Who the f*ck came up with this idea?



  • I am not a tech geek, I don't keep up with the latest and greatest 3g phones on the market.  I know the iPhone has some great features, but that's about it.  I recently heard of the new Palm Pre that is coming out so I decided to take a look (since I'm on Sprint and can't get anything else).  What I found was possibly the worst web site that I, personally, have ever seen.

     
    Sprint's web site

    The site a complete cluster fuck of images.  Not only did they decide on a completely stupid layout, they have made the page HUGE with no scroll bars.  Instead, in order to navitate through the page you move your mouse close to the right or bottom of the browser and it will slowly scroll for you, at a snails pace.  Lovely.

    Just in case they decide to fix this pile of shit (which I doubt), here is a pic.

    Palm Pre Site



  • WTFs I see:

    1. That website. Dear God...
    2. Not using the word "fuck" in the title even though it is implied. Seriously, what the fuck? The site you're posting on has "fuck" right in the title. What, are you too good to spell the word properly?
    3. All that shit you have in Firefox. There's like 150 pixels of vertical space you're wasting with too-tall toolbars and unnecessary toolbars.
    4. A ridiculous number of open tabs. Seriously.


  • Your screenshot does nothing to describe the face melt that happens when the entire page is animated the way it is. The non-Flash version is much better; a blank page. phew



  • @TarquinWJ said:

    Your screenshot does nothing to describe the face melt that happens when the entire page is animated the way it is. The non-Flash version is much better; a blank page. phew
    The numbers it's showing are BS, too. They're not even trying. I loaded the page, took note of a few of the ever-increasing numbers, then loaded it again. The numbers went back to where they were when they started the first time. At the very least the numbers should always be higher every time you load the page. This thing is just plain fail.



  • Is it some kind of parody?



  • "Filed under: except Homestarrunner.com, Flash sites are almost always made of pure fail"

    Homestarrunner.com, to its credit, is made of only partial fail.

    How come the Flash pane is fixed at 550x400 pixels, instead of expanding to fit the size of my browser window?  We're not all browsing at 640x480 fullscreen anymore.

     



  • @Welbog said:

    WTFs I see:
    You missed the use of adblock, and a million other FF addons.

    Personally, I don't need to know the current weather right on my browser.  If I want to know the weather, I go to weather.com or go the fuck outside.



  •  Oh god I think my browser is about to kill itself.

     I just took a peek at firebugs "Net" panel with that site open... that was a mistake.



  •  WHAT THE.. F.. OH WHAT... FUCK WHAT? What is this horrible thing? DEATH TO ITS INSTIGATORS. DEATH BY KNIVES.



  • @Rootbeer said:

    Homestarrunner.com, to its credit, is made of only partial fail.

    How come the Flash pane is fixed at 550x400 pixels, instead of expanding to fit the size of my browser window? 

     

    There's a Firefox add-on that makes The Homestarruner's pages display full screen.  Without it, well, why live?

     

     



  • Nothing some napalm wont fix...



  • @Welbog said:

    Not using the word "fuck" in the title even though it is implied. Seriously, what the fuck? The site you're posting on has "fuck" right in the title. What, are you too good to spell the word properly?

       

       Eh <shrug />  No, the site has the word fuck implied in the title, it's not spelled outright.

      @Welbog said:

      All that shit you have in Firefox. There's like 150 pixels of
      vertical space you're wasting with too-tall toolbars and unnecessary
      toolbars.

       Oh noes, I'm missing 150 pixels of space on my 21 inch screen... the humanity!

      @Welbog said:

      A ridiculous number of open tabs. Seriously.

      Bah, my co-worker has currently 148 tabs open in his FF3.  Now that is rediculous, I only have 14 open.  Somebody had the great idea of multiple tabs, why not use them?



    1. @belgariontheking said:

      You missed the use of adblock, and a million other FF addons.

      Personally,
      I don't need to know the current weather right on my browser.  If I
      want to know the weather, I go to weather.com or go the fuck outside.

       

      Is there something wrong with running Adblock and NoScript?  You have an adversion to YSlow, HTMLTidy and FireBug for developers?  Well, maybe it's time you turned in your 8086 and upgraded your computer because mine has no problem running FF3 with all of the addons that I have. 



    2. @amischiefr said:

      Bah, my co-worker has currently 148 tabs open in his FF3.  Now that is rediculous, I only have 14 open.  Somebody had the great idea of multiple tabs, why not use them?
      Tabs are a bad idea and you should feel bad for using them.



    3. @Welbog said:

      @amischiefr said:
      Bah, my co-worker has currently 148 tabs open in his FF3.  Now that is rediculous, I only have 14 open.  Somebody had the great idea of multiple tabs, why not use them?
      Tabs are a bad idea and you should feel bad for using them.
      What's the 3rd alternative then (the second being a task bar/switcher window with lots of icons in it?)

       



    4. @Welbog said:

      Tabs are a bad idea and you should feel bad for using them.
      ...writes Weblog in his tdwtf tab... :)



    5. @PJH said:

      @Welbog said:
      @amischiefr said:
      Bah, my co-worker has currently 148 tabs open in his FF3.  Now that is rediculous, I only have 14 open.  Somebody had the great idea of multiple tabs, why not use them?
      Tabs are a bad idea and you should feel bad for using them.
      What's the 3rd alternative then (the second being a task bar/switcher window with lots of icons in it?)
      My alternative to tabs is to not use tabs. That's not that hard to understand, is it? A window manager exists to manage windows. Tabs are just windows that aren't managed properly. Nerfed, castrated windows.



    6. @amischiefr said:

      Is there something wrong with running Adblock and NoScript?
      No problem with noscript.  I use it, personally.  Adblock is a different story, for all the reasons that have been presented on this site a million times.  Seriously, go count them.  It's a million.

      I didn't say they would slow your machine down, I just see most of them as useless, like the weather one.



    7. Oh dear god. It's as if they sent out a "request for website feature suggestions" email and accidentally CCed in the entire executive staff, and there then too terrified to reject any of the batshit insane suggestions.

      I can't think of any other vaguely plausible suggestion outside of clinical insanity.



    8. @Welbog said:

      Tabs are a bad idea and you should feel bad for using them.
       

      You have to use tabs unless you have one of those good systems that lets you switch screens without using a #$@% mouse.

      alt-F1, alt-F4, alt-F1 ...  truely The Good Life.

       



    9. @squeem said:

      You have to use tabs unless you have one of those good systems that lets you switch screens without using a #$@% mouse.
      I don't have any idea what you just wrote. Are you talking about alt+tab?



    10. @Welbog said:

      @squeem said:

      You have to use tabs unless you have one of those good systems that lets you switch screens without using a #$@% mouse.
      I don't have any idea what you just wrote. Are you talking about alt+tab?

      No.  He's not.  Alt+tab switches the current active application.  This switches the desktop - as if you had multiple monitors, but only one was actually visible at a time.  Of course, I prefer to link in Alt+cursor to move between them - otherwise, one finds oneself limited by the number of keys on the keyboard.

      That having been said, I find the performance improvements of tabs to be fairly useful as well - a tab takes less memory than a window.  It also seems to me that tabs which are not visible use less CPU/GPU than windows which are 100% occluded or on a virtual desktop which is not being displayed.



    11. @amischiefr said:

      Just in case they decide to fix this pile of shit (which I doubt), here is a pic

      I learned to run NoScript back when I worked at Sprint.  Nuf said.



    12. @Dudehole said:

      Is it some kind of parody?

      I'm not sure anyone *could* parody Sprint's typical web pages.  I mean, their main Sprint.com web pages tend not to be quite so ridiculous, but it seems any time they get a special project that needs its own domain web site, they just go all crazy.



    13. @belgariontheking said:

      You missed the use of adblock, and a million other FF addons.
      What, no Download Statusbar? What shame.



    14. I see a big reference to Twitter in the middle of the screenshot. That explains all, it was made by developers inflicted with terminal ADD.



    15. So I've heard that many people die from the flu...



    16. @PJH said:

      @Welbog said:
      @amischiefr said:
      Bah, my co-worker has currently 148 tabs open in his FF3.  Now that is rediculous, I only have 14 open.  Somebody had the great idea of multiple tabs, why not use them?
      Tabs are a bad idea and you should feel bad for using them.
      What's the 3rd alternative then (the second being a task bar/switcher window with lots of icons in it?)

      Konqueror also offers panes, where each window kinof acts like a tiled MDI. It can also be combined with tabs (each tab contains multiple panes), so you can use whichever you prefer. Personally I don't like it for browsing, but it's nice for FTP.



    17. @amischiefr said:

      Oh noes, I'm missing 150 pixels of space on my 21 inch screen... the humanity!

      TRWTF is that you use large icons and the bookmarks toolbar, even though you only have the default bookmarks.  That's just pointlessly wasting space and it is ugly.  Personally, I despise the web developer toolbar since it is huge, ugly as sin and all the functionality is available through the context menu and keyboard shortcuts.  I suppose it's a matter of taste, but your taste sucks.

       

      @amischiefr said:

      Now that is rediculous, I only have 14 open.

      Of all the useless extensions you've added to Firefox you don't bother with spellcheck?  It was even spelled correctly in the post you were replying to...



    18.  Sprint is still in business?  Maybe they should have a widget with "Number of Sprint Customers" rapidly counting down.



    19. This isn't their website. It's a site to show off "all of the cool
      things you can do with a web enabled phone". It isn't meant to actually
      be used. It's there to show you what you're missing out on by not being
      connected. If you actually go to their website you will see it has a
      vastly different design.

      @Welbog said:

      The numbers it's showing are BS, too. They're not even trying. I loaded
      the page, took note of a few of the ever-increasing numbers, then
      loaded it again. The numbers went back to where they were when they
      started the first time. At the very least the numbers should always be
      higher every time you load the page. This thing is just plain fail.

      Because it is an interactive video. Not a real website.



    20. Magical remote DOS attacks

      Watching this in FireBug, I saw a number of

      http://now.sprint.com/nownetwork/infoScripts2/includes/shim.php?url=http://example.com/full/URL/Here
      And guess what... it triggers remote content. Put any URL you want in there, and the fetch looks like it's coming from Sprint. Remote DOS, anyone?


    21. @morbiuswilters said:

      Sprint is still in business?

      I think ObiWayne said it best:

      @ObiWayneKenobi said:

      The most disheartening thing about this, and all the stories like it, is that [b]the company remains in business[/b]. Seriously - I want all these lame-ass, shit companies run by clueless CEOs and owners who want to pretend that they're a business owner to just go away. It's a travesty that all these shitty businesses who cut corners every which way on everything and anything imaginable still manage to flounder around in the business world, or sometimes even turn a profit, instead of just closing up.



    22. @realmerlyn said:

      Watching this in FireBug, I saw a number of

      http://now.sprint.com/nownetwork/infoScripts2/includes/shim.php?url=http://example.com/full/URL/Here
      And guess what... it triggers remote content. Put any URL you want in there, and the fetch looks like it's coming from Sprint. Remote DOS, anyone?

      I noticed that too, I tested it for RFI to see if it was include()ing the file or just print the contents of the page; fortunately it's not using include(), else that would have been the biggest facepalm moment of the month.



    23. @morbiuswilters said:

       Sprint is still in business?  Maybe they should have a widget with "Number of Sprint Customers" rapidly counting down.

       

      Actually, for me, the "Number of calls on Sprint phones" was doing exactly that. Whoops.



    24. @mxsscott said:

      @morbiuswilters said:

       Sprint is still in business?  Maybe they should have a widget with "Number of Sprint Customers" rapidly counting down.

       

      Actually, for me, the "Number of calls on Sprint phones" was doing exactly that. Whoops.

      For me as well.  Maybe they're implying that people are calling less and using data features more?  It still doesn't sound that good..

       

      And the malaria "widget" is just depressing...



    25. You all forget the worst wtf. It's TALKING! (try to connect audio to your computer).

       

       



    26. @Rootbeer said:

      Homestarrunner.com, to its credit, is made of only partial fail.

      How
      come the Flash pane is fixed at 550x400 pixels, instead of expanding to
      fit the size of my browser window?  We're not all browsing at 640x480
      fullscreen anymore.


      Because its a cartoon!  Nobody wants to have to contend with animating for an expandable cartoon frame.

       "but flash uses vectors!"

      Yeah, and the larger those vectors get, the slower they render, not to mention bitmap images (which they use) blur and slow down too.  Having an expandable canvas means all the people who just blindly fullscreen their browsers are going to get really poor performance and wonder why.  Expecting people to resize their browsers to make a flash cartoon playback smoother is silly.  Why arn't you guys complaining about the fact that homestar still runs at 12fps?

      In the animation industry we call it a deliverable spec.  You pick a resolution, a frame rate, colour spec, video codec, compression level, pixel aspect ratio, etc. and you stick to that.



    27. @Soviut said:

      @Rootbeer said:

      Homestarrunner.com, to its credit, is made of only partial fail.

      How
      come the Flash pane is fixed at 550x400 pixels, instead of expanding to
      fit the size of my browser window?  We're not all browsing at 640x480
      fullscreen anymore.


      Because its a cartoon!  Nobody wants to have to contend with animating for an expandable cartoon frame.

       "but flash uses vectors!"

      Yeah, and the larger those vectors get, the slower they render, not to mention bitmap images (which they use) blur and slow down too.  Having an expandable canvas means all the people who just blindly fullscreen their browsers are going to get really poor performance and wonder why.  Expecting people to resize their browsers to make a flash cartoon playback smoother is silly.  Why arn't you guys complaining about the fact that homestar still runs at 12fps?

      In the animation industry we call it a deliverable spec.  You pick a resolution, a frame rate, colour spec, video codec, compression level, pixel aspect ratio, etc. and you stick to that.

      +5, Informative



    28.  This site isn't working for me at all. I just get a Flash error:

       mainLoader.content:null
      TypeError: Error #2007: Parameter child must be non-null.
          at flash.display::DisplayObjectContainer/addChild()
          at container_fla::MainTimeline/loadComplete()
          at container_fla::MainTimeline/frame273()

      ... and the page is white. I took a screenshot but I can't remember my hosting password...



    29. @Zemm said:

      the page is white. I took a screenshot
      I think I can picture that.

      BTW, we have dangerously similar usernames. I'm glad I have a few months of seniority.



    30. Has anybody mentioned the sweet Firefox skin?

      Black is the new ... black?



    31. @movzx said:

      This isn't their website. It's a site to show off "all of the cool
      things you can do with a web enabled phone".

      Well then it's also a lie. The page scrolls at about 1 pixel per second on my 4-core 3GHz machine. How well is that going to run on my web-enabled cell phone?



    32. I see what they're trying to do, but... just no.



      Also check out the top Google search.



    33.  I like how their 'Seconds to Doughnut Day' counter is 371 days -- for an annual event.



    34. @morbiuswilters said:

       Sprint is still in business?  Maybe they should have a widget with "Number of Sprint Customers" rapidly counting down.

       

      someone might have mentioned this, but I'm too lazy to read this entire thread.   There is a widget that says "Sprint GSM Customers" and it isin fact going down.



    35. @amischiefr said:

      Is there something wrong with running Adblock and NoScript?

      Last I checked, AdBlock isn't developed (much?) any more. AdBlock Plus is more modern, frequently updated, and the statusbar icon is smaller. =)



    36. @alter3d said:

       I like how their 'Seconds to Doughnut Day' counter is 371 days -- for an annual event.

       

      They're skipping this year due to lack of interest.



    37. @dhromed said:

      @alter3d said:
      I like how their 'Seconds to Doughnut Day' counter is 371 days -- for an annual event.
      They're skipping this year due to lack of interest.
      I wish the NBA would do that.


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