War on right clickers, tides have turned!



  • That's right you read the title right, check out this amazing product.

    http://www.rightclickrevenue.com/ 

     Here's a quote I copied from the site:


    What was even more surprising to me was the fact that I couldn't protect my copy! 
    People pay literally thousands of dollars to have a professional create a profitable sales page - 
    yet anyone can highlight and copy text.

     

    I've literally spent years searching for a better way to protect
    my website images and copy. What I found, were products that only did
    half of the job I wanted them to or, were a pain to install.

     He spent years doing research in to this? Now that's what I call worse than failure.
     

     



  • Gah!! Are there any brains left on this planet??

    (Yes: they are all here)

    News flash for ya: If your image is on a public web server, then your picture is public property. End of story. 



  • MU,HAHAHA

     Im going to copy that page, the whole thing, and put it up on a free hosting account somewhere and them email him the URL... Im going to change that popup as well so that when you right click it explains to him that once a client has viewed a page all of the content is on their PC, and theres nothing he can do... its how the internet works...



  • Worst thing is that someone actually bought it :/

    Anybody up for http://www.rightclickrevenue.com/right-click-revenue-pro.js decoding contest? ;) It's pretty much obfuscated - for example:

    O00O='fu';OO0O='TNnGOqMGtOhhflOT';O00O+='nction '+'(_'+'O0)



  • disables javascript Blatantly "steals" (read: copy) his text

    Ehh, am I missing something here? Hell, even if he manages to block rightclick it still ends up in a temp folder somewhere.



  • @robbak said:

    News flash for ya: If your image is on a public web server, then your picture is public property. End of story. 

    No, it's still protected by whatever copyright applies to it and it's still infringement to copy it without permission. There is currently no technical way to prevent people from simply saving it and using it as they see fit, but that neither makes it legal nor makes the picture public property.

    Just because you are able to do something doesn't mean you're allowed to do it; that's what laws are all about.

     



  • But.. but... nothing happens differently on his site for me than anywhere else. I right click and get the standard options for Copy, Select all, copy image location etc.

    Oh, I wonder what would happen if I were to turn "NoScript" off?

    Am I going to try?

    What, let untrusted and obfuscated JavaScript run on my machine? No chance!!



  • Don't get me wrong this is funny, but at the same time I find it sort of sad someone is making money by selling worthless products to gulible people. Would be funny to vote the site onto slashdot or somethying, maybe the resulting DOS attack would wipe the site out. If only.



  • @viraptor said:

    Worst thing is that someone actually bought it :/

    Anybody up for http://www.rightclickrevenue.com/right-click-revenue-pro.js decoding contest? ;) It's pretty much obfuscated - for example:

    O00O='fu';OO0O='TNnGOqMGtOhhflOT';O00O+='nction '+'(_'+'O0)

    Looks like pure ASCII obfuscation, nothing smart going on at all - mostly just URL escaping, eval, and inane variable names.



  • @DaBookshah said:

    Don't get me wrong this is funny, but at the same time I find it sort of sad someone is making money by selling worthless products to gulible people. Would be funny to vote the site onto slashdot or somethying, maybe the resulting DOS attack would wipe the site out. If only.


    Perhaps, but by the way google works, it would increase his pagerank and make it all the more easy to find his site, so that even more gulible people can find him. 



  • Did you take look at the Websites using RCR?? They look quite cheap, two of them use even the same footer and so on...
     



  • The red! The red! AAAUGHH!!!



  • Right Click Revenue, meet Firebug.  Firebug, tell Right Click Revenue to go to hell.



  • Lol....

    Interesting...

    No way ctrl-a is going to work.

    ...

    What's his email? I found a bug.



  • Just a note: his code does nothing whatsoever on Mac browsers. In Safari, it fails to prevent the contextual menu from coming up, even when Javascript is turned on, and it seems to draw the content he's trying to display in the contextual menu as part of the page, although without loading it in Windows I can't be sure of that. In Mac Firefox, on the other hand, the extra content doesn't appear but it still does nothing.


    I'm not sure whether I should be upset that he didn't test on the Mac or not.



  • I like that with so many existing Javascript Modal Boxes that have novel ideas like: being able to move the Modal Box and having the cursor change to a hand to imply clickability over the close link this man's attempt at technology that already exists is worse than failure.

     

    He should take a 101 course on how the intertubes work and then try again at life. 



  • @bstorer said:

    Right Click Revenue, meet Firebug.  Firebug, tell Right Click Revenue to go to hell.

    Someone with Firebug should download all his images, zip them up and email them to him to show him how well his "solution" works. Is this guy really that ignorant? All a person has to do is disable JavaScript and voila there it is. THis is really quite humorous, not mention sad that people are actually paying for this crap.



  • @PsychoCoder said:

    @bstorer said:
    Right Click Revenue, meet Firebug.  Firebug, tell Right Click Revenue to go to hell.

    Someone with Firebug should download all his images, zip them up and email them to him to show him how well his "solution" works.

    LOL. No need for Firebug. After the first right-click, subsequent right-clicks work as one wants.
    I copied the whole text and also the image of his signature down the bottom of the page. Then mailed it to him at his archerworks.com domain (cheers, godaddy!).

     @PsychoCoder said:

    Is this guy really that ignorant?

    Probably was, but thanks to the sterling work of us WTFers he'll be a little bit more clued in now.

    Oh boy, this one has made my day. Thanks folks! 



  • @PsychoCoder said:

    @bstorer said:
    Right Click Revenue, meet Firebug.  Firebug, tell Right Click Revenue to go to hell.

    Someone with Firebug should download all his images, zip them up and email them to him to show him how well his "solution" works. Is this guy really that ignorant? All a person has to do is disable JavaScript and voila there it is. THis is really quite humorous, not mention sad that people are actually paying for this crap.

    I just used view source -- no disabling javascript or add-ons even necessary. Then you can open the image directly:

    http://www.rightclickrevenue.com/images/face.jpg

    My guess is that the author knows all of this, but is hoping to sell his product to joe non-tech-guy schmoe with a small business website who doesn't know any better.  Just your typical slimy snake-oil salesman.  A better idea would be to send his customers a copy of all of their pictures to help show them how well this product really works.



  • @shadowman said:

    My guess is that the author knows all of this, but is hoping to sell his product to joe non-tech-guy schmoe with a small business website who doesn't know any better.  Just your typical slimy snake-oil salesman.  A better idea would be to send his customers a copy of all of their pictures to help show them how well this product really works.

    I think there's a high probability of this. All the sites he lists as using his product are his own sites. Probably pulled all those testimonials out of his own arse.

     



  • Some of the sites listed don't seem to offer any service or product.  One of them seemed to be a page with only advertisements.  After playing around on it I felt guilty for making those poor advertisers give money to some shit eater that makes websites with only advertisements.



  • I thing I really hate about this is that it also gets activated if I try to auto-scroll using the middle mouse button.



  • You can also do "File->Save" in firefox. This will download the entire page + all images to a new folder. Then it's just pick and choose what to use the images for!



  • @viraptor said:

    Worst thing is that someone actually bought it :/

    Anybody up for http://www.rightclickrevenue.com/right-click-revenue-pro.js decoding contest? ;) It's pretty much obfuscated - for example:

    O00O='fu';OO0O='TNnGOqMGtOhhflOT';O00O+='nction '+'(_'+'O0)

    Here you go:


    <font size="-1">

    nsp='Old browser!';
    dl=document.layers;
    oe=window.opera?1:0;
    da=document.all&&!oe;
    ge=document.getElementById;
    ws=window.sidebar?true:false;
    tN=navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase();
    izN=tN.indexOf('netscape')>=0?true:false;
    zis=tN.indexOf('msie 7')>=0?true:false;
    if(ws&&!izN){quogl='iuy'};
    var msg='';
    function nem(){
        return true
    };
    window.onerror = nem;
    zOF=window.location.protocol.indexOf("file")!=-1?true:false;
    i7f=zis&&!zOF?true:false;
    function ns9(){
        window.status=' ';
        setTimeout('ns9()',1000);
        return true
    };
    if(!oe){
        ns9();
        document.onmouseover=ns9;
        document.onmouseout=ns9
    };
    function u0(a){
        return false
    };
    function u1(e){
        return(e.target.tagName!=null&&e.target.tagName.search('^(INPUT|TEXTAREA|BUTTON|SELECT)$')!=-1)
    };
    function u2(e){
        if(e.which==1){
            window.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEMOVE);
            window.onmousemove=u0
        }
    };
    function u3(e){
        if(e.which==1){
            window.releaseEvents(Event.MOUSEMOVE);
            window.onmousemove=null
        }
    };
    if(dl){
        window.captureEvents(Event.MOUSEUP|Event.MOUSEDOWN);
        window.onmousedown=u2;
        window.onmouseup=u3
    }else if(ge&&!da){
        document.onmousedown=u1
    };
    function nn(){
        if(dl||ws){
            var t= document.getSelection();
            if(t.indexOf('qweasdzxc')>1){document.location.href='about:blank'};
            setTimeout("nn()",200)
        }
    };
    nn();
    function ni(){
        if(da){
            document.onselectstart=function (){
                return false
            };
            setTimeout("ni()",200)
        }
    };
    ni();
    if(window.location.protocol.indexOf("file")!=-1){
        document.location="about:blank"
    };
    document.write('<style media=print>body {display:none}</style>');
    </font>


  • The worse is the testimonials pointing to websites. Those site are made only to sell the right click secure product. One of them is interresting. It protects such images:


    [img]http://www.pmcgregor.com/images/lazarbar.gif [/img]

    An other one is simply not using the tool :D 

    Except a banner that appear behind the popupmenu et selection forbidding, it does not work much :) (and of course, disable javascript ....)

     

    The problem with right click is when you have a really good reason to have your custom menu on some item (like a javascript tree item where various actions are possible) and browser does not disable default context menu :D
     



  • And what about the EYE-POPIN' templates?


     



  • That's clearly "EYE POP IN'", which is (with the exception of the punctuation) perfectly valid English. Not that that makes it any better.





    Also:

    ArcherWorks Highly recommends FireFox!


  • The irony is that the people MOST likely to buy this product are the LEAST likely to have content worth stealing.



  • I don't get the point of this product. You could always hit ALT-PntsScrn, paste the image of the page to Word, print the word document, tape the document to a wooden table, flip the table over, put it on a scanner, scan the page and finally run it through OCR software to steal the text. No nerdy guru skills required.



  • Somebody should make a script that brings up a real-looking context menu when a user right-clicks. Then "view-source" could do something funny. That'd be awesome. :)   



  • EYE POP IN.  For the people who have a glass eye.



  • Looks like I can steal images WITHOUT disabling JavaScript! This is even worse than the JavaScript on-click alert script you see everywhere.

     And people actually pay for this kind of crap?

     
     

     
     
      



  • Using IE 7, I just clicked on View > Source.  No problems.  What a tool.



  • The most hilarious part of the site, to me, is still the Asian woman in the banner. What's she doing there? Is she smiling because she can't copy my content? Maybe she's smiling because she knows how to turn off Javascript. And also how, an inch below, there's a shitty low-quality picture of the author in contrast with ultra-quality Clip Art Woman who can't get my content. She wants it, but she can't have it. And in defeat, she just smiles at my ingenuity. I'm glad I bought Right Click Revenue - now Asian women will stare at me all the time.

    (Not 30 seconds after writing this, I couldn't figure out why I wasn't able to vote on the thread.)



  • Somebody should do a real working protection so that these idiots can not profit from this kind of crap.

    Well, working as good you can get it with javascript ;) 



  • I stopped reading when I got to 8 grammatical errors in the first few paragraphs. If you can't be bothered to get someone with proper English skills to write up the front page advertisement, then I don't give a crap about your "Brand New Product". Sounds like a moron with a Geocities or Angelfire homepage decided to drop $20 on a crappy web hosting service.

    Also I would rather not detonate my cash earnings, thank you very much. Douchebag.



  • Wow, this is so stupid it's not funny :P. I was thinking of making a parody site/product, but wasn't sure whether to have "leftclickrevenue.com" (click on a link, have a DHTML popup or similar with text like "GIVE US MONEY!!!!11!!!!!111~~"), or "rightclickmenu.com" (have a page about the normal right-click menu). Or maybe "noclickrevenue.com", and automatically spawn heaps of DHTML popups? :D

    Haha, they've got a page with all the templates, full-size: http://www.rightclickrevenue.com/protemplates.html

    @Manni said:

    I stopped reading when I got to 8 grammatical errors in the first few paragraphs. If you can't be bothered to get someone with proper English skills to write up the front page advertisement, then I don't give a crap about your "Brand New Product". Sounds like a moron with a Geocities or Angelfire homepage decided to drop $20 on a crappy web hosting service.

    Also I would rather not detonate my cash earnings, thank you very much. Douchebag.


    Aren't all dodgy ads like this? Every similar one I've seen has similar grammar mistakes
    http://www.rightclickrevenue.com/images/rightclick_report.jpg: "How to turn Right Click's into Revenue". Enough said :P



  • pasting the following into the addressbar makes a mockery of "years of research". Five minutes of "research" brings this "defence" to its knees.

    [code] javascript:void(eval("window.document.onmouseup=null;window.document.onmousedown=null;window.document.onmouseover=null;window.document.onmouseout=null;window.document.oncontextmenu=null;")) [/code]

     

    @faal said:

    That's right you read the title right, check out this amazing product.

    http://www.rightclickrevenue.com/ 

     Here's a quote I copied from the site:


    What was even more surprising to me was the fact that I couldn't protect my copy! 
    People pay literally thousands of dollars to have a professional create a profitable sales page - 
    yet anyone can highlight and copy text.

     

    I've literally spent years searching for a better way to protect my website images and copy. What I found, were products that only did half of the job I wanted them to or, were a pain to install.

     He spent years doing research in to this? Now that's what I call worse than failure.
     

     



  • @shill said:

    I thing I really hate about this is that it also gets activated if I try to auto-scroll using the middle mouse button.

    IIRC, the real WTF is that, due to lack of standardisation, it's impossible to reliably tell the difference between right-button clicks and middle-button clicks without using some form of browser detection. (Specifically, one browser's right click looks the same as a middle button click in the other.)



  • yet anyone can highlight and copy text. write down on paper words they read on a screen

    Even works with JavaScript enabled :)
     



  • @makomk said:

    @shill said:
    I thing I really hate about this is that it also gets activated if I try to auto-scroll using the middle mouse button.
    IIRC, the real WTF is that, due to lack of standardisation, it's impossible to reliably tell the difference between right-button clicks and middle-button clicks without using some form of browser detection. (Specifically, one browser's right click looks the same as a middle button click in the other.)


    Not really, the web page has no business worrying about either. I've never seen a legitimate use of capturing right clicks.



  • @SuperousOxide said:

    @makomk said:
    @shill said:
    I thing I really hate about this is that it also gets activated if I try to auto-scroll using the middle mouse button.
    IIRC, the real WTF is that, due to lack of standardisation, it's impossible to reliably tell the difference between right-button clicks and middle-button clicks without using some form of browser detection. (Specifically, one browser's right click looks the same as a middle button click in the other.)


    Not really, the web page has no business worrying about either. I've never seen a legitimate use of capturing right clicks.


    How about the same use it always has, context-sensitive menus?



  • @Cap'n Steve said:

    How about the same use it always has, context-sensitive menus?
    My browser already implements one - how would the two of them supposed to mix?



  • CTRL+U works too.



  • The sad thing is, I fear this thing will work because it fulfills one purpose perfectly: Impressing the boss/marketing head/website owner/etc that has no clue of anything but knows the product must be good because it costs money and therefore immediately buys it... I don't think that guy there seriously believes what he wrote. He's just doing what everyone does today: speculating on the dumbness of people...

    As for the context menu, I agree. Ajax applications and everything are nice, but there are bondaries outside of which a website really has no buisyness to do, regardless how flashy and complicated it is. The context menu lies outside of those bounds.
     



  • @SuperousOxide said:

    @makomk said:
    @shill said:
    I thing I really hate about this is that it also gets activated if I try to auto-scroll using the middle mouse button.
    IIRC, the real WTF is that, due to lack of standardisation, it's impossible to reliably tell the difference between right-button clicks and middle-button clicks without using some form of browser detection. (Specifically, one browser's right click looks the same as a middle button click in the other.)


    Not really, the web page has no business worrying about either. I've never seen a legitimate use of capturing right clicks.

    Looked at Google Docs & Spreadsheets lately? 



  • @Devi said:

    yet anyone can highlight and copy text. write down on paper words they read on a screen

    Even works with JavaScript enabled :)
     

    Not with my new product: Right Hand Revenue.  It pops up another sheet of paper any time you try to write with your right hand.  Of course, it doesn't bother me, because I'm left-handed.  Suckers!



  • @ender said:

    @Cap'n Steve said:
    How about the same use it always has, context-sensitive menus?
    My browser already implements one - how would the two of them supposed to mix?


    I don't know, how about some API to just add entries to it?  I know it annoys me when I right-click in Flash games and only get that worthless Flash menu.



  • @Cap'n Steve said:

    @ender said:
    @Cap'n Steve said:
    How about the same use it always has, context-sensitive menus?
    My browser already implements one - how would the two of them supposed to mix?


    I don't know, how about some API to just add entries to it? I know it annoys me when I right-click in Flash games and only get that worthless Flash menu.

    Agreed, that would be a good idea.

    Then again, web technologies usually doesn't seem to be valued after being good ideas or not... 



  • I came across this forum after looking for solutions for my website and www.rightclickrevenue.com seems to offer a very feasable solution to increase website security while providing a way to increase sales.

    I'm not saying you are wrong but I think the creator knows everything your saying from looking at you posts... he states: "From the beginning I understood that it is virtually impossible to protect 100% of your content from 100% of the people; after all once something is live on the internet it can feel like it is out of your hands. With that knowledge I almost gave up... "

     Just wondering why this has been so "over analyzed" by this forum.

     
    Mark
     


     


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