You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....

PJH

$ ssh mycomputer.dontexist.com Welcome to Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.15.0-29-generic x86_64) Documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com Management: https://landscape.canonical.com Support: https://ubuntu.com/advantage Introducing Minimal Ubuntu for docker and clouds. 30 MB base image and optimised kernels on public clouds. Made for machines and containers. https://bit.ly/minimal-ubuntu Canonical Livepatch is available for installation. Reduce system reboots and improve kernel security. Activate at: https://ubuntu.com/livepatch 30 packages can be updated. 30 updates are security updates. You have packages from the Hardware Enablement Stack (HWE) installed that are going out of support on 2023-04-30. There is a graphics stack installed on this system. An upgrade to a configuration supported for the full lifetime of the LTS will become available on 2020-07-21 and can be installed by running 'update-manager' in the Dash. *** System restart required *** Last login: Wed Aug 15 16:40:21 2018 from 127.0.0.1 Keychain: Found no SSH_AUTH_SOCK, so running keychain to start ssh-agent & load keys.

sockpuppet7

@PJH is it the normal Ubuntu 18.04 LTS for desktops?

PJH

@sockpuppet7 yup - that's my desktop at work, logging into it from home.

And that's the default MOTD - I've not changed it, since I normally don't notice it anyway.

Steve_The_Cynic

It occurs to me that the five-year thing is semi-reasonable, unless LTS is supposed to have a longer lifespan than that.

The two-year thing does sound a bit , or maybe it's just atrociously phrased. (But if so, it's so atrociously phrased that it counts as a anyway.)

TimeBandit

@PJH said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

And that's the default MOTD

Ubuntu's default MOTD include ads now

loopback0

@TimeBandit An update to enable restarting when Ubuntu feels like it will become available on 2019-07-12.

Weng

I read that as an awkward "Hey these are going out of support before your OS. Before that happens you can update to a replacement package that isn't available yet"

blakeyrat

@PJH said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

There is a graphics stack installed on this system.

Whaaaaaa!

Gąska

@Weng said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

I read that as an awkward "Hey these are going out of support before your OS. Before that happens you can update to a replacement package that isn't available yet"

The best part is that Ubuntu 18.04 goes out of support in April 2023 too.

ben_lubar

@PJH said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

@sockpuppet7 yup - that's my desktop at work, logging into it from home.

And that's the default MOTD - I've not changed it, since I normally don't notice it anyway.

Really? Because for me, the MOTD looks like this:

Connecting to ben@urist.lubar.me...
Loading NaCl plugin... done.
Welcome to Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS (GNU/Linux 4.15.0-32-generic x86_64)

 * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com
 * Management:     https://landscape.canonical.com
 * Support:        https://ubuntu.com/advantage

  System information as of Wed Aug 15 16:58:33 CDT 2018

  System load:  6.49                Users logged in:                2
  Usage of /:   15.9% of 228.23GB   IP address for enp6s0:          192.168.1.7
  Memory usage: 40%                 IP address for docker0:         172.17.0.1
  Swap usage:   0%                  IP address for br-f8354cf6848f: 172.21.1.1
  Processes:    336

 * Read about Ubuntu updates for L1 Terminal Fault Vulnerabilities
   (L1TF).

   - https://ubu.one/L1TF

 * Check out 6 great IDEs now available on Ubuntu. There may even be
   something worthwhile there for those crazy EMACS fans ;)

   - https://bit.ly/6-cool-IDEs

0 packages can be updated.
0 updates are security updates.


Last login: Wed Aug 15 15:32:59 2018 from 2600:1700:f340:9d60:1d9f:b5d5:6853:15ce

And yes, that is a headless AMD server (installed TODAY, no less) telling me about an Intel vulnerability and some GUI programs.

ben_lubar

@PJH said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

30 packages can be updated.
30 updates are security updates.

By the way, you might want to deal with that, especially since you probably run JavaScript in your web browser and there have been POCs of exploiting other Intel CPU bugs from a webpage.

Tsaukpaetra

@ben_lubar said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

Really? Because for me, the MOTD looks like this:

Ooh! Ooh! Lemme try! Mine looks like this:

login as: anthony
anthony@tcos's password:

The programs included with the Point Linux system are free software;
the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the
individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright.

Point Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent
permitted by applicable law.
anthony@tcos:~$

Alternatively:

Using username "root".
Authenticating with public key "root"
Last login: Fri Jul 27 21:34:56 2018 from 192.168.1.1
FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p9 (FREENAS.amd64) #24 r275791+77668b3: Thu Feb 12 20:01:24 PST 2015

        FreeNAS (c) 2009-2015, The FreeNAS Development Team
        All rights reserved.
        FreeNAS is released under the modified BSD license.

        For more information, documentation, help or support, go here:
        http://freenas.org
Welcome to FreeNAS!
Now get out! You're probably not supposed to be here!
[root@storagesrv] ~#

Zerosquare

@Tsaukpaetra said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

Now get out! You're probably not supposed to be here!

Who says Linux isn't user-friendly?

Atazhaia

@Zerosquare Well, that's from a BSD-based dist, and we all know those hate user-friendliness. At least based off the most popular (fruit-based) BSD dist.

Weng

@Zerosquare said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

@Tsaukpaetra said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

Now get out! You're probably not supposed to be here!

Who says Linux isn't user-friendly?

I mean, root is not a user you should be friendly to. Root's kind of a dick.

TimeBandit

@Zerosquare said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

Who says Linux isn't user-friendly?

Linux is user friendly... It's just selective about who its friends are.

blakeyrat

@ben_lubar said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

Check out 6 great IDEs now available on Ubuntu. There may even be
something worthwhile there for those crazy EMACS fans ;)

Did someone draw a paycheck for typing this? Christ.

Tsaukpaetra

@Zerosquare said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

@Tsaukpaetra said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

Now get out! You're probably not supposed to be here!

Who says Linux isn't user-friendly?

I added that line to the MotD.

topspin

@blakeyrat said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

@ben_lubar said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

Check out 6 great IDEs now available on Ubuntu. There may even be
something worthwhile there for those crazy EMACS fans ;)

Did someone draw a paycheck for typing this? Christ.

Right, but maybe still better than DMFK.

Jaloopa

@PJH said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

that's the default MOTD

What's a non-default match of the day?

PJH

@Jaloopa said in You have packages going out of support in 5 years. Updates for others will be available in 2 years....:

What's a non-default match of the day?

Sunderland v Newcastle, these days...