Excel to web app = fail





  •  I'll turn around at the next exit I think I missed the point of this post even though you explained it so well. 



  • @CrouchSoft said:

    http://www.equalssolved.com/

    Horrifying.

    I like how every link on the site that looks like it may take you to actual technical details of the software all just forward back to the base marketing page. Even clicking on the tiny unreadable screenshots (I would expect those links to, yanno, let me see the screenshots in full?) just forwards you to the marketing page.

    I tried to use the demo app, but couldn't make it past the second page since their javascript validation flips out with constant annoying validation failures. The problem it had? The default values THE APP PROVIDED were not legal. Unless that was what they were trying to demo? I am still not sure.



  • @repeater said:

    Horrifying.

    I like how every link on the site that looks like it may take you to actual technical details of the software all just forward back to the base marketing page.

     

    So is the WTF supposed to be the website itself or what the software purports to do because while it seems limited and probably a clunky implementation I don't really think the concept itself of generating a site from an Excel template is that mind boggling of a concept and I've seen plenty of questions of tech websites where clearly there is a market for this sort of thing (at least two devshed postings recently where someone was looking to make an excel doc editable on their site, for example).   

    I guess I'm just scratching my head over exactly what I should be scratching my head over ... 



  • Wow, it's like "As if Excel wasn't already good enough... now you can get it on the web!"

    I can think of other similar statements:

    "As if ebola wasn't already good enough... now you can crawl naked on your balls across broken glass to get it!"

    "As if drinking a glass of rancid vomit wasn't already good
    enough...  now you can get it drilled into your neck by a pneumatic
    hammer!"

    "As if having the steering wheel smash through your face in a ninety-mile-an-hour road crash wasn't already good enough.... now you can have all your friends and family in the back seat at the time!" 

     ...etc. etc. etc.  :-0

     



  • @medialint said:

    I guess I'm just scratching my head over exactly what I should be scratching my head over ... 

     

    See previous post.... 

     



  • @medialint said:

    @repeater said:

    Horrifying.

    I like how every link on the site that looks like it may take you to actual technical details of the software all just forward back to the base marketing page.

     

    So is the WTF supposed to be the website itself or what the software purports to do because while it seems limited and probably a clunky implementation I don't really think the concept itself of generating a site from an Excel template is that mind boggling of a concept and I've seen plenty of questions of tech websites where clearly there is a market for this sort of thing (at least two devshed postings recently where someone was looking to make an excel doc editable on their site, for example).   

    I guess I'm just scratching my head over exactly what I should be scratching my head over ... 

    I think it is mostly just one of those "this is a really bad idea and there is a reason nobody wants to tackle it" things, as mentioned above. I suppose I also really can't fault the site, as this is obviously a product meant to entice non-techs as an easy way to make webapps without needing a developer, and providing tech details would scare off anyone who knew better.

    Also, the fact that the whole mess costs around $7,000 with an annual recurring "maintenance" fee of $2,000 per sever is a big WTF (see: http://www.equalssolved.com/purchase.aspx).

    That right there throws the "hey this might be useful to a small org that can't afford a cheap dev" argument out the window, and pushes the thing in to WTF territory.

    Though, the original poster gave no commentary so who knows if that is what he was getting at.



  • @DaveK said:

    Wow, it's like "As if Excel wasn't already good enough... now you can get it on the web!"

    I can think of other similar statements:

    "As if ebola wasn't already good enough... now you can crawl naked on your balls across broken glass to get it!"

    "As if drinking a glass of rancid vomit wasn't already good
    enough...  now you can get it drilled into your neck by a pneumatic
    hammer!"

    "As if having the steering wheel smash through your face in a ninety-mile-an-hour road crash wasn't already good enough.... now you can have all your friends and family in the back seat at the time!" 

     ...etc. etc. etc.  :-0

     

    Where's that mug when you need it. 



  • @DaveK said:

    I can think of other similar statements:

     

    Gah.  I owe an apology to bstorer.  I thought I had made a joke, but
    I just discovered I was only remembering (roughly) a joke made by bstorer on teh spectateswamp thread a day or two back.

    Sorry bstorer!

    @DaveK said:

    Wow, it's like "As if Excel wasn't already good enough... now you can get it on the web!"

    That, of course, is all the WTF that anyone should need. 



  • @DaveK said:

    @DaveK said:

    I can think of other similar statements:

     

    Gah.  I owe an apology to bstorer.  I thought I had made a joke, but
    I just discovered I was only remembering (roughly) a joke made by bstorer on teh spectateswamp thread a day or two back.

    Sorry bstorer!

    Hah! I just assumed it was a tribute to that thread / post. (Also, I had to stop posting in that thread when I realized I was just repeating what I posted in there two weeks ago - but I think ripping yourself off is more socially acceptable perhaps?)



  • I guess some comentary would have been good, i thought it spoke for itself.

    I randomly found the ad and thought it seemed like the rather bad idea. I didnt look all the way through the site but 7k sounds a bit steep.



  • @repeater said:

    (Also, I had to stop posting in that thread when I realized I was just repeating what I posted in there two weeks ago - but I think ripping yourself off is more socially acceptable perhaps?)

    Only if your nickname fits this behavior - which yours obviously does.



  • @DaveK said:

    Gah.  I owe an apology to bstorer.  I thought I had made a joke, but
    I just discovered I was only remembering (roughly) a joke made by bstorer on teh spectateswamp thread a day or two back.

    Sorry bstorer!

     

    No hard feelings.  Much of my writing style in the SSDS thread is inspired by masters of sarcastic critique over at Fire Joe Morgan.



  • Sounds like it worked properly

    <p>Thank you for the feedback.</p>

    <p>Were you unable to find the video tour?</p>

    <p>mms://media.equalssolved.com/AdvancedXL-Overview</p>

    <p>Individual videos can also be found here:</p>

    <p>http://www.equalssolved.com/tutorials/aspnet/961d8d52-eaa4-4a06-8b6e-7f5a09da17a3/advancedxl174-designer.aspx</p>

    <p>The demonstration surveys have examples of how to restrict values that can be entered. The demo messages should have informed you of the proper values that can be accepted. We'll take your feedback into account in regards to the content of the web site. All suggestions on how to better communicate with our clients is appreciated.</p>

    <p>For those who are interested, you can test drive our demonstrations prior to downloading the designer software: </p>

    <p>http://www.equalssolved.com/framework/onlinedemos.aspx</p>

    <p>They give you a good idea of what an intermediate Excel user can create without programming skills. Our target audience is people who build a lot of custom Excel spreadsheets and need ways to turn them into complex web apps without having to rely on their IT teams to provide a resource. They also don't want to publicly distribute the Excel file itself for fear of tampering and discovering intellectual property or private formulas. You'd be amazed at the types of web applications people build and how quickly they are production ready.</p>



  • A properly formatted response.

    Thank you for the feedback.

    Were you unable to find the video tour?

    mms://media.equalssolved.com/AdvancedXL-Overview

    Individual videos can also be found here:

    http://www.equalssolved.com/tutorials/aspnet/961d8d52-eaa4-4a06-8b6e-7f5a09da17a3/advancedxl174-designer.aspx

    The demonstration surveys have examples of how to restrict values that can be entered. The demo messages should have informed you of the proper values that can be accepted. We'll take your feedback into account in regards to the content of the web site. All suggestions on how to better communicate with our clients is appreciated.

    For those who are interested, you can test drive our demonstrations prior to downloading the designer software:

    http://www.equalssolved.com/framework/onlinedemos.aspx

    They give you a good idea of what an intermediate Excel user can create without programming skills. Our target audience is people who build a lot of custom Excel spreadsheets and need ways to turn them into complex web apps without having to rely on their IT teams to provide a resource. They also don't want to publicly distribute the Excel file itself for fear of tampering and discovering intellectual property or private formulas. You'd be amazed at the types of web applications people build and how quickly they are production ready.



  • You do realize this is the place where we mock and ridicule both your product and your hairstyle, right?



  • @equalssolved said:

    You'd be amazed at the types of web applications people build and how quickly they are production ready.
     

    Let me be the first to say "Thank you for adding to the supply of material for this site".



  • Indeed

    My spiked hair has been both envied and mocked for years...I noticed this url in our web traffic reports, read the thread, and wanted to put our two cents in.  Anytime we run across a frustrated customer or potential customer, we stop and take the time to be as helpful as possible.  That said, we'd love to hear all of the negative comments (positive ones as well) you folks can dish out.



  • @equalssolved said:

    That said, we'd love to hear all of the negative comments (positive ones as well) you folks can dish out.
     

    I highly doubt that.

    I see another SSDS thread coming on...



  • @equalssolved said:

    I noticed this url in our web traffic reports

    Business a little slow today? I wouldn't have noticed it until the end of the week, at least. Or maybe your logs are really short.

    @equalssolved said:

    we'd love to hear all of the negative comments

    I would think that a business would be more inclined to phrase it more like this:

    We'd love to hear all feedback regarding our product so that we may make improvements to better suit your needs

    @equalssolved said:

    you folks can dish out

    That's just asking for it, you know.


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