Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?
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@blakeyrat said in Good brand names for dietary supplements?:
@zecc said in Good brand names for dietary supplements?:
The reason I mentioned f.lux is that it is claimed that reducing the amount of blue light you receive from screens helps with your melatonin.
OK I'll answer your stupid question and fuck you.
A lot of things are "claimed" that aren't backed by science. I yet to see any serious study that shows that f.lux (and ripoffs) do anything whatsoever, and until I do I have that filed firmly under "bullshit-orama".
You can use f.lux while you're drinking your homeopathy "detox" tea and doing your reiki massage exercises before you enter the sensory isolation chamber to align your chakras.
When I turn off blue light reduction (Night Mode in Windows 10 or f.lux) it makes my eyes hurt. At the very least I appreciate having my eyes not hurt when looking at displays, even if there's no other effects. I have my monitors turned down to their minimum brightness setting which is still too bright IMO. Then again, I don't use my computer outside in direct sunlight, so maybe my eyes are adjusted to the dark confines of my room. It would also explain my short-sightedness.
Anyone else notice a difference with, or prefer, blue light reduction? Is there any peer-reviewed research on the topic?
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@lb_ said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
Anyone else notice a difference with, or prefer, blue light reduction?
I'm sure using Twilight on my phone while reading in bed has helped me get to sleep sooner, but I haven't timed it or anything
@lb_ said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
Is there any peer-reviewed research on the topic?
Not that I'm aware of, but I'd be interested to see any
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@lb_ Yes, yes it does "work". If the reason for your insomnia is seeing too much blue light.
Which was happening to me at one point. I'd have trouble wanting to sleep, even when I was tired. Felt dry eyes, too. A month or so after I put f.lux on my iMac, I started getting sleepy about an hour after it switched to night-time mode.
These days, I just turn off devices at 9 or so, and go to sleep at 10.
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@jaloopa said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
I'm sure
usreading Twilight on my phone while reading in bed has helped me get to sleep sooner, but I haven't timed it or anythingFTFY
Filed Under: :yawn:
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@kuro No, that would fill me with rage, which is not conducive to sleeping.
VAMPIRES AREN'T GLITTERY EMO TEENAGERS!
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Un-blue-ifing my screen reduces eyestrain for me.
I take care not to overdo it though, or else it strains my eyes. I don't go all the way red, just yellowish-white / orange. But what really makes a difference is reducing the screen's brightness to minimum. I too would go lower if I could.I have noticed a positive effect on my ability of going to sleep, as well as a negative effect when I use my tablet to read in bed (it's a tradeoff: I put up with a bluer screen for having a less eye-searing brightness. I haven't installed software to make these adjustments yet, I've only used what came with the OS. Lazy, lazy)
As for peer-reviewed research... Shrug. It works for me and that's all I really care. I don't think it's placebo effect, but who knows? I imagine it has different effects on different people.
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Does a vampire's glittery skin have any effect on the spectrum of the reflected light, and would that make it better or worse for sleep?
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I use it on my laptop (it's no good on my desktop, because it doesn't color-correct the hardware mouse cursor for some reason and therefore you end up with a dim screen with a nuclear blue mouse cursor on it.
You might note while I 100% believe the claims that it "helps sleep" are utter bullshit, I do keep the Windows 10 feature on on my laptop that I use at bedside because I do find it a little more pleasant to use, and my laptop doesn't have the nuclear blue mouse cursor problem. (Also I keep its brightness at like 20% or so. Much more than that and it's searingly bright.)
At least as far as bullshit medical claims go, f.lux/similar features doesn't cost any moneys.
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Even dim light can interfere with a person's circadian rhythm and melatonin secretion. A mere eight lux—a level of brightness exceeded by most table lamps and about twice that of a night light—has an effect, notes Stephen Lockley, a Harvard sleep researcher. Light at night is part of the reason so many people don't get enough sleep, says Lockley, and researchers have linked short sleep to increased risk for depression, as well as diabetes and cardiovascular problems.
I'll listen to @lockleyrat over @blakeyrat.
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@blakeyrat if you enable pointer trails, the mouse cursor gets drawn in software mode instead of hardware mode. But then it's invisible in fullscreen games, so...
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@lb_ said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
if you enable pointer trails, the mouse cursor gets drawn in software mode instead of hardware mode. But then it's invisible in fullscreen games, so...
I like how you people all assume I'm a retarded moron and didn't already Google the problem and try the (busted-ass, as you yourself) non-fixes that came back.
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@blakeyrat I never made that assumption. I'm simply adding useful, relevant content to this thread for the people who may not have known, and replying to the relevant post so it doesn't seem like it's coming from nowhere.
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@boomzilla said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
@blakeyrat said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
I like how
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@luhmann said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
@boomzilla said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
@blakeyrat said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
I like how
LIESFake News!It is 2017 already!
Hmm...blakey as Trump? That could work.
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@boomzilla
They are both rats ...
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@jaloopa said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
@lb_ said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
Anyone else notice a difference with, or prefer, blue light reduction?
I'm sure using Twilight on my phone while reading in bed has helped me get to sleep sooner, but I haven't timed it or anything
I read this completely differently than probably intended.
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@tsaukpaetra Yeah, I was thinking "but then you'd have Stephenie Meyer on you."
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@greybeard said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
@tsaukpaetra Yeah, I was thinking "but then you'd have Stephenie Meyer on you."
I was thinking of of a certain unicorn via usage of a mobile device while in bed, but apparently I need to read this new book or something...
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@tsaukpaetra I suppose either could work if you're trying to cure insomnia.
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@lb_ said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
Anyone else notice a difference with, or prefer, blue light reduction?
I've been having fewer problems with this sort of thing since I had a narrow-band blue filter added to my glasses prescription a couple of years ago (at the recommendation of the opthalmologist). I don't recall it increasing the cost by very much.
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@boomzilla said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
Hmm...blakey as Trump? That could work.
That was a cheap shot. Don't insult Blakey like that.
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@dkf said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
I've been having fewer problems with this sort of thing since I had a narrow-band blue filter added to my glasses prescription a couple of years ago (at the recommendation of the opthalmologist). I don't recall it increasing the cost by very much.
Clever. Fix it at the single point of failure, so to speak.
Does it change your color perception much?
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@zecc said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
@dkf said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
I've been having fewer problems with this sort of thing since I had a narrow-band blue filter added to my glasses prescription a couple of years ago (at the recommendation of the opthalmologist). I don't recall it increasing the cost by very much.
Clever. Fix it at the single point of failure, so to speak.
Does it change your color perception much?EVERYTHING IS YELLOW!!!!
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@zecc said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
Does it change your color perception much?
For most things, no. For bright white, yes (it makes my screen and my garage door quite a bit more yellow). Bright blue sky is also a bit affected, but that's harder to tell since it's really just making things a bit deeper coloured there.
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@dkf said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
I don't recall it increasing the cost by very much.
Last time I got new glasses (3 months ago), those cost 40€ more per glass. Yeah... nope!
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@dkf said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
@lb_ said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
Anyone else notice a difference with, or prefer, blue light reduction?
I've been having fewer problems with this sort of thing since I had a narrow-band blue filter added to my glasses prescription a couple of years ago (at the recommendation of the opthalmologist). I don't recall it increasing the cost by very much.
Interesting. I've been told specifically not to wear my glasses when looking at screens and close objects (books, schoolwork, etc).
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@dkf said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
For bright white, yes (it makes my screen and my garage door quite a bit more yellow).
BTW: I've been told that the latest generation of filtering glasses is much better in that regard.
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@lb_ said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
I've been told specifically not to wear my glasses when looking at screens and close objects
Not speaking for @dkf but for me that just wouldn't be feasible. I do read books with my glasses off in bed but I have to do so with one eye closed, because I need to hold them so close that I go cross-eyed and see double. If I were to try and use my computer without my glasses or contact lenses I'd have to have my face closer than the keyboard, which is somewhat awkward.
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@lb_ said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
I've been told specifically not to wear my glasses when looking at screens and close objects
Probably depends what type of correction the glasses do: long or short sighted, astigmatisms, etc.
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@lb_ I'm a lot more short-sighted than that.
I got about six inches with my good eye before I have to strain to make out letters.
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@lb_ said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
@jaloopa @CarrieVS I'm short-sighted; I can see over a meter before my vision starts to get blurry.
One whole meter? Lucky bastard...
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As someone who has struggled with sleep for decades, I will attest that reduction in blue light has a measurable impact. Now, in my own case, I do not try to reduce the spectrum from displays such as LCD's.. rather I completely avoid using those types of devices for 1.5 - 2 hours before bed so there is the chance that there are other correlating effects.
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@akko said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
@lb_ said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
@jaloopa @CarrieVS I'm short-sighted; I can see over a meter before my vision starts to get blurry.
One whole meter? Lucky bastard...
Under unknown circumstances I occasionally lose the ability to rough-focus so my eyes are stuck at 0m for a few hours until they reset. Fine-focus still works though, so I'm not completely blind, but forget reading or anything requiring accurate vision (note that this actually doesn't include driving!).
I'm pretty good at dead-reckoning things when this happens, but still annoying...
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@tsaukpaetra said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
@akko said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
@lb_ said in Blue Light Reduction: Does it work?:
@jaloopa @CarrieVS I'm short-sighted; I can see over a meter before my vision starts to get blurry.
One whole meter? Lucky bastard...
Under unknown circumstances I occasionally lose the ability to rough-focus so my eyes are stuck at 0m for a few hours until they reset. Fine-focus still works though, so I'm not completely blind, but forget reading or anything requiring accurate vision (note that this actually doesn't include driving!).
I'm pretty good at dead-reckoning things when this happens, but still annoying...
My sight is pretty much always the same level of bad (not quite true since it has been getting worse continously for the last decade or so, but slowly). Just good enough to read a book in bed without glasses, but nothing more.