Technet blues



  • After experiencing several blue screens this evening, I wondered if I could check the .dmp files to gain some insight.

    Open the .dmp with C++, then start debug, but VC++ complains about the dump file format.

    Google "windows crash dump analysis" suggests a Technet Webcast by Mark Russinovich, Chief Software Architect and Cofounder, Winternals Software (Microsoft Tech·Ed)

    Sounds good, but to see the broadcast, I have to register.  To register for the broadcast, I first have to register for a Microsoft Live ID.  But wait, I think I already have one, I can't log in though. OK, get the password emailed to me, manage to log in.  Now I have to fill in a page of personal information.  It says to press cancel if I don't want to provide this information, but that just kicks me back out to the "register" page.  So I log in again, fill out all the information, and I finally get to a page with a link to the actual presentation.  Well, not quite.  I have to provide my email and company name.  OK, so now I am on a page with the actual link, but it is saying that I need to be running Internet Explorer 6.1.  Arghh, I have done all of this in Firefox, so I start over again, this time in IE.  When I finally get to the page with the broadcast link, I am being asked to install Live Meeting.  Which is furnished by a third party, and is not digitally signed.  I click cancel and give up.  



  • This story is very familiar to me.  I hate the websites that require you to jump through 100 hoops of fire and tame the alaskan wildabeast.



  • 1. Event page
    2. Live login -> bugmenot
    3. OK
    4. OK
    5. "Register for event" / "Yes, want to watch" (or something like that)
    6. put some email (not checked) and name
    7. "Click to download Live Meeting Replay for offline viewing." (Downloads wmv)

    Done on FF... bugmenot is great sometimes :)

    For "normal" users - it's WTF hell... But maybe direct link will help - https://www119.livemeeting.com/cc/mseventsbmo/downloadLMM.wmv?ticketID=37nq4lzl6m1kv1xx



  • @viraptor said:

    bugmenot is great sometimes :)

    Agreed 



  • @joblini said:

    After experiencing several blue screens this evening, I wondered if I could check the .dmp files to gain some insight.

    Open the .dmp with C++, then start debug, but VC++ complains about the dump file format.

    Google "windows crash dump analysis" suggests a Technet Webcast by Mark Russinovich, Chief Software Architect and Cofounder, Winternals Software (Microsoft Tech·Ed)

    Sounds good, but to see the broadcast, I have to register.  To register for the broadcast, I first have to register for a Microsoft Live ID.  But wait, I think I already have one, I can't log in though. OK, get the password emailed to me, manage to log in.  Now I have to fill in a page of personal information.  It says to press cancel if I don't want to provide this information, but that just kicks me back out to the "register" page.  So I log in again, fill out all the information, and I finally get to a page with a link to the actual presentation.  Well, not quite.  I have to provide my email and company name.  OK, so now I am on a page with the actual link, but it is saying that I need to be running Internet Explorer 6.1.  Arghh, I have done all of this in Firefox, so I start over again, this time in IE.  When I finally get to the page with the broadcast link, I am being asked to install Live Meeting.  Which is furnished by a third party, and is not digitally signed.  I click cancel and give up.  


       Or just use WinDbg instead.  :-O

     



  • @joblini said:

    Open the .dmp with C++, then start debug, but VC++ complains about the dump file format.

    I really want to know what you honestly thought would happen when you did this. What did you expect? This sticks out at me as being far more WTFy than anything else in the post. 



  • @joblini said:

    After experiencing several blue screens this evening, I wondered if I could check the .dmp files to gain some insight.

    Open the .dmp with C++, then start debug, but VC++ complains about the dump file format.

    Google "windows crash dump analysis" suggests a Technet Webcast by Mark Russinovich, Chief Software Architect and Cofounder, Winternals Software (Microsoft Tech·Ed)

    Sounds good, but to see the broadcast, I have to register.  To register for the broadcast, I first have to register for a Microsoft Live ID.  But wait, I think I already have one, I can't log in though. OK, get the password emailed to me, manage to log in.  <snip> <snip>  I click cancel and give up.  

    You are much more patient than I am! I don't even bother with sites that require me to register unless I have no alternatives. And if after registration there are any further steps, especially if it asks me to install any software to view their content, I give up. For one, any site that makes you go through such trouble to view there content probably has poor content in the first place and they want to get all their page views in before you, the user, figure it out. Secondly, it doesn't take special software to watch a streaming video or read a pdf, I probably wouldn't want the help of any site that thinks it does.

    I'm sure you eventually found your answer at a much less complicated website.



  • Maybe you should try searching without quotes in the future.  I assume this because the first hit I got on Google for a non-quoted "windows crash dump analysis" suggested getting WinDbg and the second site was a tutorial on how to use WinDbg (which, of course, is what you want in this situation).



  • @GoatCheez said:

    @joblini said:

    Open the .dmp with C++, then start debug, but VC++ complains about the dump file format.

    I really want to know what you honestly thought would happen when you did this. What did you expect? This sticks out at me as being far more WTFy than anything else in the post. 

    Allow me to quote from the MSDN site, the article can be found at http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb204861.aspx

    Analysis of a minidump

    Opening a minidump for analysis is as easy as creating one.

    1. Open Visual Studio
    2. Select File->Open->Project
    3. Select the minidump file
    4. Run the debugger

    The debugger will create a simulated process. The simulated process will be halted at the instruction that caused the crash.

    <snip/> 

     You can also use the Windows Debugging Tools to debug a minidump.
    WinDbg is a debugger that comes with the Windows Debugging Tool set.
    WinDbg allows a developer or tester to debug without having to use
    Visual Studio.

     

     

     



  • @joblini said:

    @GoatCheez said:
    @joblini said:

    Open the .dmp with C++, then start debug, but VC++ complains about the dump file format.

    I really want to know what you honestly thought would happen when you did this. What did you expect? This sticks out at me as being far more WTFy than anything else in the post. 

    Allow me to quote from the MSDN site, the article can be found at http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb204861.aspx

    Analysis of a minidump

    Opening a minidump for analysis is as easy as creating one.

    1. Open Visual Studio
    2. Select File->Open->Project
    3. Select the minidump file
    4. Run the debugger

    The debugger will create a simulated process. The simulated process will be halted at the instruction that caused the crash.

    <snip/> 

     You can also use the Windows Debugging Tools to debug a minidump.
    WinDbg is a debugger that comes with the Windows Debugging Tool set.
    WinDbg allows a developer or tester to debug without having to use
    Visual Studio.


    I just got served lol. It's a good thing though, as I had no idea such a nifty and useful thing could be done. 


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