What's more difficult than "impossible"?
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Perfectly Good MacBooks From 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Activation Lock
It's almost impossible to resell a perfectly functional M1 MacBook because of Apple's security features.
“The functionality of T2 is built into Apple silicon .... But whereas T2 with activation lock is basically impossible to overcome, bypass developers are finding the m1/m2 chips with activation lock even more difficult”
Even more difficult than impossible?
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@Gern_Blaanston said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
Perfectly Good MacBooks From 2020 Are Being Sold for Scrap Because of Activation Lock
It's almost impossible to resell a perfectly functional M1 MacBook because of Apple's security features.
“The functionality of T2 is built into Apple silicon .... But whereas T2 with activation lock is basically impossible to overcome, bypass developers are finding the m1/m2 chips with activation lock even more difficult”
Even more difficult than impossible?
There are smaller and bigger infinities, you know.
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- It's impossible to remove the T2 activation lock.
- Bypassing the lock screen with T2 activation lock is even more difficult [than bypassing the lock screen with TrustZone activation lock or software-enforced activation lock, which is already difficult].
These two statements are not in conflict.
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@Gern_Blaanston Ah, so Apple has discovered a way to kill the secondary market and force everyone (other than apple-addicts) to buy new.
: That's a Win for us!
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@Gern_Blaanston said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
“The functionality of T2 is built into Apple silicon .... But whereas T2 with activation lock is basically impossible to overcome, bypass developers are finding the m1/m2 chips with activation lock even more difficult”
Even more difficult than impossible?
I interpret "Basically impossible" to mean "not quite impossible". So impossible is more difficult than basically impossible.
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@jinpa said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
@Gern_Blaanston said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
“The functionality of T2 is built into Apple silicon .... But whereas T2 with activation lock is basically impossible to overcome, bypass developers are finding the m1/m2 chips with activation lock even more difficult”
Even more difficult than impossible?
I interpret "Basically impossible" to mean "not quite impossible". So impossible is more difficult than basically impossible.
Okay, so the written form for a more impossible thing to break would be (literally) "basically totally impossible".
I should write a style guide.
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Somehow I got useful inspiration from a Gribnit post (!!!).
The problem in this case is Vice's style guide uses "whereas" in the consideration sense, similar to its usage in legal resolutions in the "whereas... therefore be it resolved that..." construction. However, everyday usage (hah) of "whereas" is in the contrarian sense, "whereas in the normal case [something], in this case [not something]".
Replace "whereas" with "because" and it makes sense again.
TL/DR: fucking idiot editors.
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@TwelveBaud said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
fucking idiot editors.
Yes, please. Can't have too many monkeys!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
Can't have too many monkeys!
This is true; any excess will escape (propagating via the familiar "monkeyshines" pattern)
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@TwelveBaud said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
Somehow I got useful inspiration from a Gribnit post (!!!).
The problem in this case is Vice's style guide uses "whereas" in the consideration sense, similar to its usage in legal resolutions in the "whereas... therefore be it resolved that..." construction. However, everyday usage (hah) of "whereas" is in the contrarian sense, "whereas in the normal case [something], in this case [not something]".
Replace "whereas" with "because" and it makes sense again.
TL/DR: fucking idiot editors.
But, to be fair, it achieved controversiality. Literally, totally literally.
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@jinpa said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
I interpret "Basically impossible" to mean "not quite impossible".
I interpret "Basically impossible" as "I don't understand what impossible means".
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@Gern_Blaanston said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
@jinpa said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
I interpret "Basically impossible" to mean "not quite impossible".
I interpret "Basically impossible" as "I don't understand what impossible means".
I interpret "basically impossible" to mean "well that's going to be really very expensive and annoying to do; find some other option".
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@Gern_Blaanston said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
@jinpa said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
I interpret "Basically impossible" to mean "not quite impossible".
Gern
Iinterprets "Basically impossible" as "I don't understand what Basicallyimpossiblemeans".FTFM
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@dkf said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
I interpret "basically impossible" to mean "well that's going to be really very expensive and annoying to do; find some other option".
This sounds right to me.
It seems to me that "basically impossible" is a basterdization of "practically impossible", which is a very precise and useful statement that means that the thing is technically possible, but no one would have the time and/or resources to accomplish it, so the end result is the same as if it were impossible.
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@Jaime said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
It seems to me that "basically impossible" is a basterdization of "practically impossible", which is a very precise and useful statement
And therefore had it coming. We don't cotton to that sort of phrase, not for long. Most likely had to sub in "basically" because basically, it's practically impossible to (totally) overuse a word without (literally) losing precision.
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@dcon said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
@Gern_Blaanston Ah, so Apple has discovered a way to kill the secondary market and force everyone (other than apple-addicts) to buy new.
: That's a Win for us!
Unless you are a big corproration that gives no fucks, this is a non-issue. All that needs to be done to reset a MacBook (or other Apple device) is to go into the settings and hit the "Erase all data and settings" button and go through the several warnings about "Are you sure you want to do this?".
Then after processing and rebooting the Mac will be back to OOBE allowing for a new person to claim ownership! And maybe even discover a nice surprise of all your personal files still being on the computer as some versions of the resetter didn't actually remove everything.
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@Atazhaia said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
maybe even discover a nice surprise of all your personal files still being on the computer as some versions of the resetter didn't actually remove everything.
All your files are exactly where you left them.
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@Gern_Blaanston The key word in your quoted section is "basically," but any qualifier, like "virtually" or "almost," would have the same effect. "Impossible" goes from an absolute to something really really difficult or unlikely (depending on the context). So the question answers itself. What's more difficult than basically impossible? Impossible.
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@Zenith said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
So the question answers itself. What's more difficult than basically impossible? Impossible.
But that wasn't the question, not literally. It was more basically stated, with no qualifier. So the answer requires a superlative, e.g. "mega impossible".
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@Atazhaia said in What's more difficult than "impossible"?:
All that needs to be done to reset a MacBook (or other Apple device) is to go into the settings and hit the "Erase all data and settings" button
