Forum Guidelines Discussion



  • Several of the newbies, as well as long-time lurkers, have complained about the lack of guidelines about posting, but I felt it would be a good idea to keep discussion of guidelines to a separate thread from the discussion of existing moderation. Putting this thread here in General Discussion seemed like a more appropriate location as the rules are not meant to be a WTF. I feel the guidelines for posting should be in 2 parts, covering the forum software and the etiquette.
    If this is felt to be a good idea, then a sticky thread can be created with the results of the discussion.

    Forum Software

    This forum uses community Server, which has some strange quirks, so to minimise our pain and yours, some basic instructions are below

    1. There are many flaws with the standard and enhanced editors, which require Javascript to run. If you prefer to use the plain text editor, this can be set in your profile.
      1. In some browsers, particularly IE, newlines are not properly converted to HTML. You should therefore check the preview tab on the post page and edit the HTML manually if necessary before posting
      2. In Firefox, the comment field is not spellchecked by default. To turn it on, right-click in the field and select "Spell check this field"
      We know most of the flaws of the editor, so unless you find a security hole or something really major, we don't need to be told again.
    2. the edit time-out is very short, so use the preview function and think before you post.
    3. In the editor, if you click on the quote button without any text selected, the entire post is quoted. If part of the text is selected, the selected text is quoted.

    Posting Etiquette

    1. Do not quote the entire OP.
    2. If you are replying to anyone else, please quote the relevant excerpt from the post to provide context.
    3. Each reply should be to one post only (so that the comments appear in the correct place in the threaded view)
    4. We know that you can post arbitrary HTML. Please don't abuse this, it isn't funny any more
    5. If you believe someone is calling you out unfairly, please PM them, or take the matter to the IRC channel: irc://irc.slashnet.org#TDWTFMafia
    6. Not all of the forum users are native speakers of English. Please be polite to them.
    7. Some people have non-functioning sarcasm detectors. Please tag sarcastic comments as such
    8. Conversely, please do not post an incoherent mess. If we can't understand it, at best you will be ignored

    Please remember that these are guidelines, not rules: even if this doesn't say you cannot do something it doesn't mean you won't get banned for it. In short, don't be a jerk.

    Does anyone think anything should be added?
    Does anyone think this is redundant?

    Please keep this discussion civil, and try to stay on topic. This thread is simply meant to come up with useful information for newbies, not to argue about past events. The idea is that if we have such a guidelines thread, people can point newbies to it and if they disagree with what they read they can discuss the matter there, leaving the rest of our threads unpolluted.



  • I agree with the guidelines 100%.

     

    Thanks for writing them down.



  • I largely agree with the guidelines. Just a few comments:

    1. Should a note be added with regards to using Opera?

    2. I think 'PM' should be defined and maybe a little note on it.  I know that I went the longest time trying to figure out that it meant "Personal Message".

    3. I would also add a note about how the "Insert/edit link" button is only active when your text is highlighted.  It isn't a disabled feature.

    That's all I can think of right now... 



  • I see that AmmoQ has locked the Moderation thread. I didn't mean to try to go around him by creating a new thread, in fact I had written most of this last night but forgot to post until this morning

    I ought to add a section explaining out various memes as well, but I will have to track down the original mug and sticker links, adn decide which are worth explaining and which to let them figure out for themselves.



  • @Physics Phil said:

    I ought to add a section explaining out various memes as well

    Please don't. That is defintely going way too far and would take a lot of fun away from us.

     

    Moderator's note: bs removed



  •  I'd add a couple more bits to the Etiquette section:

    a) Do not needlessly resurrect old threads. If the last reply in a  thread is more than 1 week old, please consider the discussion as "mostly dead", and anything beyond 2 weeks as completely dead.

    b) Do not spam the forums with 'me too!' type posts. This is not AOL.



  •  Phil, thanks for all the work you've put in drafting those guidelines. Please just add a very important one (actually more a rule than a guideline):

    Please do not try to enforce those guidelines when others violate them. Discussions about which guideline was violated or not and why are inherently off-topic.

     



  • here is the updated version to includde the suggestions made by others

    Forum Software

    This forum uses community Server, which has some strange quirks, so to minimise our pain and yours, some basic instructions are below

    • There are many flaws with the standard and enhanced editors, which require Javascript to run. If you prefer to use the plain text editor, this can be set in your profile.
      • In some browsers, particularly IE and Opera, newlines are not properly converted to HTML. You should therefore check the preview tab on the post page and edit the HTML manually if necessary before posting. Opera can also cause other mangling of posts. There is a button in the editor tab to do this.
      • In Firefox, the comment field is not spellchecked by default. To turn it on, right-click in the field and select "Spell check this field"
      • The insert/edit link button only works if you have text highlighted. This is a feature, not a bug.
      We know most of the flaws of the editor, so unless you find a security hole or something really major, we don't need to be told again.
    • the edit time-out is very short, so use the preview function and think before you post.
    • In the editor, if you click on the quote button without any text selected, the entire post is quoted. If part of the text is selected, the selected text is quoted.
    • Most instances of people's usernames are links to their profile. From here you can send them a private message, as well as see some of their public information

    Posting Etiquette

    Please do not try to enforce those guidelines when others violate them. Discussions about which guideline was violated or not and why are inherently off-topic.

    This is the Golden Rule. The items below are guidelines, not rules: even if this doesn't say you cannot do something it doesn't mean you won't get banned for it. In short, don't be a jerk.

    • Do not quote the entire original post (OP).
    • If you are replying to anyone else, please quote the relevant excerpt from the post to provide context.
    • Each reply should be to one post only (so that the comments appear in the correct place in the threaded view)
    • We know that you can post arbitrary HTML. Please don't abuse this, it isn't funny any more
    • If you believe someone is calling you out unfairly, please send them a private message (PM), or take the matter to the IRC channel: irc://irc.slashnet.org#TDWTFMafia
    • Not all of the forum users are native speakers of English. Please be polite to them.
    • Some people have non-functioning sarcasm detectors. Please tag sarcastic comments as such
    • Conversely, please do not post an incoherent mess. If we can't understand it, at best you will be ignored
    • Do not needlessly resurrect old threads. If the last reply in a thread is more than 1 week old, please consider the discussion as "mostly dead", and anything beyond 2 weeks as completely dead.
    • Do not spam the forums with 'me too!' type posts. This is not AOL.


  • I am way too lazy to edit that, but basically that's my opinion:

    [23:01] <DrJokepu> my problem with phil's list that the whole point of sarcasm that you don't tell it's sarcasm. it's like an iq-test.
    tagging sarcasm with </sarcasm> is plain faggotry i think
    [23:01] <mps> dr, stfu noob
    [23:01] <mps> DrJokepu: was that sarcasm?
    [23:02] <DrJokepu> ^_^
    [23:02] <hedonismbot> no u!
    [23:02] <drjokepu> was that sarcasm?
    [23:02] <mps> DrJokepu: your face is sarcasm, fgt
    [23:02] <morbz> DrJokepu: I agree.
    [23:03] <mps> I just dislike coddling people 
    [23:03] <mps> I think we should expect a certain level of intelligence on the forum
    [23:04] <mps> of course that doesnt explain why morb is here
    [23:05] <morbz> DrJokepu: Can you imagine if Jonathan Swift had been like "Begin sarcasm.."
    [23:05] <ammoq> DrJokepu: why don't you post your opinion about the sarcasm-tag in phil's thread? I'm sure many people agree with you.
    


  • @Physics Phil said:

    Several of the newbies, as well as long-time lurkers, have complained about the lack of guidelines about posting, but I felt it would be a good idea to keep discussion of guidelines to a separate thread from the discussion of existing moderation. Putting this thread here in General Discussion seemed like a more appropriate location as the rules are not meant to be a WTF. I feel the guidelines for posting should be in 2 parts, covering the forum software and the etiquette.
    If this is felt to be a good idea, then a sticky thread can be created with the results of the discussion.

    Forum Software

    This forum uses community Server, which has some strange quirks, so to minimise our pain and yours, some basic instructions are below

    1. There are many flaws with the standard and enhanced editors, which require Javascript to run. If you prefer to use the plain text editor, this can be set in your profile.
      1. In some browsers, particularly IE, newlines are not properly converted to HTML. You should therefore check the preview tab on the post page and edit the HTML manually if necessary before posting
      2. In Firefox, the comment field is not spellchecked by default. To turn it on, right-click in the field and select "Spell check this field"
      We know most of the flaws of the editor, so unless you find a security hole or something really major, we don't need to be told again.
    2. the edit time-out is very short, so use the preview function and think before you post.
    3. In the editor, if you click on the quote button without any text selected, the entire post is quoted. If part of the text is selected, the selected text is quoted.

    Posting Etiquette

    1. Do not quote the entire OP.
    2. If you are replying to anyone else, please quote the relevant excerpt from the post to provide context.
    3. Each reply should be to one post only (so that the comments appear in the correct place in the threaded view)
    4. We know that you can post arbitrary HTML. Please don't abuse this, it isn't funny any more
    5. If you believe someone is calling you out unfairly, please PM them, or take the matter to the IRC channel: irc://irc.slashnet.org#TDWTFMafia
    6. Not all of the forum users are native speakers of English. Please be polite to them.
    7. Some people have non-functioning sarcasm detectors. Please tag sarcastic comments as such
    8. Conversely, please do not post an incoherent mess. If we can't understand it, at best you will be ignored

    Please remember that these are guidelines, not rules: even if this doesn't say you cannot do something it doesn't mean you won't get banned for it. In short, don't be a jerk.

    Does anyone think anything should be added?
    Does anyone think this is redundant?

    Please keep this discussion civil, and try to stay on topic. This thread is simply meant to come up with useful information for newbies, not to argue about past events. The idea is that if we have such a guidelines thread, people can point newbies to it and if they disagree with what they read they can discuss the matter there, leaving the rest of our threads unpolluted.

    As for the forum software, deal with it. Either get your ass to Cleveland and become Alex's personal assistant and redo the site or deal with it. Given the subject matter on TDWTF, its expected for the readers to either have some IT background or be in the middle of learning it.

    You're never going to be able to enforce politeness.

    TDWTF has a history and a lot of its own meme's (thus quoting the entire OP), its amusing. Again deal with it. God forbid the modern internet generation have to read and filter information for themselves.

    Almost forgot. I use Opera so you're going to have to deal with my line breaks.

    I'll wait until the thread gets back on track then derail it again by posting in my medicore German.



  • @Rotary Jihad said:

    @Physics Phil said:

    Several of the newbies, as well as long-time lurkers, have complained about the lack of guidelines about posting, but I felt it would be a good idea to keep discussion of guidelines to a separate thread from the discussion of existing moderation. Putting this thread here in General Discussion seemed like a more appropriate location as the rules are not meant to be a WTF. I feel the guidelines for posting should be in 2 parts, covering the forum software and the etiquette.
    If this is felt to be a good idea, then a sticky thread can be created with the results of the discussion.

    Forum Software

    This forum uses community Server, which has some strange quirks, so to minimise our pain and yours, some basic instructions are below

    1. There are many flaws with the standard and enhanced editors, which require Javascript to run. If you prefer to use the plain text editor, this can be set in your profile.
      1. In some browsers, particularly IE, newlines are not properly converted to HTML. You should therefore check the preview tab on the post page and edit the HTML manually if necessary before posting
      2. In Firefox, the comment field is not spellchecked by default. To turn it on, right-click in the field and select "Spell check this field"
      We know most of the flaws of the editor, so unless you find a security hole or something really major, we don't need to be told again.
    2. the edit time-out is very short, so use the preview function and think before you post.
    3. In the editor, if you click on the quote button without any text selected, the entire post is quoted. If part of the text is selected, the selected text is quoted.

    Posting Etiquette

    1. Do not quote the entire OP.
    2. If you are replying to anyone else, please quote the relevant excerpt from the post to provide context.
    3. Each reply should be to one post only (so that the comments appear in the correct place in the threaded view)
    4. We know that you can post arbitrary HTML. Please don't abuse this, it isn't funny any more
    5. If you believe someone is calling you out unfairly, please PM them, or take the matter to the IRC channel: irc://irc.slashnet.org#TDWTFMafia
    6. Not all of the forum users are native speakers of English. Please be polite to them.
    7. Some people have non-functioning sarcasm detectors. Please tag sarcastic comments as such
    8. Conversely, please do not post an incoherent mess. If we can't understand it, at best you will be ignored

    Please remember that these are guidelines, not rules: even if this doesn't say you cannot do something it doesn't mean you won't get banned for it. In short, don't be a jerk.

    Does anyone think anything should be added?
    Does anyone think this is redundant?

    Please keep this discussion civil, and try to stay on topic. This thread is simply meant to come up with useful information for newbies, not to argue about past events. The idea is that if we have such a guidelines thread, people can point newbies to it and if they disagree with what they read they can discuss the matter there, leaving the rest of our threads unpolluted.

    As for the forum software, deal with it. Either get your ass to Cleveland and become Alex's personal assistant and redo the site or deal with it. Given the subject matter on TDWTF, its expected for the readers to either have some IT background or be in the middle of learning it.

    You're never going to be able to enforce politeness.

    TDWTF has a history and a lot of its own meme's (thus quoting the entire OP), its amusing. Again deal with it. God forbid the modern internet generation have to read and filter information for themselves.

    Almost forgot. I use Opera so you're going to have to deal with my line breaks.

    I'll wait until the thread gets back on track then derail it again by posting in my medicore German.

    Oh I almost forgot. Wrap everything I say in sarcasm tags. Or ~'s whatever the fuck it is we're supposed to use to indicate sarcasm.



  • Fully agreed with the rules. If the quote thing is now official consensus, I'm fine with it.

    Maybe you could add what morbiuswilters said about rss and emails here. At least it made the quoting more understandeable for me.



  •  notes added:

     

     1.  Perhaps we could pursued Alex to increase the timeout of the edit button.  I'm assuming it's a pretty easily configured variable.

     

    • Do not quote the entire original post (OP).

    I think this only applies to posts that are very long.  If it's less than 10 or so lines then it doesn't matter. 

     

    • If you are replying to anyone else, please quote the relevant excerpt from the post to provide context.

    I really don't see the point in this if it's obvious who you are replying to, especially if it's the last post in the thread.  This, it seems to me, adds more scrolling than quoting the entire OP.

     

    • Each reply should be to one post only (so that the comments appear in the correct place in the threaded view)

    This also implies that you should hit "reply to" on the correct post, not just to the last post like I sometimes do 😉

     

    • If you believe someone is calling you out unfairly, please send
      them a private message (PM), or take the matter to the IRC channel: irc://irc.slashnet.org#TDWTFMafia

    I think this rule kind of violates the idea of a "forum."  I'd rather not encourage people to move arguments elsewhere, I'd rather encourage people to keep arguments civilized and not to argue over stupid shit like quoting the OP, or spelling mistakes.

     

    • Not all of the forum users are native speakers of English. Please be polite to them.

    However, I think it should be stressed that everyone should try to post coherent sentences with good spelling.  I bother to look a word up if I don't know how to spell it, and I expect others to have good spelling too.  This includes sentences like, "I like u 2 man, i tlak lik im chating"

     

    • Some people have non-functioning sarcasm detectors. Please tag sarcastic comments as such

    No.

     

    • Conversely, please do not post an incoherent mess. If we can't understand it, at best you will be ignored

    I guess this goes with the one 2 above it.   I would just like it to include very bad spelling and obviously lazing grammar.

     

    • Do not needlessly resurrect old threads. If the last reply in a
      thread is more than 1 week old, please consider the discussion as
      "mostly dead", and anything beyond 2 weeks as completely dead.

    I would say this doesn't apply if you have a new idea, or something of considerable value to add to the thread.  Obviously you should think twice before resurrection though.



    @Physics Phil said:

    • Do not spam the forums with 'me too!' type posts. This is not

    QFI (Quoted for Irony) 



  • @tster said:

    • If you are replying to anyone else, please quote the relevant excerpt from the post to provide context.

    I really don't see the point in this if it's obvious who you are replying to, especially if it's the last post in the thread.  This, it seems to me, adds more scrolling than quoting the entire OP.

     

     Maybe, but as stated earlier, if a thread splinters into multiple topics (as threads often tend to do), replies can get confusing unless a poster quotes just exactly what he/she's replying to.



  • @Girtych said:


    Maybe, but as stated earlier, if a thread splinters into multiple topics (as threads often tend to do), replies can get confusing unless a poster quotes just exactly what he/she's replying to.
     

    If that's the case, then yes, of course you quote. However, I think we can use common sense to decide when it's sensible to quote and when not.

    For example, I'd consider quotes like the one I just made in this post bad. In this case, the context is clear and the post gives no new information, instead just clutters up the thread.



  • @tster said:

    • Some people have non-functioning sarcasm detectors. Please tag sarcastic comments as such

    No.

     

    Yes.  Again, remember that these are only guidelines, not rules.  If you feel that your sarcasm will be worsened by using a sarcasm tag, then there is no one forcing you to do so.  Just recognize that if someone mistakes your post for serious, then the thread is likely to degrade to a flamewar.

    My experience has been (in this forum, other forums, and IM chats) that many people just can not tell the difference, and the guidance of the </sarcasm> tag will make the joke clear -- therefore funny. 



  • @Physics Phil said:

    ...even if this doesn't say you cannot do something it doesn't mean you won't get banned for it
     

    So, don't do what Johnny-Don't-Do does?   



  • Another update to handle the newer comments, particularly tster's.

    Forum Software

    This forum uses community Server, which has some strange quirks, so to minimise our pain and yours, some basic instructions are below

    1. There are many flaws with the standard and enhanced editors, which require Javascript to run. If you prefer to use the plain text editor, this can be set in your profile.
      1. In some browsers, particularly IE and Opera, newlines are not properly converted to HTML. You should therefore check the preview tab on the post page and edit the HTML manually if necessary before posting. Opera can also cause other mangling of posts. There is a button in the editor tab to do this.
      2. In Firefox, the comment field is not spellchecked by default. To turn it on, right-click in the field and select "Spell check this field"
      3. The insert/edit link button only works if you have text highlighted. This is a feature, not a bug.
      We know most of the flaws of the editor, so unless you find a security hole or something really major, we don't need to be told again.
    2. the edit time-out is very short, so use the preview function and think before you post.
    3. In the editor, if you click on the quote button without any text selected, the entire post is quoted. If part of the text is selected, the selected text is quoted.
    4. Most instances of people's usernames are links to their profile. From here you can send them a private message, as well as see some of their public information

    Posting Etiquette

    Please do not try to enforce those guidelines when others violate them. Discussions about which guideline was violated or not and why are inherently off-topic.

    This is the Golden Rule. The items below are guidelines, not rules: even if this doesn't say you cannot do something it doesn't mean you won't get banned for it. In short, don't be a jerk.

    1. Do not unnecessarily quote the entire original post (OP).
    2. If you are replying to anyone else, please quote enough to provide context. Some people follow the forums via email updates, and without the context provided by a quote, it can be hard to follow the conversation
    3. Each reply should be to one post only, and you should use the reply-to link on the relevant post (so that the comments appear in the correct place in the threaded view)
    4. We know that you can post arbitrary HTML. Please don't abuse this, it isn't funny any more
    5. If you believe someone is calling you out unfairly, please consider sending them a private message (PM), or taking the matter to the IRC channel: irc://irc.slashnet.org#TDWTFMafia.
    6. Not all of the forum users are native speakers of English. Please be polite to them. Conversely, please do not post an incoherent mess. If we can't understand it, at best you will be ignored. Text speak and 1337 are especially annoying when overused.
    7. Some people have non-functioning sarcasm detectors. If your post is likely to be misconstrued as flamebait, it is a good idea to make your intent clear by means of the tags field
    8. Do not needlessly resurrect old threads. If the last reply in a thread is more than 1 week old, please consider the discussion as "mostly dead", and anything beyond 2 weeks as completely dead. If you have a new idea, or something of considerable value to add to the thread, by all means do so, but please think before you post.
    9. Do not spam the forums with 'me too!' type posts. This is not AOL.

    I cannot claim credit for the "this is not AOL" comment, that is entirely MarcB's wit.

    Feel free to edit points if you think there is a better way to write them, since coherent explanation isn't always my strong point.



  • @Rotary Jihad said:

    As for the forum software, deal with it. Either get your ass to Cleveland and become Alex's personal assistant and redo the site or deal with it.

    I'm not complaining, this is just meant as a warning for new users so that they don't end up with their first few posts mangled

    @Rotary Jihad said:

    You're never going to be able to enforce politeness.

    I'm not trying to enforce politeness, instead I'm just trying to determine a consensus about what is considered correct behaviour, thus keeping these interminable debates over quoting styles and the like out of our other threads.

    @Rotary Jihad said:

    Almost forgot. I use Opera so you're going to have to deal with my line breaks.

    In this case it wasn't too bas, but when someone posts a big wall of text, it is harder to read, and needlessly so. Knowing that this is going to happen, they can make have the courtesy to prevent it.



  • @tster said:

     1.  Perhaps we could pursued Alex to increase the timeout of the edit button.  I'm assuming it's a pretty easily configured variable.

    I would prefer not.  I don't use the edit feature personally and would like it removed.  I think people should take more care and proofread before posting.  If you can catch the error after you post, you could have caught it before you did.   If you huffed paint thinner just before posting and completely screwed the pooch, you can always post a retraction.  I'm not a big fan of revisionist history, either.  However, I do think this needs to be made clear for new users who may not be aware of the posting timeout.

     

    @tster said:

    I think this only applies to posts that are very long.  If it's less than 10 or so lines then it doesn't matter. 

    Quoting should be used to give context.  If your OP quote does not give context, it should not be done.  I don't think anyone is arguing that the OP should never be quoted, just that quoting the whole thing is silly, regardless of an arbitrary "acceptable" amount of lines.  Hell, you can quote the whole OP if you need to respond point-by-point and it is the best way to establish context.  I understand not everyone is an English major here (let alone a native English speaker) but there are some fairly basic guidelines of style that improve readability.  I think people would complain if my post was in a very tiny font, too.  It's all about taking care when replying and thinking about others.

     

    @tster said:

    I really don't see the point in this if it's obvious who you are replying to, especially if it's the last post in the thread.  This, it seems to me, adds more scrolling than quoting the entire OP.

    It establishes context, as I said above.  You may think your post will appear directly below the one you are replying to, but there is no way to be sure.  Once again, there is no need to quote the entire post you are replying to, just enough to establish context and allow us to switch gears.  It's not about the amount of scrolling, it's about the signal-to-noise ratio.  I know that term gets bandied about a lot on tech forums, but it's an important part of writing no matter where you are.  Remember, as a writer people are doing you a favor by reading your post.  It is your responsibility to make your audience comfortable and to assist in their understanding.

     

    @tster said:

    This also implies that you should hit "reply to" on the correct post, not just to the last post like I sometimes do 😉

    This is the proper way to reply to someone.  Anything less disrupts the context.  You may think this is pedantic whining, but my real goal here is to increase the quality of the replies.  Nobody is going to go over your post with a fine-tooth comb and point out spelling or grammar mistakes, but I would hope technically-inclined people would understand the importance of being direct and clear when communicating.


    @tster said:

    I think this rule kind of violates the idea of a "forum."  I'd rather not encourage people to move arguments elsewhere, I'd rather encourage people to keep arguments civilized and not to argue over stupid shit like quoting the OP, or spelling mistakes.

    We're trying to eliminate these off-topic flamefests altogether.  That means if someone does break protocol, we don't all jump down their throat.  As history has shown us, this only leads to escalation and flamefests that help no one.  I have already agreed to stop trying to "enforce" the etiquette rules.  I think if you already have a legitimate post and you want to add a polite "by the way, we do appreciate it if.." at the end of your post that seems to be acceptable, but posts that only correct etiquette are no longer acceptable.  Also, if you notice a particular user egregiously violating protocol and you don't have something legitimate to say, you can always shoot them a Private Message and politely and kindly inform them of the rules.

     

    @tster said:

    • Some people have non-functioning sarcasm detectors. Please tag sarcastic comments as such

    No.

    (Not to get off-topic, but the way you have chosen to quote the person you are replying to makes it hard for me to quote you.)  I agree that ruining sarcasm is a bad idea.  On the other hand, a good comedian always does his or her best to ensure the audience understands the joke.  I frequently find myself rewording statements so my intent is more clear and direct.  Also, a good comedian should be prepared to have a joke bomb and should be able to handle someone who misses the joke in a light-hearted way.

     

     @tster said:

    • Do not needlessly resurrect old threads. If the last reply in a
      thread is more than 1 week old, please consider the discussion as
      "mostly dead", and anything beyond 2 weeks as completely dead.

    I would say this doesn't apply if you have a new idea, or something of considerable value to add to the thread.  Obviously you should think twice before resurrection though.

    I think one week is the absolute limit.  After that, you are free to start a new thread and post a link to the old thread.  However, you should not be directly replying to any week-old post as the individual who posted it has probably already considered it laid to rest.  If your new content is good enough to post after one week, then it should be good enough to start a new thread with.  Dredging up old arguments or discussions is tiring and counter-productive.  I don't know of many forums that allow posting after a certain deadline, simply because everyone who had something to say has spoken their piece.  If you missed being able to state your opinion, too bad, unless you have something so amazing it would justify a new thread.  A new thread will get a lot more attention and will actually engage people.  Posting in a week-old thread is like missing a debate class and showing up the next week to debate the topic you missed: everyone else has moved on and you are only inconveniencing and annoying others by dredging the old debate back up.


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