Indecisive Java update



  • This happens every few weeks, on more then one of my computers

    and naturally, you would think clicking it would open an "Java Update" dialog or at the very least take me to Sun's website.

    But without fail for the past few months, clicking on it bring me this message



  • Long shot. 

    Check your Add/Remove Programs dialog. Are there multiple Javas installed? Try binning all of them and installing a fresh copy.



  • I think it's Open Office (I see the icon there in the screenshot). 
    This started happening on my partner's XP laptop as soon as she installed OO. No idea why it should though...



  • Does the same thing when it upsells Open office



  • "ready to be installed" sounds fishy to me.  I usually get "a new version is available for download" or something.  Maybe the upgrader does the old deal where it downloads all the install files and then tells you it's ready to install it.  If it failed to cleanup some install files, could be causing your problems.

    / That or it's just that you're running multiple versions, and it's telling you the one is out of date, but not letting you install the new one because, well, you already have it.



  • @Benn said:

    I think it's Open Office (I see the icon there in the screenshot).
    This started happening on my partner's XP laptop as soon as she installed OO. No idea why it should though...

    Sounds logical.  When you download OOo, you should make sure to download the version that doesn't come with the JRE. 



  • Windows Installer is horribly buggy. Old news. It does this from time to time, for no particularly apparent reason. Uninstall, scrub out the files left behind on the hard drive, and reinstall. If that doesn't fix it, you may need to perform major surgery on the installer database; I usually just scrub and reinstall/reimage windows at that point, it's less effort.



  • @asuffield said:

    Windows Installer is horribly buggy. Old news. It does this from time to time, for no particularly apparent reason. Uninstall, scrub out the files left behind on the hard drive, and reinstall. If that doesn't fix it, you may need to perform major surgery on the installer database; I usually just scrub and reinstall/reimage windows at that point, it's less effort.

     

    What, just to make the "new version of Java available" prompt go away?  Is it really that bad?

     



  • @emurphy said:

    @asuffield said:

    Windows Installer is horribly buggy. Old news. It does this from time to time, for no particularly apparent reason. Uninstall, scrub out the files left behind on the hard drive, and reinstall. If that doesn't fix it, you may need to perform major surgery on the installer database; I usually just scrub and reinstall/reimage windows at that point, it's less effort.

    What, just to make the "new version of Java available" prompt go away?  Is it really that bad?

    If it's the bug I'm used to seeing, yes. It has become confused about what is currently installed and there's just no simple way to correct it. 



  • @asuffield said:

    @emurphy said:

    @asuffield said:

    Windows Installer is horribly buggy. Old news. It does this from time to time, for no particularly apparent reason. Uninstall, scrub out the files left behind on the hard drive, and reinstall. If that doesn't fix it, you may need to perform major surgery on the installer database; I usually just scrub and reinstall/reimage windows at that point, it's less effort.

    What, just to make the "new version of Java available" prompt go away?  Is it really that bad?

    If it's the bug I'm used to seeing, yes. It has become confused about what is currently installed and there's just no simple way to correct it. 

    Doesn't the JRE have it's own updater that's doing this?  It's that jusched.exe process you see running... 



  • @shadowman said:

    @asuffield said:
    @emurphy said:

    @asuffield said:

    Windows Installer is horribly buggy. Old news. It does this from time to time, for no particularly apparent reason. Uninstall, scrub out the files left behind on the hard drive, and reinstall. If that doesn't fix it, you may need to perform major surgery on the installer database; I usually just scrub and reinstall/reimage windows at that point, it's less effort.

    What, just to make the "new version of Java available" prompt go away?  Is it really that bad?

    If it's the bug I'm used to seeing, yes. It has become confused about what is currently installed and there's just no simple way to correct it. 

    Doesn't the JRE have it's own updater that's doing this?  It's that jusched.exe process you see running... 

    As of 1.5 (1.4?) it's a thin wrapper around Windows Installer. 



  • @asuffield said:

    Windows Installer is horribly buggy. Old news. It does this from time to time, for no particularly apparent reason. Uninstall, scrub out the files left behind on the hard drive, and reinstall. If that doesn't fix it, you may need to perform major surgery on the installer database; I usually just scrub and reinstall/reimage windows at that point, it's less effort.

    Heads up, everybody! There's a bug in Sun's Java updater, so it must be part of the "evil Microsoft world domination strategy". Andrew says so in every post he responds to, so it must be the truth!

    Seriously, Andrew. If Sun can't write a decent updater for it's software (even if what it decides to use is a "thin wrapper around MSI" as you say a little later on), how on Earth can that be Microsoft's fault? It's clearly Sun's fault if the issue is with their software, and it's Open Office's fault if the issue lies there. To blame it on Microsoft is like my blaming you for the London subway terrorist attack because you happen to live in the UK. 



  • And yet again you use his actual name!  have some respect.  Wish I were a mod.



  • @belgariontheking said:

    And yet again you use his actual name!  have some respect.  Wish I were a mod.

    Immediately popped into my head:

    <font face="ARIAL" size="2">"All right, let's get to know one another.
    With the exception of Eddie and myself, who you already know, you'll be
    using aliases. Under no circumstances are you to tell one another your
    real name or anything else about yourself. That includes where you're
    from, your wife's name, where you might've done time, about a bank in
    St. Petersburg you might've robbed. You guys don't say shit about who
    you are, where you been or what you've done. Only thing you guys can
    talk about is what you're going to do. This way the only ones who know
    who the members of the team are are Eddie and myself. And that's the
    way I like it. Because in the unlikely event of one of you getting
    apprehended by the cops, not that I expect that to happen - it most
    definitely should not happen - it hasn't happened, you don't have
    anything to deal with. You don't know any names. You know my name, you
    know Eddie's name. That I don't care about. You gotta prove it. I ain't
    worried. Besides, this way you gotta trust me. I like that. I set this
    up and picked the men I wanted for it. None of you came to me, I
    approached all of you. I know you. I know your work, I know your
    reputation. I know you as men. Except for this guy. But he's OK. If he
    wasn't OK, he wouldn't be here.
    "</font>



  • @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @belgariontheking said:

    And yet again you use his actual name!  have some respect.  Wish I were a mod.

    Immediately popped into my head:

    <font face="ARIAL" size="2">"All right, let's get to know one another.
    With the exception of Eddie and myself, who you already know, you'll be
    using aliases. Under no circumstances are you to tell one another your
    real name or anything else about yourself. That includes where you're
    from, your wife's name, where you might've done time, about a bank in
    St. Petersburg you might've robbed. You guys don't say shit about who
    you are, where you been or what you've done. Only thing you guys can
    talk about is what you're going to do. This way the only ones who know
    who the members of the team are are Eddie and myself. And that's the
    way I like it. Because in the unlikely event of one of you getting
    apprehended by the cops, not that I expect that to happen - it most
    definitely should not happen - it hasn't happened, you don't have
    anything to deal with. You don't know any names. You know my name, you
    know Eddie's name. That I don't care about. You gotta prove it. I ain't
    worried. Besides, this way you gotta trust me. I like that. I set this
    up and picked the men I wanted for it. None of you came to me, I
    approached all of you. I know you. I know your work, I know your
    reputation. I know you as men. Except for this guy. But he's OK. If he
    wasn't OK, he wouldn't be here.
    "</font>

    Now I want to change my username and picture to "Mr Pink" 



  • @belgariontheking said:

    @MasterPlanSoftware said:

    @belgariontheking said:

    And yet again you use his actual name!  have some respect.  Wish I were a mod.

    Immediately popped into my head:

    <font face="ARIAL" size="2">"All right, let's get to know one another.
    With the exception of Eddie and myself, who you already know, you'll be
    using aliases. Under no circumstances are you to tell one another your
    real name or anything else about yourself. That includes where you're
    from, your wife's name, where you might've done time, about a bank in
    St. Petersburg you might've robbed. You guys don't say shit about who
    you are, where you been or what you've done. Only thing you guys can
    talk about is what you're going to do. This way the only ones who know
    who the members of the team are are Eddie and myself. And that's the
    way I like it. Because in the unlikely event of one of you getting
    apprehended by the cops, not that I expect that to happen - it most
    definitely should not happen - it hasn't happened, you don't have
    anything to deal with. You don't know any names. You know my name, you
    know Eddie's name. That I don't care about. You gotta prove it. I ain't
    worried. Besides, this way you gotta trust me. I like that. I set this
    up and picked the men I wanted for it. None of you came to me, I
    approached all of you. I know you. I know your work, I know your
    reputation. I know you as men. Except for this guy. But he's OK. If he
    wasn't OK, he wouldn't be here.
    "</font>

    Now I want to change my username and picture to "Mr Pink" 

    Oh, damn. My ability to recall dialogue across years is failing, because I was thinking of The Usual Suspects. 


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