opinions on career options
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I've been writing software for a few decades and for most of the last decade all it has been is cleaning up disastrous projects from India. I am good at turning these things around but I hate it. I don't even want to make software any longer.
So let's say you had a grad degree in CS and the problem solving skills required to turn these disasters around. What are viable non-software career options?
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@ooblek Auto mechanics. Truck driving.
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@ooblek You could transition your way into something like a production/procedures consultant. But I think we have all seen Office Space and remember the two Bobs.
I wanna leave next year. But I wanna do something like hunting or fishing. Maybe go into a more Product "Design" role.
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@lucas1 that's funny to hear. I had been googling hunting/backpacking guide.
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@ooblek are you wanting to get completely out of software? Or just out of the front end role of fixing outsourced software Fiasco's?
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@Polygeekery said in opinions on career options:
@ooblek are you wanting to get completely out of software? Or just out of the front end role of fixing outsourced software Fiasco's?
@ooblek said in opinions on career options:
What are viable non-software career options?
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@fbmac I think @Polygeekery had a valid question: If you didn't have to do the crap you're doing now, would you consider staying in software?
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@NedFodder I would love to leave the software industry too, but I'm not skilled in anything.
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@fbmac said in opinions on career options:
@NedFodder I would love to leave the software industry too, but I'm not skilled in anything.
Not even software.
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@ooblek said in opinions on career options:
cleaning up disastrous projects from India. ...
What are viable non-software career options?
I'm not sure it really counts as a viable career, but the idea of relocating to Bangalore and taking up as a mass murderer has a certain appeal. :)
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@fbmac
I dunno, there are definitely monetization opportunities in secure file deletion...
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@izzion said in opinions on career options:
I dunno, there are definitely monetization opportunities in secure file deletion...
I've heard you can also earn a lot of money deleting people. It might be hard to get into that field, though, since those jobs are rarely advertised in newspapers.
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@asdf said in opinions on career options:
It might be hard to get into that field, though, since those jobs are rarely advertised in newspapers.
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Wow, is this like an alt account of mine that gained sentience?
/me checks profile
Wow, am I like this guy's alt account that gained sentience?
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@TimeBandit all I can see is "Accept cookies?". Of course, send me cookies!
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@TimeBandit said in opinions on career options:
@asdf said in opinions on career options:
It might be hard to get into that field, though, since those jobs are rarely advertised in newspapers.
I posted in the spam email thread a while back about an email I got with information on how to hire a hit man, including instructions on how to contact them untraceably, or if that's too much trouble, "just email at this address."
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@HardwareGeek said in opinions on career options:
I posted in the spam email thread a while back about an email I got with information on how to hire a hit man, including instructions on how to contact them untraceably, or if that's too much trouble, "just email at this address."
I would just reply: too late, I already have one
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@HardwareGeek I don't hate them, just the mess. :)
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@Polygeekery completely out. It no longer brings me joy.
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@blek I mostly lurk.
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@ooblek
i got that feeling some time ago. take a time off, when you're deep in the shit it's hard to see where it comes from. if you work with shitty projects it's normal to get burned from it.i spent three months doing other things and then cae back to software developing because i found myself wanting to do it again.
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@Jarry thanks you're probably right. But I'm thinking it would be more interesting to use the software skills to make software that benefits me without the need to deliver it as part of the job. An example might be automating tasks as part of another line if work. I can make software that makes me more efficient without all the other fluff and BS.
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You're not gonna find a better tradeoff of what you know to do + job security + monetary reward than software engineering.
You should just do what most software people do when they get tired of developing software, which is move into a related field, like administration or management.
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@ooblek Maybe teaching people to program
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@Adynathos that seems like a good idea.
Have you ever taken an online programming course or tried to learn via youtube? Was it lacking anything?
I had actually thought about teaching software engineering rather than just plain programming. I'm not sure there is much of that education out there. Most people seem to be concentrating on "code academies " rather than the other part of the software dev career requirements.
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@ooblek said in opinions on career options:
Have you ever taken an online programming course or tried to learn via youtube? Was it lacking anything?
No, I have learned by making game mods. I can't remember how it feels to not know programming - but if someone asked how to learn, I would tell them to pick an application they want to create and try making it, look up how to do it.
Most people seem to be concentrating on "code academies " rather than the other part of the software dev career requirements.
The topic I find most challenging in software is working in a group, trusting others, dividing tasks and agreeing on solutions.
This is rarely taught at university, and your experience in big corporate projects would be valuable in that topic.Turning that into a profitable job is probably not simple. But maybe some companies organize training sessions for their employees and need some training consultants.