You fail



  • This is a translated conversation between me and a coworker:

    Him: sorry to bother you but I have a problem configuring a Linux distro: Slackware12. I can't connect to the net. Unlike other distributions this doesn't automatically connect to the internet. How do I do it, do you have any suggestions ? If you're busy and can't help me that's ok, it's just that I don't know who to ask for help, especially since I don't really have much experience configuring a linux

    Me: and to what net source do you want to connect ?

    Him: I want to connect at work

    Me: wireless or utp ?

    Him: and besides this I want to connect from home
    Him: utp here, wireless home

    Me: do you know on what interface your network card is (eth0 or eth1 or etc) ?

    Him: eth1

    Me: ok, try (as root) "dhclient eth1"
    Me: with the condition that the cable is plugged into your computer

    Him: only this ?
    Him: look like it
    Him: is this valid for wireless too ?

    Me:it's a little more complicated for wireless
    Me: wep or wpa ?

    Him: no security

    Me: then it's easy :)
    Me: is eth0 the wireless ?

    Him: i think so, don't really know

    Me: well, let's pretend it is
    Me: as root, "iwconfig eth0 essid your_SID"
    Me: and then dhclient eth0 so that the dhcp server can give you an ip

    Him: does it also work for mac
    Him: if I specify the mac instead of SID

    Me: i think so, 2 sec
    Me: iwconfig eth0 ap xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx

    Him: right
    Him: and if it has security what must i do ?
    Him: what's different ?

    Me: depends on the distro
    Me: if you want to do everything manually, you must also execute "iwconfig eth0 key key_in_hex"
    Me: or if you want ascii, "iwconfig eth0 key s:key_in_ascii"
    Me: this is for wep
    Me: for wpa, you need a helper program, wpasupplicant or xsupplicant, one of those
    Me: and you need to modify a configuration file
    Me: once again, all of this is for manual set-up
    Me: but for sure there's a scripted way to do this
    Me: unfortunately, it's distro-specific

    Him: do you know the slackware specific way ?
    Him: or how can i find it ?

    Me: no; search for slackware forum

    Him: k
    Him: thank you and sorry for bothering you

    Me: np
    Me: here's a link that sounds nice: http://www.slackware.com/book/

    Now it would have been the perfect moment to end the conversation, and feel good the rest of the day that I helped somebody learn somehing new. But of course, I didn't.

    Me: a question now: why did you installed slack ? is it a requirement or you just wanted to ?

    Him: well it has kdevelop and a ton of other functionalities that I didn't found on other distros

    (What???)

    Him: why do you ask ?

    Me: because it's not a very user-friendly distro

    Him: i didn't install it i'm using the virtual machine that i run with vmplayer

    Me: even so
    Me: and wait a minute
    Me: you're using a virtual machine ?
    Me: then why did you ask about the wireless ?

    Him: well i also run it at home on laptop, and at home i connect wirelessly

    Me: at home on the bare hardware or also inside a VM ?

    Him: under Xp

    Me: then the question remains, why have you asked me about wireless ?
    Me: you use windows to connect to the wireless network
    Me: in your virtual machine you have virtual network adapters
    Me: and they all emulate a cable network adapter

    Him: well yes in the virtual machines i connect wirelessly with NAT

    Me: the connection with your AP is made from windows

    Him: yes

    Me: inside the VMs you have virtual adapters
    Me: and none of them emulate a wireless card

    Him: yes they do
    Him: VMnet8
    Him: it's the NAT network
    Him: and through NAT i connect to the wireless card

    (I give up)

    Me: ok

    Him: and through Bridge(VMnet0) i connect to the net by cable
    Him: like it is at work
    Him: and VMnet1(HostOnly)
    Him: when you install vmplayer it creates these virtual networks
    Him: only VMnet1 and VMnet8 are vizible, VMnet0 I don't know
    Him: haven't you worked with vmplayer by now ?

    Me: yes I did

    Him: but you haven't connected to the net with it ?

    Me: yes I did

    Him: k
    Him: i tried to call you but failed
    Him: don't you have phone ?

    Me: no

    After that last line, I quickly packed my stuff and rushed for the exit.

    Now, this isn't such a WTF by itself, but I happen to work for a company that is large and sky like. I'm a tester. He's a developer.



  • @Alex said:

    This is a translated conversation between me and a coworker:

    Him: sorry to bother you but I have a problem configuring a Linux distro: Slackware12. I can't connect to the net. Unlike other distributions this doesn't automatically connect to the internet. How do I do it, do you have any suggestions ? If you're busy and can't help me that's ok, it's just that I don't know who to ask for help, especially since I don't really have much experience configuring a linux

    Me: and to what net source do you want to connect ?

    Him: I want to connect at work

    Me: wireless or utp ?

    Him: and besides this I want to connect from home
    Him: utp here, wireless home

    Me: do you know on what interface your network card is (eth0 or eth1 or etc) ?

    Him: eth1

    Me: ok, try (as root) "dhclient eth1"
    Me: with the condition that the cable is plugged into your computer

    Him: only this ?
    Him: look like it
    Him: is this valid for wireless too ?

    Me:it's a little more complicated for wireless
    Me: wep or wpa ?

    Him: no security

    Me: then it's easy :)
    Me: is eth0 the wireless ?

    Him: i think so, don't really know

    Me: well, let's pretend it is
    Me: as root, "iwconfig eth0 essid your_SID"
    Me: and then dhclient eth0 so that the dhcp server can give you an ip

    Him: does it also work for mac
    Him: if I specify the mac instead of SID

    Me: i think so, 2 sec
    Me: iwconfig eth0 ap xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx

    Him: right
    Him: and if it has security what must i do ?
    Him: what's different ?

    Me: depends on the distro
    Me: if you want to do everything manually, you must also execute "iwconfig eth0 key key_in_hex"
    Me: or if you want ascii, "iwconfig eth0 key s:key_in_ascii"
    Me: this is for wep
    Me: for wpa, you need a helper program, wpasupplicant or xsupplicant, one of those
    Me: and you need to modify a configuration file
    Me: once again, all of this is for manual set-up
    Me: but for sure there's a scripted way to do this
    Me: unfortunately, it's distro-specific

    Him: do you know the slackware specific way ?
    Him: or how can i find it ?

    Me: no; search for slackware forum

    Him: k
    Him: thank you and sorry for bothering you

    Me: np
    Me: here's a link that sounds nice: http://www.slackware.com/book/

    Now it would have been the perfect moment to end the conversation, and feel good the rest of the day that I helped somebody learn somehing new. But of course, I didn't.

    Me: a question now: why did you installed slack ? is it a requirement or you just wanted to ?

    Him: well it has kdevelop and a ton of other functionalities that I didn't found on other distros

    (What???)

    Him: why do you ask ?

    Me: because it's not a very user-friendly distro

    Him: i didn't install it i'm using the virtual machine that i run with vmplayer

    Me: even so
    Me: and wait a minute
    Me: you're using a virtual machine ?
    Me: then why did you ask about the wireless ?

    Him: well i also run it at home on laptop, and at home i connect wirelessly

    Me: at home on the bare hardware or also inside a VM ?

    Him: under Xp

    Me: then the question remains, why have you asked me about wireless ?
    Me: you use windows to connect to the wireless network
    Me: in your virtual machine you have virtual network adapters
    Me: and they all emulate a cable network adapter

    Him: well yes in the virtual machines i connect wirelessly with NAT

    Me: the connection with your AP is made from windows

    Him: yes

    Me: inside the VMs you have virtual adapters
    Me: and none of them emulate a wireless card

    Him: yes they do
    Him: VMnet8
    Him: it's the NAT network
    Him: and through NAT i connect to the wireless card

    (I give up)

    Me: ok

    Him: and through Bridge(VMnet0) i connect to the net by cable
    Him: like it is at work
    Him: and VMnet1(HostOnly)
    Him: when you install vmplayer it creates these virtual networks
    Him: only VMnet1 and VMnet8 are vizible, VMnet0 I don't know
    Him: haven't you worked with vmplayer by now ?

    Me: yes I did

    Him: but you haven't connected to the net with it ?

    Me: yes I did

    Him: k
    Him: i tried to call you but failed
    Him: don't you have phone ?

    Me: no

    After that last line, I quickly packed my stuff and rushed for the exit.

    Now, this isn't such a WTF by itself, but I happen to work for a company that is large and sky like. I'm a tester. He's a developer.

     

    Holy lack of linefeeds batman!

    @Alex said:

    You fail

    Indeed.



  •  This is a translated conversation between me and a coworker:

     

    Him: sorry to bother you but I have a problem configuring a Linux distro: Slackware12. I can't connect to the net. Unlike other distributions this doesn't automatically connect to the internet. How do I do it, do you have any suggestions ? If you're busy and can't help me that's ok, it's just that I don't know who to ask for help, especially since I don't really have much experience configuring a linux

    Me: and to what net source do you want to connect ?

    Him: I want to connect at work

    Me: wireless or utp ?

    Him: and besides this I want to connect from home

    Him: utp here, wireless home

    Me: do you know on what interface your network card is (eth0 or eth1 or etc) ?

    Him: eth1

    Me: ok, try (as root) "dhclient eth1"

    Me: with the condition that the cable is plugged into your computer

    Him: only this ?

    Him: look like it

    Him: is this valid for wireless too ?

    Me:it's a little more complicated for wireless

    Me: wep or wpa ?

    Him: no security

    Me: then it's easy :)

    Me: is eth0 the wireless ?

    Him: i think so, don't really know

    Me: well, let's pretend it is

    Me: as root, "iwconfig eth0 essid your_SID"

    Me: and then dhclient eth0 so that the dhcp server can give you an ip

    Him: does it also work for mac

    Him: if I specify the mac instead of SID

    Me: i think so, 2 sec

    Me: iwconfig eth0 ap xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx

    Him: right

    Him: and if it has security what must i do ?

    Him: what's different ?

    Me: depends on the distro

    Me: if you want to do everything manually, you must also execute "iwconfig eth0 key key_in_hex"

    Me: or if you want ascii, "iwconfig eth0 key s:key_in_ascii"

    Me: this is for wep

    Me: for wpa, you need a helper program, wpasupplicant or xsupplicant, one of those

    Me: and you need to modify a configuration file

    Me: once again, all of this is for manual set-up

    Me: but for sure there's a scripted way to do this

    Me: unfortunately, it's distro-specific

    Him: do you know the slackware specific way ?

    Him: or how can i find it ?

    Me: no; search for slackware forum

    Him: k

    Him: thank you and sorry for bothering you

    Me: np

    Me: here's a link that sounds nice: http://www.slackware.com/book/ Now it would have been the perfect moment to end the conversation, and feel good the rest of the day that I helped somebody learn somehing new. But of course, I didn't.

    Me: a question now: why did you installed slack ? is it a requirement or you just wanted to ?

    Him: well it has kdevelop and a ton of other functionalities that I didn't found on other distros (What???)

    Him: why do you ask ?

    Me: because it's not a very user-friendly distro

    Him: i didn't install it i'm using the virtual machine that i run with vmplayer

    Me: even so

    Me: and wait a minute

    Me: you're using a virtual machine ?

    Me: then why did you ask about the wireless ?

    Him: well i also run it at home on laptop, and at home i connect wirelessly

    Me: at home on the bare hardware or also inside a VM ?

    Him: under Xp

    Me: then the question remains, why have you asked me about wireless ?

    Me: you use windows to connect to the wireless network

    Me: in your virtual machine you have virtual network adapters

    Me: and they all emulate a cable network adapter

    Him: well yes in the virtual machines i connect wirelessly with NAT

    Me: the connection with your AP is made from windows

    Him: yes

    Me: inside the VMs you have *virtual* adapters

    Me: and none of them emulate a wireless card

    Him: yes they do

    Him: VMnet8

    Him: it's the NAT network

    Him: and through NAT i connect to the wireless card (I give up)

    Me: ok

    Him: and through Bridge(VMnet0) i connect to the net by cable

    Him: like it is at work

    Him: and VMnet1(HostOnly)

    Him: when you install vmplayer it creates these virtual networks

    Him: only VMnet1 and VMnet8 are vizible, VMnet0 I don't know

    Him: haven't you worked with vmplayer by now ?

    Me: yes I did

    Him: but you haven't connected to the net with it ?

    Me: yes I did

    Him: k

    Him: i tried to call you but failed

    Him: don't you have phone ?

    Me: no

     

    After that last line, I quickly packed my stuff and rushed for the exit. Now, this isn't such a WTF by itself, but I happen to work for a company that is large and sky like. I'm a tester. He's a developer.



  •  Seems TDWTF hates konqueror; and forum admins hate edits made minutes later with firefox.



  • I nominate for most appropriately titled post of the year award. ;)



  • @jcoehoorn said:

    I nominate for most appropriately titled post of the year award. ;)

    Seconded!



  • Ha !! I want to see you get a gold medal with your post #1 ! In your face !! 



  • @Alex said:

    Ha !! I want to see you get a gold medal with your post #1 ! In your face !! 

     

    Um. Couldn't we just use new lines and win by comparison?

    Or come up with something funny/WTFish/interesting?



  • Tried that; the text was copy/pasted from an editor. 



  •  @Alex said:

    Tried that; the text was copy/pasted from an editor. 

    Then why are you getting upset at people for picking on you? That is the whole point of this site.

    About 2 out of 10 sidebar posts each day are picked on for being lame.... it isn't like you are the only one.



  •  I'm not upset :), what gave you that idea ? I've read tdwtf for a while, I know what to expect.



  • TLDR 



  • Him: and if it has security what must i do ?

    Him: what's different ?

    Me: depends on the distro


     That's the real WTF right there.

     

     

     



  • So he didn't fully understand how the virtual networking in a Virtual Machine worked? Nothing really WTFy about that: lots of people don't get it. Hell, I was porting Qemu to a different OS last week and I was confused at times: bridging, NAT, virtual lans (Which Qemu unhelpfuly calls VLANs, which are something totally different), virtual adaptors, LANs, IP forwarding and any all combinations of the above. Anything moderatly complicated can get confusing real fast if you're not paying attention, because there are just so many layers and abstractions and translations going on.



  • The WTF is not in not knowing, it is in not believing it when it is explained.



  • I don't know if I should believe you.



  • @ince said:

    I don't know if I should believe you.
     

    wtf! 


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