Send them Spam!! They want it!



  • Hey all,
    Has anyone heard of the spammail project? a href="http://www.spammail.ca>www.spammail.ca I cant figure out if they want people to send them their spam or sign them up for spam. Also I wonder if they are going to resell the email addys they receive or it truely is a legitimate reason to collect spam. Does anyone know what type of scipt they may be using to query their inbox? It would be quite sweet if I could display the number of messages I have in my inbox as plain text on my own page rather than having to login through web mail. Maybe someone can explain some of this too me...


    -Sin



  • As for reading mail status, look into the pop3 rfcs.  I have quickly made a mail reader with php (cue php is dumb reply) that could show what is in the in box, and read the message details.



  • i read about a loser one time in a Wall Street Journal article about the economics of spam.  not only did this guy not mind spam, he relished it, kind of like a retard or a little kid tearing through junk mail. He also bought a lot of things and responded to spam.

    Turns out, the economics of SPAM are like so, Just one loser like that makes up for the other 100,000 non retards who hate spam. 

    I wish I could send a link but the WSJ charges for that shit. [:@]



  • Spam Sandwich

    @AlpineR said:

    really wonder where's the profit in those spams that give stock tips or offer mortgage refinancing. Have those ploys ever worked? Maybe once, but I doubt the copycats have much success.
    .

    I haven't read a lot about the spam industry lately but here's what i gather, 1) new laws have made it harder to make money that way, 2) the big league spammers have gone offshore to avoid said laws, 3) the "cottage spammers", AKA "Losers" that you describe who use home spambot kits and that kind of crap, it is becoming easier to filter them out through better junk mail filtering.  Thank goodness (has anybody gotten anything OTHER than spam from prodigy lately?....)

    Even the free email accounts like Yahoo have pretty good filtering now. 

    Also, if you ask for it it's not really SPAM.  Many's the time when I thought, "sure I'll get your newsletter", then wondered why I ever did [*-)]

     



  • @ogilmor said:

    @AlpineR said:

    really wonder where's
    the profit in those spams that give stock tips or offer mortgage
    refinancing. Have those ploys ever worked? Maybe once, but I doubt the
    copycats have much success.
    .

    I haven't read a lot about the spam industry lately but here's what i gather, 1) new laws have made it harder to make money that way, 2) the big league spammers have gone offshore to avoid said laws, 3) the "cottage spammers", AKA "Losers" that you describe who use home spambot kits and that kind of crap, it is becoming easier to filter them out through better junk mail filtering.  Thank goodness (has anybody gotten anything OTHER than spam from prodigy lately?....)

    Even the free email accounts like Yahoo have pretty good filtering now. 

    Also, if you ask for it it's not really SPAM.  Many's the time when I thought, "sure I'll get your newsletter", then wondered why I ever did [*-)]

     



    Oh dear, something I actually know something about. I handle abuse desk for a fairly large email service provider.

    Stock tips are pump and dump scams. There are enough gullible people who buy such stock.

    Mortgage leads are _big_ business. I know someone who seeds such spams with false names and addresses, but his own phone number. He gets about 5 to 6 calls every day offering mortgages.

    The big spammers are using zombies to send their spam. They haven't gone out of business, just out of your inbox. That doesn't help much on the server side of the business.

    Oh, and if you asked for it, it is not spam by any stretch of the word. Spam is Unsolicited Bulk Email (or Messaging if you prefer).  If it isn't Unsolicited, it isn't spam. If it isn't bulk, it isn't spam.

    SPAM is (tm) Hormel.


  • It appears that they have heard of this post as they are thanking the Daily WTF on their main page. They revamped it and helped too clarify things. I personally would be very interested in seeing what kind of volume their servers are doing and what kind of hardware its running on. I know it sounds like a dumb question but how many messages an hour would the average mail server in a corporate environment handle hourly? 500 messages sounds kinda weak; the average corporation must handle that every 10 mins am I wrong?


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