GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD
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FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So... Anyone knows how to register on Discord with temporary email without sending them real phone number? Or do I have to make a throwaway "real" email account?
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(immediate topic drift) Yeah, I hate sites/services that require, or rather, assume you have a phone. Like that one time I tried to register a Google account and it absolutely mandated I either give them an existing email address or my phone number.
I don't really intend to ever get a "proper" modern phone, so I can only foresee this becoming more and more of an issue.
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@Gąska said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
So... Anyone knows how to register on Discord with temporary email without sending them real phone number? Or do I have to make a throwaway "real" email account?
No, I do not normally attempt to subvert ban-avoidance detection systems. Best make a "real" email account.
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@Gąska Does the "support" link offer any help? Or is that why you're asking about email?
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@kazitor said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
@Gąska Does the "support" link offer any help? Or is that why you're asking about email?
I percieve he used one of those five-minute-email things, and Discord was like, "fuck off with your obviously temporary account, bitch!"
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@Tsaukpaetra That does make sense given the question.
I suppose you could try to find a more obscure temp email service? Although in recent years I've been worn down to the point where I don't even care about giving an email address any more. It's separate from my personal address and doesn't contain my name, so it's good enough.
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@kazitor said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
@Gąska Does the "support" link offer any help?
Since I used 10minutemail, I'm 99% positive that I'm NOT seeing this by mistake.
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One of the "real" emails failed to receive verification message. Trying with GMail now. I'm surprised they're okay with me not providing either another email or phone number. I remember them being much more PITA about those in the past.
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Okay so GMail works. For now. Because while googling about the problem, I've found that many people get the verification request after months of using it.
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@kazitor said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
(immediate topic drift) Yeah, I hate sites/services that require, or rather, assume you have a phone. Like that one time I tried to register a Google account and it absolutely mandated I either give them an existing email address or my phone number.
I don't really intend to ever get a "proper" modern phone, so I can only foresee this becoming more and more of an issue.
Most of the "wants a phone number" things that I've seen are so they can send you an SMS text message (with a confirmation code), which even antique dinosaur GSM phones from 1998 can receive.
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@Steve_The_Cynic I'm referring to wanting an app, usually for (enforced) 2FA
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Just use a Google Voice number.
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@pie_flavor I can't.
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@Gąska why not?
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The dialog roughly translates to "Account error - couldn't create Google Voice account."
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@pie_flavor found this: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/voice/WWBLKo-sVKc
Apparently Google only likes spammers who have their tunnel endpoint located in USA.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
send you an SMS text message
... and also be able to tie your account to an external account that is almost 100% certain to have your real identity attached to it. That's also one reason why SMS verification schemes typically don't let you use, say, a Google Voice number, which is less likely to allow ascertainment of your real identity. It's OK, not a big d-
T-Mobile, Sprint, and AT&T Are Selling Customers' Real-Time Location Data, And It's Falling Into the Wrong Hands
T-Mobile, Sprint, and AT&T are selling access to their customers’ location data, and that data is ending up in the hands of bounty hunters and others not authorized to possess it, letting them track most phones in the country.
Oh.
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@lolwhat said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
It's OK, not a big d-
T-Mobile, Sprint, and AT&T Are Selling Customers' Real-Time Location Data, And It's Falling Into the Wrong Hands
T-Mobile, Sprint, and AT&T are selling access to their customers’ location data, and that data is ending up in the hands of bounty hunters and others not authorized to possess it, letting them track most phones in the country.
Oh.
It's still not a big deal.
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@kazitor said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
@Steve_The_Cynic I'm referring to wanting an app, usually for (enforced) 2FA
Oh. I've never seen anything doing ... Um. Well, yes, I have. Steam Guard does that, but all the rest just send me an SMS. It's still 2FA because the usual definition I've seen of 2FA is "something you know and something you have"(1):
- "something you know" == password
- "something you have" == the phone that receives the SMS.
Hmm. And of course TOTP "code" apps, but they can be any TOTP app, and they don't have to run on a phone. WinAuth does a solid job of it, they say, and runs on a Windows PC.
(1) There's also something that appeared on TDWTF under the name "wish it were 2FA", talking about "something you know" (password) and "something else you know" ("secret" security questions).
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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this:
...Yes, there's a verification tier that requires you to have a verified phone before you can participate. Not that the public discords I know would go up to that (usually they use third-party bots to utilize verification level because DISCORD BOTS ARE JUST IRC BOTS 2.0), but I wouldn't know...
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@Steve_The_Cynic Except as I understand SMS is easy to intercept, both via over-the-air monitoring of traffic, or social engineering attacks at the mobile operator.
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@Gąska said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
@kazitor said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
@Gąska Does the "support" link offer any help?
Since I used 10minutemail, I'm 99% positive that I'm NOT seeing this by mistake.
Just going to leave this here in case anyone might find it useful:
EDIT: Ugh, the onebox doesn't let you actually click, so here: https://gist.github.com/nocturnalgeek/1b8fa44283314544c487
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@Gąska said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
It's still not a big deal.
Is "I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a statement" an OK statement to use outside the Garage?
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@PleegWat said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
@Steve_The_Cynic Except as I understand SMS is easy to intercept, both via over-the-air monitoring of traffic, or social engineering attacks at the mobile operator.
Both of which require knowing something about the victim to be successful. Most people are completely immune to these attacks, simply because they're not worth it.
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@lolwhat said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
@Gąska said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
It's still not a big deal.
Is "I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a statement" an OK statement to use outside the Garage?
Yeah, I guess. Should I understand it as that you disagree that people you never met being able to find out your home address, your employer, your marital status, and your kids' school with little effort is completely harmless for most people?
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@Gąska said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
Should I understand it as that you disagree that people you never met being able to find out your home address, your employer, your marital status, and your kids' school with little effort is completely harmless for most people?
Well, for one, it enables dynamic pricing. The more data that a company collects on people, the more accurate they can get in terms of determining how much money they can charge individual people for the same thing.
Let's say that people are shopping for Big Busty Babes in Brooklyn, Volume 7. Maybe a particular online purveyor of such items figures that a single male (thanks for the data, Facebook!) who visits strip clubs a lot (thanks, T-Mobile and Google Maps!) and makes $150,000 a year (thanks, credit reporting agencies!) would pay $30 for it. Do you think they'll put the same price on that high-quality entertainment if a married heterosexual female in a household that makes $50,000 a year is shopping for it?
Dynamic Pricing: Which Customers Are Worth The Most? Amazon, Delta Airlines And Staples Weigh In
In an age where standardized, "one price for everything"-style pricing reigns supreme, it seems unlikely that a business could offer one price to a certain group of customers while charging others something different. But as online retailers gain access to an increasingly seductive amount of...
That shit should be illegal, but even if it is, prosecutions never happen. Also, if you're the one who visits strip clubs a lot, run for political office and see what happens when that little bit is (very easily) dug up.
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@PleegWat said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
@Steve_The_Cynic Except as I understand SMS is easy to intercept, both via over-the-air monitoring of traffic, or social engineering attacks at the mobile operator.
Indeed, but in general, as @Gąska said, it just plain isn't worth the bother. (That said, I'd suggest that "completely immune" isn't correct. If someone decides to launch such an attack against my something or other account, it would probably succeed, but they just plain aren't going to bother, since the potential gain is near zero, well below the cost of gaining it.)
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@lolwhat said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
@Gąska said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
Should I understand it as that you disagree that people you never met being able to find out your home address, your employer, your marital status, and your kids' school with little effort is completely harmless for most people?
Well, for one, it enables dynamic pricing. The more data that a company collects on people, the more accurate they can get in terms of determining how much money they can charge individual people for the same thing.
It has little to do with information collection and more to do with individual pricing being legal at all. Let's fix the main problem first, and then figure out how to tackle the impossible task of preventing information from spreading.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
That said, I'd suggest that "completely immune" isn't correct.
I was intentionally provocative. It's not literally completely immune, but a private citizen (ie. not business owner, not journalist, not politician, not celebrity) has a far higher chance of dying in gym accident than getting hacked through non-fully-automated methods.
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if you're the one who visits strip clubs a lot, run for political office and see what happens when that little bit is (very easily) dug up
As that indicates, dynamic pricing is only one possible way to use this information against you.
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for most people
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@kazitor said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
I don't really intend to ever get a "proper" modern phone, so I can only foresee this becoming more and more of an issue.
I held off until work required it. Because that's how we log into anything at work. I could have gotten a work phone, but then I'd have to carry 2 phones. Riiiighht.
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@dcon said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
I could have gotten a work phone, but then I'd have to carry 2 phones. Riiiighht.
If the you had an old time mobile phone, that's not a big problem.
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@lolwhat said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
Is "I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a statement" an OK statement to use outside the Garage?
That depends. Are you talking about supposed computations where if you put the wrong values in, you get the right values out anyway?
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@Gąska said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
for most people
And if you want to get into political office because you wish to effect change at that level, you have to be worried about something that you may have done long ago that isn't necessarily indicative of who you are now, but will nevertheless be used to destroy your candidacy - or, if you do win office, will be used to gain, shall we say, an understanding with you. So, while it may affect a "minority" of people directly, the effects would ripple well outside of those people.
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@_P_ said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this:
...Yes, there's a verification tier that requires you to have a verified phone before you can participate. Not that the public discords I know would go up to that (usually they use third-party bots to utilize verification level because DISCORD BOTS ARE JUST IRC BOTS 2.0), but I wouldn't know...
Yes, the r/catholicism subreddit DIscord does that. I refused to join it for that reason.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
No, I do not normally attempt to subvert ban-avoidance detection systems. Best make a "real" email account.
Most "real" email providers require you to activate via text. And we're back to square "fucked".
Try the fake email address to see if it works first.
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@_P_ said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this:
The Discord developers deserve to have their nipples slowly peeled with a sewing needle for those stupid fucking ASCII things.
This is a goddamn admin screen.
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@Lorne-Kates said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
those stupid fucking ASCII things.
And speaking of which, you forgot to write the title of this thread in Discord-speak. Here, I'll fix it for you:
@Lorne-Kates said in Oopsie whoopsie u never call me on your cell phone lol, just want to give you a friendly ring-a-ding-ding to make sure you are you and not a Super Ninja in disguise:
those stupid fucking ASCII things.
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You can't unblock the Wumpus.
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@Lorne-Kates said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
those stupid fucking ASCII things.
This is a goddamn admin screen.Disagree, that double-table-flip thingie is pretty sweet.
And it's Discord. I'm going to assume it's mostly used by a bunch of teenagers for gaming, so who cares, or at least if you're using it professionally you're
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@topspin said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
or at least if you're using it professionally you're
Professionals use Slack, which is basically just a slightly less cringy (but still very much cringy) skin for Discord.
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@Gąska said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
@topspin said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
or at least if you're using it professionally you're
Professionals use Slack, which is basically just a slightly less cringy (but still very much cringy) skin for Discord.
I heard they're changing their program's icon.
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@Tsaukpaetra You wouldn't dare operate any sort of discussion platform without a stylised speech bubble or four in the logo now, would you?
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@Lorne-Kates said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
@_P_ said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this:The Discord developers deserve to have their nipples slowly peeled with a sewing needle for those stupid fucking ASCII things.
This is a goddamn admin screen.
You have some really interesting BDSM fetishes.
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@pie_flavor Now you’re just asking for his go-to response.
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@topspin When your mom needs stress relief, I'm her go-to response.
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@pie_flavor you're her trans hooker?
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@Gąska the perfect middle ground for a closeted lesbian.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
@Gąska said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
@topspin said in GODDAMMIT FUCK YOU DISCORD:
or at least if you're using it professionally you're
Professionals use Slack, which is basically just a slightly less cringy (but still very much cringy) skin for Discord.
I heard they're changing their program's icon.
OMG it's live already.
