except that Iron shows the ten digits in the list as * instead of the actual digits. Which one could argue is even more secure, I suppose …



  • @Cad Delworth said:

    OK, I'll bite. The WTF was in a banner ad. … and you've chosen to block ads. … so how can that be Iron's fault?

    It is visible both in Firefox with AdBlock and in Opera with the same fricken adblock list (fanboy's)!



  • @derula said:

    @Cad Delworth said:
    OK, I'll bite. The WTF was in a banner ad. … and you've chosen to block ads. … so how can that be Iron's fault?

    It is visible both in Firefox with AdBlock and in Opera with the same fricken adblock list (fanboy's)!

     

    That's strange - I use Ff with AdBlockPlus and NEVER see banner ads.



  • @Duke of URL said:

    @derula said:
    @Cad Delworth said:
    OK, I'll bite. The WTF was in a banner ad. … and you've chosen to block ads. … so how can that be Iron's fault?

    It is visible both in Firefox with AdBlock and in Opera with the same fricken adblock list (fanboy's)!

     That's strange - I use Ff with AdBlockPlus and NEVER see banner ads.

    I don't see banner ads in FF with ABP either; however, I did see the OP's screencap of a banner ad.



  • @derula said:

    @Duke of URL said:
    @derula said:
    @Cad Delworth said:
    OK, I'll bite. The WTF was in a banner ad. … and you've chosen to block ads. … so how can that be Iron's fault?

    It is visible both in Firefox with AdBlock and in Opera with the same fricken adblock list (fanboy's)!

     That's strange - I use Ff with AdBlockPlus and NEVER see banner ads.

    I don't see banner ads in FF with ABP either; however, I did see the OP's screencap of a banner ad.

    This gives me an idea for punishing you ad-blocking assholes.



  • Blakeyrat's Law: Any discussion of an ad quickly devolves into a discussion of ad-blockers.

    I just made that up, but you know, spread it around. It happens all the time on Slashdot and most other forums I frequent also.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Blakeyrat's Law: Any discussion of an ad quickly devolves into a discussion of ad-blockers.

    MorbiusWilters' Corollary: After 10 dickwads chime in with "zomg I didn't even know there was an ad there because I use AdBlockProPlusPremium" somebody (probably MorbiusWilters) will flame them all for being little, unethical shits.  The retorts will fall into one of the following categories:

    • "I wouldn't buy anything anyway [presumably because I have no money and I'm using the free Internet at the public library in-between my weekly shit, my weekly jerk-off to large-format books of nude impressionist paintings and my weekly sink-bath] so blocking the ads makes no difference."
    • "I already paid for the Internet connection, so I shouldn't have to see ads!"
    • "I know that I'm basically depriving content providers of revenue, possibly driving them out of business and making the Internet even lamer than it already is, but I don't care because I am a sociopathic asshole.  I also like to pour lighter fluid onto stray dogs and throw a match at them so I can watch them slowly burn to an agonizing death.  Then I masturbate onto the charred corpse.  Oh, and I'm going to use even more of your resources to post this comment because I can't wait for the day when the only original content available on the web is at Cracked.com.  Remember: I'm a sociopathic asshole."



  •  MorbuisWilters' Corollary lacks a certain punch.



  • @blakeyrat said:

     MorbuisWilters' Corollary lacks a certain punch.

    It's not here yet, the technology which allows morbius to punch — through the internet— the dickwads who block ads and those people who don't spell his name right.
    EDIT: That came out wrong; I wasn't trying to imply you were a dickwad. FTFM



  • @blakeyrat said:

    MorbuisWilters' Corollary lacks a certain punch.

    You know what doesn't lack a certain punch?

     

    Your dick.  After I'm through with it.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Filed
    under: That's not gay. I mean I'm going to punch you in the dick.
    Out of anger. Hard. Not erotically-hard. Anger-hard.
     

    Methinks he doth protest too much.

    One could argue that blocking banner ads will encourage (and viewing them will discourage) the development of other, more palatable, ways of funding websites, such as micropayments.

    (Yes, that's not perfect either because some people will choose not to pay. But doesn't the banner ad paradigm have the same problem due to us heinous adblockers?)

     

     



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    I am a sociopathic asshole.  I also like to pour lighter fluid onto stray dogs and throw a match at them so I can watch them slowly burn to an agonizing death.  Then I masturbate onto the charred corpse.
     

    Are you saying we shouldn't do this?  What about stray cats then?  Or stray babies?



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    • "I know that I'm basically depriving content providers of revenue, possibly driving them out of business and making the Internet even lamer than it already is, but I don't care because I am a sociopathic asshole.  I also like to pour lighter fluid onto stray dogs and throw a match at them so I can watch them slowly burn to an agonizing death.  Then I masturbate onto the charred corpse.  Oh, and I'm going to use even more of your resources to post this comment because I can't wait for the day when the only original content available on the web is at Cracked.com.  Remember: I'm a sociopathic asshole."

    When the clowns who devise Internet ads. stop making them videos which RUN BY DEFAULT (dammit!), or less likely to make an epileptic have a seizure, or less likely to attempt to inject their fetid toolbar or other garbage malware into my browser and/or OS, then MAYBE just MAYBE it might be time for me to THINK about allowing their dreck into my browser.

    PS: a) Yes I am a sociopath; and b) how did you know about the dog thing? (I really truly HATE dogs: only good for two things: for eating, or for making them do something useful like detect landmines or IEDs.)

    PPS: Which site do I need to block to dump that ungrammatical 'Advanced Technology Of LASER' banner?



  • @Cad Delworth said:

    When the clowns who devise Internet ads. stop making them videos which RUN BY DEFAULT (dammit!), or less likely to make an epileptic have a seizure, or less likely to attempt to inject their fetid toolbar or other garbage malware into my browser and/or OS, then MAYBE just MAYBE it might be time for me to THINK about allowing their dreck into my browser.

    I agree with the runs-by-default video, but that's can be a problem with any Flash.  Also, Flash has a tendency to crash Firefox on Linux so avoiding hundreds of Flash objects loading in the background as I browse greatly reduces the chance of a random crash.  I haven't ever encountered any normal sites with ads that try to install malware.  Certainly not TDWTF.  Of course, porn-n-torrent sites will do that, but what do you expect?

     

    Still, none of those are good reasons for avoiding AdSense-style ads or normal banner ads.  It still makes you an asshole.

     

    @Cad Delworth said:

    PPS: Which site do I need to block to dump that ungrammatical 'Advanced Technology Of LASER' banner?

    If you can't figure that out on your own, you might not belong here.  Of course, if you ban my domain you won't see all of the hilarious things I post.



  • @Paddles said:

    One could argue that blocking banner ads will encourage (and viewing them will discourage) the development of other, more palatable, ways of funding websites, such as micropayments.

    And I suppose shitting on the sidewalk will finally encourage the city council to put up a porta-potty (or at least install a teflon sidewalk for easy cleaning).  But, guess what, dropping a steamer on the corner of 39th and Broadway doesn't make you a fucking folk hero; you're still just a retarded asshat who ruins sidewalks for the rest of us.

     

    Oh, and micropayments blow.  I don't want to pay to read TDWTF, I'd rather spend a few seconds glancing at ads.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    Filed under: Like those night-vision shots of pstorer's house I took from my van.<input name="ctl00$ctl00$bcr$bcr$ctl00$PostList$ctl17$ctl23$ctl01" id="ctl00_ctl00_bcr_bcr_ctl00_PostList_ctl17_ctl23_ctl01_State" value="value:Filed%20under%3A%20%3Ca%20href%3D%22%2Ftags%2FLike%2Bthose%2Bnight-vision%2Bshots%2Bof%2Bpstorer_2700_s%2Bhouse%2BI%2Btook%2Bfrom%2Bmy%2Bvan_2E00_%2Fdefault.aspx%22%20rel%3D%22tag%22%3ELike%20those%20night-vision%20shots%20of%20pstorer's%20house%20I%20took%20from%20my%20van.%3C%2Fa%3E" type="hidden">
     

    Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    ...bad-tempered abuse...

     

     OK, I bit. I just unblocked Daily WTF, in order to see the ads. I should have known better - none of them are relevant to me (prices in dollars, which reveals that the ad-maker couldn't be bothered to check my IP address.

    To tell the truth, I started use ABP because none of the ads served were ever relevant. 

     

    Frankly, MorbidWimp, your arguments don't hold water, and your way of expressing them is a big turn-off.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @Cad Delworth said:

    PPS: Which site do I need to block to dump that ungrammatical 'Advanced Technology Of LASER' banner?

    If you can't figure that out on your own, you might not belong here.  Of course, if you ban my domain you won't see all of the hilarious things I post.

    Hmm … looks like your Irony and Sarcasm detection module has switched itself off again, old bean!

    And, unless AdBlock is more advanced than I realised, how would blocking your domain 'hide' your posts in this Forum? (ducks for cover)



  • @Cad Delworth said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    @Cad Delworth said:
    PPS: Which site do I need to block to dump that ungrammatical 'Advanced Technology Of LASER' banner?
    If you can't figure that out on your own, you might not belong here.  Of course, if you ban my domain you won't see all of the hilarious things I post.

    Hmm … looks like your Irony and Sarcasm detection module has switched itself off again, old bean!

    And, unless AdBlock is more advanced than I realised, how would blocking your domain 'hide' your posts in this Forum? (ducks for cover)

    Wonder whose sarcasm detector is broken here...

    ...probably mine.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    I haven't ever encountered any normal sites with ads that try to install malware.
    I have - a few years ago one of the big AD providers was hacked (according to them), so a ton of legit sites started offering drive-by-downloads.



  • @GreyWolf said:

    I should have known better - none of them are relevant to me (prices in dollars, which reveals that the ad-maker couldn't be bothered to check my IP address.

    Right, because every ad site should look at your IP and convert to bags of rice or chickens or whatever the hell it is you third-worlders barter with.

     

    @GreyWolf said:

    Frankly, MorbidWimp, your arguments don't hold water, and your way of expressing them is a big turn-off.

    Waaahh!!  Seriously, you are retarded.  Ads pay for the content you are taking.  Taking said content while blocking the ads violates the social contract that is implicit in ad-supported content.  You are depriving sites of revenue while greedily sucking down the goods they provide.  That makes you an unethical asshole.  If you're okay with being an anti-social little prick, fine, but don't try to pretend you aren't taking without upholding your end of the deal.   And don't play dumb and try to argue away any ethical responsibility on your part, as if the standard doesn't apply to little old you.



  • @ender said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    I haven't ever encountered any normal sites with ads that try to install malware.
    I have - a few years ago one of the big AD providers was hacked (according to them), so a ton of legit sites started offering drive-by-downloads.

    Alright, so on very rare occasions legit sites might serve up malware.  Of course, that could happen just as easily without ads.  Still, it's not an argument in favor of stiffing every content provider out of revenue.  And it falls on deaf ears when so many people who block ads will turn around and happily take a much bigger chance of malware infection by downloading pirated content.



  • @Cad Delworth said:

    Hmm … looks like your Irony and Sarcasm detection module has switched itself off again, old bean!

    You clearly don't understand the definition of irony.  Even under the U.N.'s Alanis Morissette Safe Harbor Provision, nothing you said was ironic.  And if that was sarcasm, it was really, really misguided on your part.

     

    @Cad Delworth said:

    And, unless AdBlock is more advanced than I realised, how would blocking your domain 'hide' your posts in this Forum? (ducks for cover)

    You should probably get used to the fact that around here punchlines are often embedded in the tags.



  • @morbiuswilters said:

    @ender said:

    @morbiuswilters said:
    I haven't ever encountered any normal sites with ads that try to install malware.
    I have - a few years ago one of the big AD providers was hacked (according to them), so a ton of legit sites started offering drive-by-downloads.

    Alright, so on very rare occasions legit sites might serve up malware.  Of course, that could happen just as easily without ads.  Still, it's not an argument in favor of stiffing every content provider out of revenue.  And it falls on deaf ears when so many people who block ads will turn around and happily take a much bigger chance of malware infection by downloading pirated content.

     

    Morb if you want more ammo, point out that the most popular ad blocking package, AdBlock Pro for Firefox, only has a mode where it blocks ads on all sites except whitelisted ones. It has no mode that allows ads on all sites except blacklisted ones. I take that as proof-positive that no ad blockers really give a shit about only blocking annoying ads... if they did, there'd probably be a mode in the software that let you do that, right? Right now it blocks all, or nothing. (And believe me, if it had a mode where I could just block ads on, say, dailymotion.com and no other sites, I'd love that.)

    (Also reminds me of the Napster debate, when the Napster was trying to argue that the purpose of the software was to find new music you might really like not to steal music, and Lars Ulrich asked, "then how come you have to already know the name or artist before you can download the song?" Slam dunk.)



  • @GreyWolf said:

    To tell the truth, I started use ABP because none of the ads served were ever relevant. 
     

    For some constructive criticism of the ads:

    I would like to see ads other than software and services for IT folk*, but also for consumables that nerds might like, such as games, SF books, programming books and the like.The current offering is rather limited in category.

    I remember I bought Banks' Matter directly due to an ad on the front page.

     

     

    *) that I'll never use.



  •  

    Filed under: Just like you'll have to get used to the fact that around here glass dildos are often embedded in dhromed.<input name="ctl00$ctl00$bcr$bcr$ctl00$PostList$ctl26$ctl23$ctl01" id="ctl00_ctl00_bcr_bcr_ctl00_PostList_ctl26_ctl23_ctl01_State" value="value:Filed%20under%3A%20%3Ca%20href%3D%22%2Ftags%2FJust%2Blike%2Byou_2700_ll%2Bhave%2Bto%2Bget%2Bused%2Bto%2Bthe%2Bfact%2Bthat%2Baround%2Bhere%2Bglass%2Bdildos%2Bare%2Boften%2Bembedded%2Bin%2Bdhromed_2E00_%2Fdefault.aspx%22%20rel%3D%22tag%22%3EJust%20like%20you'll%20have%20to%20get%20used%20to%20the%20fact%20that%20around%20here%20glass%20dildos%20are%20often%20embedded%20in%20dhromed.%3C%2Fa%3E" type="hidden">

    They're just so nice and hard.

    And when you're hot, a slightly cool surface is often tittilatingly comfortable.



  • @Paddles said:

    One could argue that blocking banner ads will encourage (and viewing them will discourage) the development of other, more palatable, ways of funding websites, such as micropayments.
    Do you really think ad blockers would pay micropayments?  

    "You cannot view today's article without paying ten cents.  Never mind that someone already paid the ten cents and has posted the article over on TDWTFHacked.com.  Have a good day."



  • @belgariontheking said:

    Do you really think ad blockers would pay micropayments?


    I don't suppose they will, given the choice (anyone know how the subscription modes is working out for the Wall Street Journal?).

    I have to wonder what some people think would happen if a person who uses an ad blocker did see an advert on a web site. I suspect that he might fiddle with the settings on his ad blocker. He might rearrange his desktop to hide the ad, or simply ignore it. What he won't do is read the ad, click on the ad, wait for the page it links to to appear and then buy something. He's gone to some trouble to prevent this from happening.

    Because of this, any effort on the part of the web site owner to show them to him (say, not putting them in an /ads/ directory) is a waste of time.

    The owner will still want him to visit the site, as 5000 visitors per day is better than 4999 when you're negotiating with advertisers. He's going to drag down the click through rate a little, but so are all the thousands of other people who see the adverts but don't buy anything.


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