German Amazon WTF



  • [URL=http://img214.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=33485_German_Amazon_WTF_122_120lo.jpg][IMG]http://img214.imagevenue.com/loc120/th_33485_German_Amazon_WTF_122_120lo.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

    Maybe "below 10 Euro" does not mean below EUR 10,00...



  • @jo-82 said:

    [URL=http://img214.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=33485_German_Amazon_WTF_122_120lo.jpg][IMG]http://img214.imagevenue.com/loc120/th_33485_German_Amazon_WTF_122_120lo.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

    Maybe "below 10 Euro" does not mean below EUR 10,00...

    TRWTF is Video Strip Poker being rated 12+, while some child-friendly, yet contain a little play-fighting, games rated 16+ (not shown in picture).



  • @CapitalT said:

    TRWTF is Video Strip Poker being rated 12+, while some child-friendly, yet contain a little play-fighting, games rated 16+ (not shown in picture).

    I guess it means that breasts are not considered dangerous in Germany. Who'd have thought!



  • @magetoo said:

    @CapitalT said:
    TRWTF is Video Strip Poker being rated 12+, while some child-friendly, yet contain a little play-fighting, games rated 16+ (not shown in picture).

    I guess it means that breasts are not considered dangerous in Germany. Who'd have thought!
    So, they use a different rating than ESRB?
    OK, nevermind.



  • @jo-82 said:

    [URL=http://img214.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=33485_German_Amazon_WTF_122_120lo.jpg][IMG]http://img214.imagevenue.com/loc120/th_33485_German_Amazon_WTF_122_120lo.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

    Maybe "below 10 Euro" does not mean below EUR 10,00...

    I actually found the same on komplett.ie



  • @CapitalT said:

    TRWTF is Video Strip Poker being rated 12+, while some child-friendly, yet contain a little play-fighting, games rated 16+ (not shown in picture).
    Sounds like Germany don't have the puritan "won't somebody think of the children!!!" brigade some out at even the mere suggestion of a nipple.

    A long way away in a galaxy somewhere else, blah blah...

    Once upon a time there was a game based on your character being a criminal. Killing other people in this game was expected, and even rewarded. Many parts of the game even required it. Killing opposing gang members, innocent civilians, police, and prostitutes was a fun diversion. Fists would do in a pinch, however for real fun you had to use machine guns, flame-throwers, missile launchers, and who knows what else on your fellow simulated people.

    However, then the darkness came. A mod was found which insterted a lame minigame into the game where you very poorly simulated sex with the same prostitutes that you were supposed to kill.

    And the fiery wrath of hell rained down on all involved. This simply could not be tolerated! A national emergency was declared,and an investigation was launched into this demonic game that allowed little Timmy, with the assistance of the mod, to have a non-graphic farce of a sexual interlude with a group of pixels in the form of a prostitute. I'm sorry, but in this country we only let little Timmy kill simulated prostitutes, be it with baseball bats or machine guns.

     

    OK, it's only a fun story, but wouldn't it be soooo freaky if it was actually true? Wait a minute...



  • @RayS said:

    And the fiery wrath of hell rained down on all involved. This simply could not be tolerated! A national emergency was declared,and an investigation was launched into this demonic game that allowed little Timmy, with the assistance of the mod, to have a non-graphic farce of a sexual interlude with a group of pixels in the form of a prostitute. I'm sorry, but in this country we only let little Timmy kill simulated prostitutes, be it with baseball bats or machine guns.

    Timmy is also allowed to deliver hoes and pimp them. Just not use them himself.



  • The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion's mod was funny too in the US:

    The ESRB has re-rated Bethesda's acclaimed RPG title Oblivion, following the discovery of a third party modification that adds female topless nudity to the game [...] In the US, the Xbox 360 and PC title was initially rated T (Teen 13+) and carries a standard ESRB description of Violence, Blood and Gore, Sexual Themes, Language, and Use of Alcohol. As a direct result of the third party modification available from the Internet, the game will be re-rated as M (Mature)

    I suppose a 13 years old is allowed to kill in a bloody way, but seeing a breat is just too much



  • @CapitalT said:

    TRWTF is Video Strip Poker being rated 12+, while some child-friendly, yet contain a little play-fighting, games rated 16+ (not shown in picture).

    Not really a WTF. Nudity is not a big deal in Europe, unlike in America. Had the Janet Jackson Superbowl "incident" occurred on Euro TV, the reaction would've been "ho-hum" and "oooh, look, B-grade celebrities pretending to have talent!", rather than the puritan witch hunt it became in the U.S.

    Now, had Janet Jackson blown off Timberlake's head, the reaction would've been reversed. In the U.S. the NRA would complain she used the wrong type of gun and ammo but otherwise approve, while in Europe there'd be government inquiries in how such a thing could ever possibly have been televised, with criminal charges for all. 



  • @CapitalT said:

    So, they use a different rating than ESRB?
    OK, nevermind.

    Most european countries use PEGI (Pan European Game Information). See http://www.pegi.info for the classifications and some explanations of the different categories. 



  • @MarcB said:

    Not really a WTF. Nudity is not a big deal in Europe, unlike in America. Had the Janet Jackson Superbowl "incident" occurred on Euro TV, the reaction would've been "ho-hum" and "oooh, look, B-grade celebrities pretending to have talent!", rather than the puritan witch hunt it became in the U.S.

    Now, had Janet Jackson blown off Timberlake's head, the reaction would've been reversed. In the U.S. the NRA would complain she used the wrong type of gun and ammo but otherwise approve, while in Europe there'd be government inquiries in how such a thing could ever possibly have been televised, with criminal charges for all.

    In summary, the U.S. the has right to bear arms, European nations have the right to bare boobs. I know which I prefer! 



  • @lepidosteus said:

    The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion's mod was funny too in the US:

    The ESRB has re-rated Bethesda's acclaimed RPG title Oblivion, following the discovery of a third party modification that adds female topless nudity to the game [...] In the US, the Xbox 360 and PC title was initially rated T (Teen 13+) and carries a standard ESRB description of Violence, Blood and Gore, Sexual Themes, Language, and Use of Alcohol. As a direct result of the third party modification available from the Internet, the game will be re-rated as M (Mature)

    I suppose a 13 years old is allowed to kill in a bloody way, but seeing a breat is just too much

    Wait a minute, that is just fucking ridiculous.  Ignoring the way our ratings system handles violence and sex, it is just flat-out wrong to relabel a game based on a THIRD-PARTY mod.  If you set that precedent, you have to do that for EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME EVER MADE.  I cannot think of a game that doesn't have a nude patch out there somewhere.



  • @luke727 said:

    @lepidosteus said:

    The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion's mod was funny too in the US:

    The ESRB has re-rated Bethesda's acclaimed RPG title Oblivion, following the discovery of a third party modification that adds female topless nudity to the game [...] In the US, the Xbox 360 and PC title was initially rated T (Teen 13+) and carries a standard ESRB description of Violence, Blood and Gore, Sexual Themes, Language, and Use of Alcohol. As a direct result of the third party modification available from the Internet, the game will be re-rated as M (Mature)

    I suppose a 13 years old is allowed to kill in a bloody way, but seeing a breat is just too much

    Wait a minute, that is just fucking ridiculous.  Ignoring the way our ratings system handles violence and sex, it is just flat-out wrong to relabel a game based on a THIRD-PARTY mod.  If you set that precedent, you have to do that for EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME EVER MADE.  I cannot think of a game that doesn't have a nude patch out there somewhere.

    Which is the TRWTF (as always) is people. Stupid. Frakking. People.



  • @luke727 said:

    @lepidosteus said:

    The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion's mod was funny too in the US:

    The ESRB has re-rated Bethesda's acclaimed RPG title Oblivion, following the discovery of a third party modification that adds female topless nudity to the game [...] In the US, the Xbox 360 and PC title was initially rated T (Teen 13+) and carries a standard ESRB description of Violence, Blood and Gore, Sexual Themes, Language, and Use of Alcohol. As a direct result of the third party modification available from the Internet, the game will be re-rated as M (Mature)

    I suppose a 13 years old is allowed to kill in a bloody way, but seeing a breat is just too much

    Wait a minute, that is just fucking ridiculous.  Ignoring the way our ratings system handles violence and sex, it is just flat-out wrong to relabel a game based on a THIRD-PARTY mod.  If you set that precedent, you have to do that for EVERY SINGLE FUCKING GAME EVER MADE.  I cannot think of a game that doesn't have a nude patch out there somewhere.

    Hmm.  After researching it further it appears that the topless texture is actually shipped on the game disc (though I find this somewhat hard to believe).  Now I'm not so sure they did the wrong thing.  It's one thing if the third-party mod adds the texture, but it's something else if the texture is already in the game (even if it is locked/hidden).  IMHO, the manufacturer has to be liable for ALL content shipped on the disc.  So some joker stuck a topless texture in the game and now he cost his company a lot of money.  For the record, I feel the same way about "Hot Coffee"; if it's shipped on the disc (even if hidden) you still have to be held responsible for it.  Granted I think the way we treat violence versus sexuality is stupid, but the rules are what they are and you've got to follow them.  I mean really, how hard would it have been to delete the topless texture before shipping (or not inserting it in the first place)?



  • Exactly. The Oblivion issue was that the textures were there, on the models, just covered up with another texture. In fact, a graphic glitch would concievably reveal the breasts even on an unpatched game. Notice that Sims, who were also targeted for having a third party "genitals" mod, had no problem, since the basic models were just barbie dolls.

     

    The reason it was there is because the first two Elder Scrolls games had bare breasts. They were considering adding them back in, but decided against it. But the method they used was pretty lazy and short sighted.

     

     

    Every country has a problem with something. Germans flip out over nazis, China flips out over democracy, and America flips out over boobies. 



  • @NerfTW said:

    Notice that Sims, who were also targeted for having a third party "genitals" mod, had no problem, since the basic models were just barbie dolls.
    Hmm... perhaps the real WTF is that despite all this, Barbie dolls are still sold without clothing painted over their breasts. Very young children will not only be seeing but also touching pretend breasts! The horror!



  • It always annoys me when someone goes on an "anti-puritan" rant.  Yes, it's weird that nudity is taboo.  It's also weird that fake violence is taboo.  Humanity in general can be kind of strange, this is not news.



  • @luke727 said:

    Hmm.  After researching it further it appears that the topless texture is actually shipped on the game disc (though I find this somewhat hard to believe).  Now I'm not so sure they did the wrong thing.
    IIRC, the "topless" texture was supposed to be used on male models.



  • @ender said:

    @luke727 said:
    Hmm.  After researching it further it appears that the topless texture is actually shipped on the game disc (though I find this somewhat hard to believe).  Now I'm not so sure they did the wrong thing.
    IIRC, the "topless" texture was supposed to be used on male models.

    Well that's just weird. Everyone knows that only women's chests are naughty!



  • @ender said:

    @luke727 said:
    Hmm.  After researching it further it appears that the topless texture is actually shipped on the game disc (though I find this somewhat hard to believe).  Now I'm not so sure they did the wrong thing.
    IIRC, the "topless" texture was supposed to be used on male models.

    No, it's even worse than that. In a pretty effective effort to improve the realism of the people in the game, Bethesda did away with the traditional method of modelling a person-with-clothes-painted-on-their-surface actor. Instead, they modelled people naked and then hung clothing off them as a separate object, so it could move more naturally.

    The 'topless mod' just removes the clothing from the model.

    The ESRB objected to the fact that in the game models, the people are naked underneath their clothing. 

    This is a ban on effective modelling of humans wearing clothing in games. It's also insane.



  • @RayS said:

    And the fiery wrath of hell rained down on all involved. This simply could not be tolerated! A national emergency was declared,and an investigation was launched into this demonic game that allowed little Timmy, with the assistance of the mod, to have a non-graphic farce of a sexual interlude with a group of pixels in the form of a prostitute. I'm sorry, but in this country we only let little Timmy kill simulated prostitutes, be it with baseball bats or machine guns.

    Funny thing is they changed the rating from Mature (16+) or Mature 17+ (can't rmember which) to Adult Only. Two years difference at best. Honestly, I seriously doubt that will damage any 16 year olds brain more than the massive amounts of porn stashed on his hard-drive, the party drugs/alchohol he's consuming or the fact that he's playing a game that simulates killing massive amounts of people. Mind you, the first and last things on that list are actually mentally healthy for normal humans. Psychopaths will just end up triggering faster meaning they can be "fixed" or "corrected" faster by thier governments "correction" facilities.



  • The real WTFs are Europeans tacitly approving 16+ ratings for games containing cartoon violence, then calling Americans "Puritans" for frowning on sexually charged nudity like that found in a strip poker game.  This isn't nudity like that found on a beach or in a locker room-- it's stripping.  It's sexually oriented; and it's questionable to allow a child to access it for the same reason that it's questionable to allow a child to play Doom 3.



  • @asuffield said:

    @ender said:

    @luke727 said:
    Hmm.  After researching it further it appears that the topless texture is actually shipped on the game disc (though I find this somewhat hard to believe).  Now I'm not so sure they did the wrong thing.
    IIRC, the "topless" texture was supposed to be used on male models.

    No, it's even worse than that. In a pretty effective effort to improve the realism of the people in the game, Bethesda did away with the traditional method of modelling a person-with-clothes-painted-on-their-surface actor. Instead, they modelled people naked and then hung clothing off them as a separate object, so it could move more naturally.

    The 'topless mod' just removes the clothing from the model.

    The ESRB objected to the fact that in the game models, the people are naked underneath their clothing. 

    This is a ban on effective modelling of humans wearing clothing in games. It's also insane.

     

    Once again, no. They objected to the fact that nipples were included on the naked models, which would have bumped the game's rating up a bit. It is not an automatic adults only rating. Keep in mind God of War has many naked characters in it. 

     

    Bethesda's mistake was that they didn't just take the nipples off the models to avoid such an incident happening.  



  • The real wtf here is your ignorance of the fact that not all countries use dot (.) as a decimal separator. Germany, among many other (European) countries use comma (,) as decimal separator and dot (.) for thousands.

     ----

    Disregard that post, I suck cocks. :(

     



  • @worship said:

    The real wtf here is your ignorance of the fact that not all countries use dot (.) as a decimal separator. Germany, among many other (European) countries use comma (,) as decimal separator and dot (.) for thousands.

    I presume, since they are apparently from Europe, they are already aware of this.  TRWTF then, is Amazon's amazing failure to take this into account on a localized site.


Log in to reply
 

Looks like your connection to What the Daily WTF? was lost, please wait while we try to reconnect.