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  • @mariushm said:

    Microsoft paid them not to install others,
     

    "Paid", past-tense. When XP came out, that was no longer the case. Not that you would know this, being almost wholly ignorant of the topic you're choosing to debate today.

    Yet, XP has been out for almost a decade now and still no OEMs are installing alternate browsers. Hmm! What does that do to your conspiracy theory!

    @mariushm said:

    Dell and HP and others were paid by advertisers to bundle toolbars that worked on IE as Active-X controls so there was no interest in providing alternatives

    And obviously, Microsoft should be punished for this because... uh and also because... hm.

    @mariushm said:

    and finally, adding a second browser to their OS image they use to preload automatically on all computers would make it harder for them for almost no benefit

    Now you're getting a bit closer. Except the browser screen the EU is forcing down everybody's throat doesn't address this at all-- in fact it makes it worse!

    @mariushm said:

    AFAIK Dell only paid about 35$ for each Windows license so you can imagine they had to do some things to get the low price.

    It's all volume. The more you buy, the cheaper the unit cost is.

    @mariushm said:

    Some business still prefer IE over other browsers simply because its configuration can be restricted and controlled by administrators from a central server, and administrators can change the settings to all computers in a network automatically if they want to. This is still not really possible with Firefox or other browsers.

    This paragraph amounts to, "customers want IE." So I don't get why you bothered to type it if you're just backing up my point.

    @mariushm said:

    For most people, the blue e is associated with "the internet" - go on the internet equals clicking on that blue e...

    That paragraph also amounts to, "customers want IE."



  • @mariushm said:

    The customers don't really *want* IE
    It's not an issue of what browser they want or don't want.  The customer doesn't care, except to the extent that they expect to be able to use the internet.  In that loose sense, IE is exactly what they want.



  • @mariushm said:

    The customers don't really *want* IE, most just don't know there are alternative or don't bother trying out others until they get their computers so infected children fix their systems and change the internet explorer shortcut to point to firefox.exe

     

    You are such a massive, epic fag for posting this.  And I don't mean that in the playful, colloquial schoolyard sense of "stupid", I mean it in the very literal sense that dry balls are your sworn enemy and you're on a lifelong mission to personally moisten every pair.  If you could only take five minutes away from your busy schedule of watching homoerotic scheiße porn to look at a computer and/or operating system released in the past 6 years, i.e. anything other than unpatched Windows XP with IE6 and no service packs, you'd know that this is a total non-issue today.  You have to jump through so many hoops to get any browser to do anything even remotely dangerous that by that point you might as well just download MANLOVE.EXE with Firefox and click through the bombardment of security warnings that pop up.

    If you stopped using Windows 10 years ago so you could recompile a kernel twice a day between rim jobs then good for you, fight the power and all that obnoxious hippie shit, but bitching about the problems with a nearly 10-year-old operating system that's gone through 2 major upgrades and half a dozen service packs and then packing fudge conspiracy theories into every post in order to add "impact" just makes you look like a complete asshat.  Open your eyes, trim your neck beard to about 1/4", and stop gibbering about FOSStard talking points that were popular in 2002 as if they were topical in 2010.



  • @mariushm said:

    <wall of DLL names>
    You know what DLLs are and how the dependencies are resolved? These are DLLs that ieframe and mshtml depends on, not the other way around. Google for depends.exe. Or go buy some, because you're pissing all over yourself.



  • @bstorer said:

    @mariushm said:

    The customers don't really *want* IE
    It's not an issue of what browser they want or don't want.  The customer doesn't care, except to the extent that they expect to be able to use the internet.  In that loose sense, IE is exactly what they want.

    Bingo.

     

    You know, people like this make me feel like I need to apologize for running Linux.  I swear that there are good reasons for running Linux, ones that don't end in you flooding message boards with rambling, idiotic diatribes.  The fact is, though, there is no reason you should believe that.  The evidence does not support it.  If I was a computer-ignorant anthropologist who found himself deeply immersed in a Linux-running society I would conclude that it was a hodge-podge formed from the misfits, outcasts and detritus of other societies.  Maybe these people used to be normal, but they were molested by roving bands of robots running Windows.  Maybe they responded to this by developing a deep, visceral aversion to Windows and all things Microsoft.  And as they sought to construct an existence devoid of Microsoft, their egos became deeply linked to their choice of OS.  To the point where even hearing about people using Windows made them lash out in long-winded screeds overflowing with deep emotional turmoil.

     

    Eventually, this made integration of the self with society near-impossible, so they sought like-minded individuals.  People who shared their prejudices and would mindlessly affirm their biases.  And in that environment, they thrived, as it were.  They formed a society that was defined at its core by a rejection of mainstream society.  This isn't unusual, you see it with other subcultures like goth kids or those skeezy metal fans who still have hair down to their ass at 40, even while they are almost completely bald on top.  In fact, there's probably a lot of overlap between the groups.  It's like a depressing Venn diagram of emotionally-stunted angst and complete social failure



  • Sadly, I used to be that guy, but with Macs. I'm ashamed of that now.


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