Getting hyper loop vibes...


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    @gwowen It would be quite a bit further cycling since the most direct route involves a motorway.

    I am selling that car and will be getting the train in though



  • @Jaloopa said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    Yes, some people regularly drive 250+ miles in a day. Electric cars are not currently suitable for those people

    Why do people have to drive far every day? If you only have one car it doesn't matter if you only drive it 10 km to work if you can't go visit some family or go on holiday with it.

    You're also forgetting that only the Tesla has such a good range. Most of the electric cars are closer to 100km.



  • @Jaloopa said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    However, I think the majority of people who mention range and recharge times as a factor would rarely if ever actually be impacted

    That probably assumes that you have a convenient way to recharge while not driving, which I suspect most people do not. It's still much more inconvenient even if it only happens once a week.


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    @abarker said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    Aside from retrieval, what has SpaceX really contributed to rocketry?

    The Merlin engines seem to be pretty good (i.e., better than any others currently flying of the collection I could find compared on Wikipedia).


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    @boomzilla said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    That probably assumes that you have a convenient way to recharge while not driving, which I suspect most people do not. It's still much more inconvenient even if it only happens once a week.

    How many times a week do you fill up the tank on your existing car? (I usually only fill every few weeks, but then I don't use it to commute because the traffic's pretty awful that way.)



  • @dkf said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    How many times a week do you fill up the tank on your existing car?

    It can vary a lot. Sometimes I can go for 3 weeks, other weeks I might need it nearly twice in one week. But I'll often put it off (like everything else) until I really need it, which is sometimes pretty inconvenient. But still, it doesn't take that long, and I can always buy at a more expensive station if I have to, even just putting a bit into the tank.


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    @dkf said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    @boomzilla said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    That probably assumes that you have a convenient way to recharge while not driving, which I suspect most people do not. It's still much more inconvenient even if it only happens once a week.

    How many times a week do you fill up the tank on your existing car? (I usually only fill every few weeks, but then I don't use it to commute because the traffic's pretty awful that way.)

    I refill 1-2 times a week, depending on weekend driving and when during the week the first refill falls. My commuter car gets ~320 miles to a tank, and I drive a little under 70 miles per day for work. That means that I typically need to refill after 4.5 days of commuting, which of course gets thrown off by any weekend driving.


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    @abarker said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    @dkf said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    @boomzilla said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    That probably assumes that you have a convenient way to recharge while not driving, which I suspect most people do not. It's still much more inconvenient even if it only happens once a week.

    How many times a week do you fill up the tank on your existing car? (I usually only fill every few weeks, but then I don't use it to commute because the traffic's pretty awful that way.)

    I refill 1-2 times a week, depending on weekend driving and when during the week the first refill falls. My commuter car gets ~320 miles to a tank, and I drive a little under 70 miles per day for work. That means that I typically need to refill after 4.5 days of commuting, which of course gets thrown off by any weekend driving.

    peen-measuring time!

    My Tacoma gets 24 mpg, commute is 25 miles one way. I usually manage just under 1 week between fills (for safety, I avoid letting the tank getting below ~1/4 full).



  • @Jaloopa said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    However, I think the majority of people who mention range and recharge times as a factor would rarely if ever actually be impacted.

    Which doesn't matter at all. Given two options, most people will choose the one that will never have that impact. (why would you not?) So that impact (real or perceived) must be removed before people will honestly consider electric cars.

    Further, you are far under representing how much people drive in the US. An active family or social life can easily see 100+ miles in a day without them even thinking about it. (lots of short trips add up over the course of a day).


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    @gwowen said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    @Jaloopa said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    My car does 11 miles twice a day to get me into work

    Isn't that what a bicycle is for?

    no


  • Dupa

    @Dragoon said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    @Jaloopa said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    However, I think the majority of people who mention range and recharge times as a factor would rarely if ever actually be impacted.

    Further, you are far under representing how much people drive in the US. An active family or social life can easily see 100+ miles in a day without them even thinking about it. (lots of short trips add up over the course of a day).

    No, he wasn't. He simply didn't talk about the US at all.



  • @kt_ I worded that poorly.

    It should read:
    "Further, you are far under representing how much people drive. In the US, an active family...."



  • @Dragoon There is a reason for that the distances are massive compared to Europe. Even in Spain it public transport could cut it.


  • Dupa

    @Dragoon said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    @kt_ I worded that poorly.

    It should read:
    "Further, you are far under representing how much people drive. In the US, an active family...."

    :pendant: FTW!


  • Dupa

    @Dragoon said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    @kt_ I worded that poorly.

    It should read:
    "Further, you are far under representing how much people drive. In the US, an active family...."

    He didn't, really. It all depends, sure, but I make maybe 5-6k km in a year. This easily covers a few road trips and ~2 trips to work or somewhere else in the city per week (usually take a tram). My father makes ~40k. It depends whether you live in the city, whether you need to travel for work, whether your family lives far and how big is your country. Oh, and road infrastructure! Now, there probably are more, but taking all that into consider, I'd easily be able to make do with a Tesla.

    I do understand it could be harder for a typical American family, cause everybody lives in NY, LA or Austin and have their family living somewhere in the Midwest where you can't take a plane to, and even if you could it would be expensive and the mandatory beatings are a serious turn-off.


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    @lucas1 said in Getting hyper loop vibes...:

    There is a reason for that the distances are massive compared to Europe.

    European distances do get large, but that's mostly in the East or (the backwoods-y parts of) the North. There's just shit-tons of nothing (except trees and swamp and snow/biting flies) in northern Scandinavia and across into Russia up there. Just like northern Canada and most of Alaska in fact.


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