Windows 10 Fail Craters Update



  • Highlights:

    The reimagined Photos app now gives you the ability to add filters, text, 3D effects – and soon full 3D objects – and even digital ink to your photos and video clips for great storytelling complete with soundtracks, themes, and transitions.

    Voice-activated Power Commands. In addition to exciting voice-activated features like reaching Cortana above the lock screen, you can now ask Cortana to shut down, restart, or sleep your PC.

    Edit URL for Favorites. You can now edit the URL of any favorite in the Favorites menu or the Favorites Bar. Simply go to Hub, then Favorites; right-click on a favorite and select “Edit a URL.”

    Find My Pen. Windows can now tell you where you were when you last inked on your computer, which makes finding a lost digital pen a lot easier.

    Better PDF viewing. When PDF docs show up sideways, you can now rotate them and even adjust file layout for easier reading.

    Choose your performance/battery balance. New Performance/Power slider* lets you set the right balance between battery-life longevity and system performance and responsiveness. Optimize for battery life on a long flight; go with performance when you’re gaming or photo editing at home.

    I wrote this post on my phone while waiting for my computer to update. About five quotes in, it has frozen and I had to reset. Now I'm waiting for it to unupdate.


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    @gąska said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    you can now ask Cortana to shut down, restart, or sleep your PC.

    You know, I've been able to do that with my Hololens since day one with Cortana. Why is that listed as a feature?



  • @gąska said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Find My Pen.

    Other new W̧̱̙̓ͩ͋̀̚̕ī̪̞̲͆͂̎̆n̤͎̟̓͜d̢̳̻̠̅̂͡ȯ̙̊̕͞w̨̦͍͈̦̤̰͕̄̃ͩͫͧͧͩs̢̖͎̜̝̃̄̍́̈̀ͅ ̫̺̦̻̱̻̙ͬ̌͒̏ͦ 10®™à̴̵̶̷̸̡̢̧̨̛̖̗̘̙̜̝̞̟̠̣̤̥̦̩̪̫̬̭̮̯̯̰̱̲̳̹̺̻̼͇͈͉͍͎́̂̃̄̅̆̇̈̉̊̋̌̍̎̏̐̑̒̓̔̽̾̿̀́͂̓̈́͆͊͋͌̕̚͠͡ͅ© features include:

    • Find My Dog.
    • Find My Microsoft Authorized Retailer.
    • Find My Start Menu.
    • Find My Browser Toolbar.
    • Find My Disabled Cortana Feature. (and automatically re-enable it)
    • Find My Site.
    • Finder


  • The photos app is pretty great actually, especially if they get that 3d module working. It's basically a free movie maker that they're still supporting, and while it can't do a LOT, I think it does a good job of letting people who otherwise couldn't make moderately acceptable videos.



  • @magus cool. Now, if only there was an app that I can use to view, not edit pictures.

    By view, I mean browse pictures one after another in quick succession, with each one opening in no more than half second.



  • @gąska said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Edit URL for Favorites. You can now edit the URL of any favorite in the Favorites menu or the Favorites Bar.

    undefined I'm pretty sure I've been able to do that since Netscape 1.0 in, like, 1994. That was a long time ago, so my memory is pretty fuzzy about exactly what features were available when, but I know this feature isn't even close to new.

    @gąska said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Choose your performance/battery balance.

    That's not even close to new, either. Maybe they improved it, but that blurb doesn't say improved; it reads like it's something new.



  • @gąska It does that just fine?



  • @magus not for me. Both my desktop and laptop choke for about five seconds before showing the first picture, and there's one second of black screen when switching to next one. And that desktop can play Far Cry 4 just fine.



  • @gąska And this is after the update? Because its a completely different app than before.



  • Haven't had any of these issues, updated my computer last week...

    Have to say, though, that I find the new sharing mechanism (the one that looks a lot like iOS sharing 😆 ) and Continue on PC impressed me most in my day to day. Now I just wish my company would update the firm's OS image to this version 😄



  • The only new thing I noticed was that it completely fucked with my graphics drivers, such that one screen was significantly darker than normal and hard to read. I also could not reinstall the drivers correctly; the installer failed in various different ways, although after the fifth or so attempt (and second hard reset) the screen went back to normal.



  • @salamander I had to pick up new graphics drivers and dick about a bit afterwards too, you're not the only one.

    It's also including GPU in task manager, which at least is a nice addition



  • @hardwaregeek said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    @gąska said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Edit URL for Favorites. You can now edit the URL of any favorite in the Favorites menu or the Favorites Bar.

    undefined I'm pretty sure I've been able to do that since Netscape 1.0 in, like, 1994. That was a long time ago, so my memory is pretty fuzzy about exactly what features were available when, but I know this feature isn't even close to new.

    @gąska said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Choose your performance/battery balance.

    That's not even close to new, either. Maybe they improved it, but that blurb doesn't say improved; it reads like it's something new.

    I used Navigator 1.01 somewhere in the back-end of 1995(1). It had the entertaining bug that if you hit Esc to abort a page download, it would append "Transfer Interrupted" to the current state of the downloaded page (reasonable enough), and then put that in the page cache (not even in the same galaxy as reasonable). It meant that you had to clear the cache or do a Ctrl+F5 refresh if you wanted to not see "Transfer interrupted" on that page...

    (1) On Linux (Slackware 3.1, with a 1.2-series kernel), for $JOB.



  • I hope they've finally fixed search. I tried to use it to search for a filename I knew was on my drive somewhere. 3 hours later I still had a little green bar jiggling along. I downloaded a search replacement and it took a few minutes to find it. At least search in XP actually worked.



  • @gąska said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    @magus not for me. Both my desktop and laptop choke for about five seconds before showing the first picture, and there's one second of black screen when switching to next one.

    Hmm...I don't have that problem using the Photos app as a replacement for the Windows Photo Viewer from Windows 7. Images from a hard drive and not in the cache show as quickly as I can click Next. It has some major flaws (it resizes images smaller than the window to the window size, it doesn't resize images larger than the window size to fit, and you can't loop from the last picture in a folder to the first) but it works OK in a pinch.

    I don't use the Photos app otherwise (there's much better viewers out there, including the Windows 7 Photo Viewer), and the folders it knows about only have two pictures in them that I use for testing in my Insider VM.


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    @gąska said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    @magus cool. Now, if only there was an app that I can use to view, not edit pictures.

    By view, I mean browse pictures one after another in quick succession, with each one opening in no more than half second.

    @parody said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    I don't have that problem using the Photos app as a replacement for the Windows Photo Viewer from Windows 7. It has some major flaws (it resizes images smaller than the window to the window size, it doesn't resize images larger than the window size to fit, and you can't loop from the last picture in a folder to the first) but it works OK in a pinch.

    Which is exactly why I still have this on all my computers:

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    It does exactly what you described, without any of the flaws mentioned, works well, is fast and runs on any version of Windows, including Windows 10. Of course there's no way to get it any more, due to being 17 years old, so I keep a few backup copies. There are newer versions available, but, like most software, it has evolved into a bloated mess.

    I think it's a pretty sad commentary on the state of current software that a 17 year old program is still better than anything available today.



  • @hardwaregeek said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    That's not even close to new, either. Maybe they improved it, but that blurb doesn't say improved; it reads like it's something new.

    Looks like MS is inventing the Apple style of invention and innovation.

    @gąska said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Find My Pen. Windows can now tell you where you were when you last inked on your computer, which makes finding a lost digital pen a lot easier.

    This just raises more questions for me than it answers.



  • @boomzilla said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    @gąska said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Find My Pen. Windows can now tell you where you were when you last inked on your computer, which makes finding a lost digital pen a lot easier.

    This just raises more questions for me than it answers.

    Like, 'Is that a problem that anyone actually has?". I actually have a digital pen at home (Wacom tablet with stylus, but Windows 10 OCE(0) thinks it's a digital pen(1)), and I don't think I'll ever have a problem related to losing it, since the computer itself is a desktop, so ...

    (0) Original Creators' Edition, duh

    (1) In this respect, Windows is probably right, although I suppose that depends on the definition of "digital pen".



  • @cursorkeys said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    I hope they've finally fixed search. I tried to use it to search for a filename I knew was on my drive somewhere. 3 hours later I still had a little green bar jiggling along. I downloaded a search replacement and it took a few minutes to find it. At least search in XP actually worked.

    Explorer has the unpleasant habit of searching in files for the text you put in the search box. I think you'll find that opening a command prompt and issuing the command dir /s /b filename will be significantly faster than Explorer because that only looks at the names, and not at the contents.

    Mitigating that slowness is what the indexing service is for, except that the indexer itself (that compiles the index data) makes everything you do with the computer monstrously slow if you want to be able to search your whole drive. It's not as bad as the Windows Module Installer service nor the Microsoft Telemetry thing, but it's pretty bad.



  • @steve_the_cynic said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Explorer has the unpleasant habit of searching in files for the text you put in the search box

    So use the name: prefix !
    There are quite a number of prefixes that allow to to control where search looks.


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    @steve_the_cynic said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Explorer has the unpleasant habit of searching in files for the text you put in the search box. I think you'll find that opening a command prompt and issuing the command dir /s /b filename will be significantly faster than Explorer because that only looks at the names, and not at the contents.

    0_1510839118084_Untitled-1.png



  • @el_heffe said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    @steve_the_cynic said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Explorer has the unpleasant habit of searching in files for the text you put in the search box. I think you'll find that opening a command prompt and issuing the command dir /s /b filename will be significantly faster than Explorer because that only looks at the names, and not at the contents.

    0_1510839118084_Untitled-1.png

    Yup, there you are. Notice that it doesn't say "allow searches to look at file contents". All that controls is whether the indexer will look at the file contents.

    But it does mean that if you check that, the indexer won't take nearly as much time to do its work.



  • @thecpuwizard said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    @steve_the_cynic said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Explorer has the unpleasant habit of searching in files for the text you put in the search box

    So use the name: prefix !
    There are quite a number of prefixes that allow to to control where search looks.

    Ah, that would help a lot. Thanks. Didn't know that.



  • @cursorkeys said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    I hope they've finally fixed search.

    C:\cygwin64\bin\find.exe

    Filed under: Just sayin'



  • @hardwaregeek I've always been partial to http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/ on Windows.



  • @boomzilla Never used it myself, but installing Cygwin is one of the first things I do on any Windows computer fully in my control. Also, it looks like Gnuwin hasn't been updated for a while. I think I'll stay with Cygwin.



  • @hardwaregeek Yeah, the advantage of GnuWin32 was that you didn't have to run in a cygwin environment. But I haven't used them in...uh...a long time, I guess.



  • @boomzilla You mean compiling code using Cygwin's version of GCC? Yeah, you need to have cygwin.dll (or cygwin1.dll, or whatever it's called (INB4: real_cygwin.dll)) installed to run it. But just for utilities like find and grep, meh; you have to install them from somewhere, and Cygwin is as good as any. (INB4: The installer is terrible. Maybe, but if all you need is the basic utilities, accepting the defaults and just clicking OK 4 or 5 times works just dandy.)



  • @gąska said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Better PDF viewing. When PDF docs show up sideways, you can now rotate them and even adjust file layout for easier reading.

    Okular:
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    Windows 10 catching up to KDE ? 🍹



  • @thecpuwizard said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    So use the name: prefix !
    There are quite a number of prefixes that allow to to control where search looks.

    This is so intuitive.
    So nice that Windows got a GUI for everything !

    On KDE, you're stuck with this
    0_1510845810696_86ea2e04-3c18-43bc-98d9-86438ddc309b-image.png

    0_1510846026955_80c399ec-ae66-444e-9b1c-8013b7f44c83-image.png

    0_1510846039800_d28d7912-1534-4442-aede-7b3b30a97361-image.png

    🛒



  • @hardwaregeek These days, you'd just turn on developer mode and install some linux distro from the store, and have all that without cygwin.


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    @el_heffe said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    I keep a few backup copies

    Including some publicly available on the cloud?



  • By the way we have another thread for this same topic that some of you may find entertaining: https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/22914/teh-offishal-wondows-10-full-craters-pupdate-thred


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    @lb_ said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    By the way we have another thread for this same topic that some of you may find entertaining: https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/22914/teh-offishal-wondows-10-full-craters-pupdate-thred

    I was going to mention it but mobile.



  • @gąskablog.windows.com said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    you can now ask Cortana to shut down, restart, or sleep your PC.

    This gives me an idea for a new ringtone.


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    So, back in spring, CU1 broke the hell out of my power options to turn off the monitors after 1 minute idle. I don’t remember what I eventually did to fix it.

    Now, this fall, CU2 has broken the hell out of my power options to turn off the monitors after 1 minute idle. I’ve tried changing the length, changing power profiles, and resetting the power profiles. No dice. Ugggggggh.


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    @izzion said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    So, back in spring, CU1 broke the hell out of my power options to turn off the monitors after 1 minute idle. I don’t remember what I eventually did to fix it.

    Now, this fall, CU2 has broken the hell out of my power options to turn off the monitors after 1 minute idle. I’ve tried changing the length, changing power profiles, and resetting the power profiles. No dice. Ugggggggh.

    I was wondering why my GP settings apparently didn't work anymore. It's locked to 10 minutes, yet every single machine remains up.

    Well, unless I manually undefined+L it....



  • I have a lot of things installed at D:\Program Files instead of C:
    The upgrade process redirected all my Start Menu shortcuts to C:\Program Files and created new ones with names like Microsoft Word (1) that point to the correct place.
    The upgrade process also rewrote some registry entries that pointed to paths inside D:\Program Files, so the SONAR DAW could not start for example because it couldn't find its "shared components" folder. I had to reinstall after removing all its registry entries.

    I figured out that the reason Google Desktop broke is the same: it couldn't launch the browser from a wronged path stored somewhere.

    One benefit is that now the JRE updater cannot launch the browser either. (It says it does that to verify the Java plugin is working, then opens the page in Firefox which says the plugin is not supported anymore.)


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    @marczellm said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    One benefit is that now the JRE updater cannot launch the browser either.

    People still install that? undefined


  • kills Dumbledore

    @dkf said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    @marczellm said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    One benefit is that now the JRE updater cannot launch the browser either.

    People still install that? undefined

    Ninite FTW



  • @dkf said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    @marczellm said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    One benefit is that now the JRE updater cannot launch the browser either.

    People still install that? undefined

    Hungarian tax reporting software is written in Swing.

    My bank's software too.

    Both institutions are in the process of replacing said apps with web apps, but not quite there yet. The tax thing might take several years I think.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @marczellm said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Hungarian tax reporting software is written in Swing.

    […]

    My bank's software too.

    I'm so so sorry for you.



  • @steve_the_cynic said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Like, 'Is that a problem that anyone actually has?". I actually have a digital pen at home (Wacom tablet with stylus, but Windows 10 OCE(0) thinks it's a digital pen(1)), and I don't think I'll ever have a problem related to losing it, since the computer itself is a desktop, so ...

    The Microsoft Surfaces ship with pens. I quite like to use it for taking notes. Losing the pen sets you back about $100.

    Now, I'm fairly protective of that pen, so it goes into the laptop sleeve immediately after use. It also doesn't really make sense to borrow it to anybody because it's not actually a real pen. But I guess if you're prone to leaving pens laying around, this might be a pretty neat feature?



  • @cvi said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    @steve_the_cynic said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    Like, 'Is that a problem that anyone actually has?". I actually have a digital pen at home (Wacom tablet with stylus, but Windows 10 OCE(0) thinks it's a digital pen(1)), and I don't think I'll ever have a problem related to losing it, since the computer itself is a desktop, so ...

    The Microsoft Surfaces ship with pens. I quite like to use it for taking notes. Losing the pen sets you back about $100.

    Now, I'm fairly protective of that pen, so it goes into the laptop sleeve immediately after use. It also doesn't really make sense to borrow it to anybody because it's not actually a real pen. But I guess if you're prone to leaving pens laying around, this might be a pretty neat feature?

    OK, that makes more sense. Reminds me of my first smartphone, a Samsung Omnia (i900) in 2008, Windows Mobile 6.1 and a stylusish resistive display. And a stylus. And no slot to hold a stylus.



  • @steve_the_cynic You can "attach" the surface pen to the laptops via magnets (IIRC the same magnet that holds in the charging cable). Which works well as long as nobody does more than look at the pen.

    It's also quite handy to temporarily hold other items (small screw drivers, tweezers, small magnetic components, ...) so that you can not-find them on your table.


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    @tsaukpaetra
    If you find the needful, please revert back 😿



  • @cvi said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    It also doesn't really make sense to borrow it to anybody because it's not actually a real pen.

    Also because it's semantically nonsense. Note to ESL and others who make this mistake:
    Borrow from
    Loan or lend to

    undefined



  • @cvi said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    @steve_the_cynic You can "attach" the surface pen to the laptops via magnets (IIRC the same magnet that holds in the charging cable). Which works well as long as nobody does more than look at the pen.

    It's also quite handy to temporarily hold other items (small screw drivers, tweezers, small magnetic components, ...) so that you can not-find them on your table.

    The Surface Pen's magnet is actually rather strong. I can easily pull my Surface Book all over the table with it. If you want I can devise a small experiment to see how much force in Newton I have to exert to break contact?



  • @hardwaregeek 👍

    @rhywden said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    If you want I can devise a small experiment to see how much force in Newton I have to exert to break contact?

    I'll have to check if we have any of those Newton-measurement thingies in the lab (I doubt it, unfortunately). I definitively can't pull the whole book with the pen though, at least not unless I cover up the rubber pads on the base. Just the screen .... maybe? (TBF - the problem is mostly shear and twisty forces, where this kind of magnetic attachment sucks, unless you go for finger-squishing strong magnets.)


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    @rhywden said in Windows 10 Fail Craters Update:

    If you want I can devise a small experiment to see how much force in Newton I have to exert to break contact?

    Are you taking bets? Mine is 581N!


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