The turd is dead. In a flash.
-
It's interesting that this hasn't been posted here before.
https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2017/07/adobe-flash-update.html
TLDR Adobe killed off flash. They'll only be updating it till 2020.
Rejoice, for the turn may not really be dead yet, but it surely is DYING!
-
-
@timebandit said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
@kt_
https://what.thedailywtf.com/topic/17088/in-other-news-today/4590This deserves its own thread. It's soooooo good a news!
-
@kt_ said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
It's soooooo good a news!
Not that good, they're still updating it until 2020.
Kill It Right Now !!!
-
@kt_ But as I replied in that other thread, you know there's going to be some critical websites still using it well into the 2030s...
-
@kt_ Nothing to cheer about here, Flash was great and the replacement technologies are all far more annoying to use.
-
-
@timebandit said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
@blakeyrat said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
Flash was great
No
But that's like saying that sex without a condom isn't great because people got STDs and unplanned pregnancies.
-
@timebandit Flash is great in ways that mattered. It was accessible, it was flexible, it was fun to use, it produced instant results using a WYSIWYG interface.
We have nothing like that now.
-
@boomzilla said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
But that's like saying that sex without a condom isn't great because people got STDs and unplanned pregnancies.
Flash is more like going to an orgy of an AIDS infected group without condom and having sex with everyone.
And making small cut on your
just to make sure.
-
@blakeyrat said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
We have nothing like that now.
I agree. Now you have to glue 132 JS library together and abuse the browser.
-
@timebandit said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
I agree. Now you have to glue 132 JS library together and abuse the browser.
Just yet another example of how this shitty industry is moving in the exact opposite direction it should be. Nobody's going to defend Adobe's record on security, but Flash was something amazing that we'll probably never see again.
-
@blakeyrat It didn't run in my OS of choice, so fuck flash. And fuck requiring a proprietary plugin to browse the web for that matter.
-
I wonder what's going to become of the decades of content on places like Newgrounds?
-
@kt_ would you have hated it if Saint Steve hadn't been against it I wonder?
-
@wharrgarbl said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
@blakeyrat It didn't run in my OS of choice, so fuck flash. And fuck requiring a proprietary plugin to browse the web for that matter.
Your OS of choice is... iOS?
-
@ben_lubar You'd really hope that people knowledgeable enough about the ways of computing to find their way here would not be iDiots, but sadly, that's probably not universally the case.
-
@groaner said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
I wonder what's going to become of the decades of content on places like Newgrounds?
iTWire - Call for Adobe to open source Flash spec
Developers are calling on Adobe to open source Flash following the company's announcement on 26 July that it would be retiring the software by the end of 2020. A developer who goes by the pseudony...
-
-
Gnome is moving away from bugzilla too! So maybe another turd is also deterred.
-
@dse Meh. I don't think I've ever seen an issue tracking system that wasn't awful in its own special way. IME Bugzilla isn't particularly bad, considering that context.
-
@masonwheeler said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
@dse Meh. I don't think I've ever seen an issue tracking system that wasn't awful in its own special way. IME Bugzilla isn't particularly bad, considering that context.
That is because you do not want an issue tracker, alone. Gilab/Github/Phabricator are fine.
-
@timebandit said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
@groaner said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
I wonder what's going to become of the decades of content on places like Newgrounds?
Developers are calling on Adobe to open source Flash following the company's announcement on 26 July that it would be retiring the software by the end of 2020. A developer who goes by the pseudony...
Inb4 emulator written in Javascript.
-
@groaner said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
Inb4 emulator written in Javascript.
The scary thing is, someone will probably do it
-
@groaner said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
I wonder what's going to become of the decades of content on places like Newgrounds?
They're going to convert all the movies to mpeg2 streams.
And all the interactive content? A link to Lets Play playlists on YouTube.
-
@dse said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
That is because you do not want an issue tracker, alone. Gilab/Github/Phabricator are fine.
-
@groaner said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
@timebandit said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
@groaner said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
I wonder what's going to become of the decades of content on places like Newgrounds?
Developers are calling on Adobe to open source Flash following the company's announcement on 26 July that it would be retiring the software by the end of 2020. A developer who goes by the pseudony...
Inb4 emulator written in Javascript.
inb4 swiffy gets picked up for development again
Google for Developers - from AI and Cloud to Mobile and Web
Explore developer resources, community events, and inspirational stories to help you build smarter and ship faster.
Edit: Or Shumway, apparently
-
Um hello!
Heh...I don't remember where I read it, but they talked about the requirements of working on that, which included never having used flash to avoid any possibility of license violations or whatever.
-
@blakeyrat said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
We have nothing like that now.
Found the "supposedly" replacement:
2D animation software, Flash animation | Adobe Animate
Create Flash animation films, GIFs, and cartoons with Adobe Animate. Buy the 2D animation software that has tools for puppet design and tweening.
-
@jaloopa said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
@kt_ would you have hated it if Saint Steve hadn't been against it I wonder?
Of course not. I'm incapable of independent thinking.
-
@timebandit said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
@blakeyrat said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
Flash was great
No
Security was one issue, performance was another. And growing lack of support for Flash on Linux (including Android) was a really bad thing, too.
The fact is, Adobe announcing they're killing off Flash in 2017 is actually an old news. They've been preparing to make this announcement the past few years, already.
-
A friend of mine is being skeptical. "Oh, they've said that for years." was his comment when I shared the news.
I do remember when I was being on a job interview for a company doing services for online casinos. I was told they're still using Flash Video for the video streams for the live gambling, because there's no other video format able to hit the latency requirements. So they had reverse-engineered the .flv format so they could build their own player that didn't require the Flash plugin but still used the video format.
-
@timebandit What amuses me is that it mentioned Adobe Air in its description. Adobe already killed off Air (which was a standalone runtime to run Flash content). Attempting to download it will redirect you to Adobe's main site.
-
-
@atazhaia I was specifically trying this on Chrome for Windows. What's more amusing is that on Chrome for Windows, hovering over the Download now button even tells you it goes to "www.adobe.com"
Edit: Turns out that Adobe has some weird form of ad block detection because as soon as I disabled ad blocking, the download now button works again.
-
@powerlord said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
Edit: Turns out that Adobe has some weird form of ad block detection because as soon as I disabled ad blocking, the download now button works again.
Why do you always assume malice? It's more likely that Adobe's website just has some part of it that generates a link blocked by an overzealous ad blocker.
-
@ben_lubar said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
@powerlord said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
Edit: Turns out that Adobe has some weird form of ad block detection because as soon as I disabled ad blocking, the download now button works again.
Why do you always assume malice? It's more likely that Adobe's website just has some part of it that generates a link blocked by an overzealous ad blocker.
Because Adobe. I'd do the same thing if it were Oracle.
-
I was exploring my NAS as activity 90 in the anti-depression category and unearthed this file:
I challenge the reader to take off every zig.
-
@Tsaukpaetra said in The turd is dead. In a flash.:
I was exploring my NAS
First read that as "I was exploding my NAS"
I took it for true without hesitation
-
@Tsaukpaetra I don't think I have anything that opens flash files anymore. Edge even refuses to download the file in the first place:
Guess I'll have to do with (re-)watching it on Youtube.
Edit: There are apparently now online flash players.
E_NO_REPRO
accessing the download page while on Linux.
