Oracle and oracle "experts" should be shot



  • so going by the recommendation of "expert" Burlesso, we bought "expert" Ault script package, both "experts" seem to be closely related even if they don't disclose that fact

     

    for 70$ we get a zip file with a bunch of .sql  with cryptic names and with the sole documentation being this line at the top

     /* Copyright <A9> 2004, 2008 by Rampant TechPress Inc.*/

     

    that line is also added to an included zip file inside the zip (obviously breaking the zip)

     it also include 3 files which are clearly the results of some of the sql being run, but are counted in the total number of scripts provided by the package

     

     the "bill" we got with the zip had a link for documentation about the scripts, which only tells you how to use grep to search inside the scripts (which themselves are, as i said, totally undocumented)

     

    yay for 20000$ of software without basic tools included, double yay for useless 3rd party "tools", triple yay for "experts"



  • @Feyr said:

    yay for 20000$ of software without basic tools included
     

    What basic tools do you think Oracle doesn't include?  Oracle has had a comprehensive set of managment tools since at least 9i and in 10g they got much better.  I haven't used 11g yet, but I can't imagine Oracle shipped with less than previous versions.

     



  • ever tried to move a dev database to prod? or copy a prod database to a dev one? and if you need to transfert only part of the db you're fucked. you're pretty much required to write 200 lines of perl every time. exp/imp is a piece of shit compared to the competitors, expdp is even worse and there is no way to drop all the tables in a tablespace without a pl/sql script (which you have to do because imp doesn't have a proper truncate option). you can't even make a straight up copy of the whole database easily. sure you can muck around with the pfile, but it takes wayy too long for something as simple as a copy

    enterprise manager is OK, if you only want to look at the main page. but even then the data it reports is consistently wrong (for exemple, it's been telling us there's only 6% left on the flash recovery area, when a select on the view says otherwise. or that no backup have been made for over 6 months when there is, and they are working, we even recovered a bd from one). the performance manager lacks a lot of useful views, oracle has been deadlocking on us and it doesn't report that anything is amiss



  • @Feyr said:

    ever tried to move a dev database to prod?

    Ever heard of a shift key or spell check?



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Ever heard of a shift key or spell check?
     

    ever heard of minding your own fucking business? 

     

    as a matter of fact, go ahead and run a spellcheck on my comment. maybe you need to go back to school



  • @Feyr said:

    ever heard of minding your own fucking business? 
     

    You posted on a public forum. It is everyone's business.



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    Ever heard of a shift key or spell check?
     

    Ever heard of an ad hominem attack?



  • @havokk said:

    Ever heard of an ad hominem attack?
     

    Yes, yes I have. And that is not one. 

    Feel free to look up the definition sometime.



  •  ^^ another example of my content (tags) being deleted for seemingly no reason.



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @Feyr said:
    ever tried to move a dev database to prod?

    Ever heard of a shift key or spell check?


    What the fuck MPS?

    Considering that almost every poster takes exception to your comments, almost every post you are involved in is either so completely derailed or locked- you might guess that you have a problem


    It should be so fucking obvious that I can only imagine it would be like apples falling from a tree and hitting some dumb lummox on the head like raindrops. "Hrmmm, thread locked again" thwack! "Owww? Thread derailed again" thunk! "Hey, ow! I’m banned!!?" POINK "OW, hey! What's with the apples today? Quit it will ya!"


    I mean, just fuck off- your stupid signature “I’ve been banned” – “Everyone, I’ve been banned”, “No, it’s OK, I’ve been banned” “Nothing to see here people, I’ve been banned” “Did you hear? I’ve been banned”  - “Yes, banned!”


    You haven’t been banned you twat. If you were banned you wouldn’t be posting!
     

     



  • @matterific said:

    You haven’t been banned you twat. If you were banned you wouldn’t be posting!

    Alex stated on Monday (I think)that there was an issue with the CS module related to banning or somesuch (I'm too lazy to track it down now), and I gather it has been "fixed" by now. So feel free let go of any repressed anger.



  •  Totally agree with your comments.  You get these morons that love to hide behind anonomity and spurt rubbish.  In the real world, they would not even get heard:).  I have seen so many posts here on the bash from people who you know have no real say.   These posts are just so pathetic but then I like reading them as it makes me feel better in the knowledge that these people are working - and if they are then they make me look good:))))



  •  You see there is your problem... you believe that Big Don is good... that is where you went wrong....

     The club that is Oracle does not really publicise itself as much as Big Don...  

     One thing to note though... Big Don is very very very good at self promotion.... 10/10...

    Self proclaimation does not warrant the expert title.  Shop around before you buy the first thing that you google.  MAKE SURE IT AINT QUEST EITHER!



  • @Feyr said:

    ever heard of minding your own fucking business? 

     

    Best possible answer.


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