Edge



  • Am I just unlucky or is that browser extremely prone to freezing and crashing?

    In my tablet, when I click a link, it will occasionally "freeze" anywhere between 5 and 30 seconds, during which I can scroll but not click anything. Sometimes it will show that message that "the website is not responding" (don't blame the website for your own problems!). Chrome and Firefox on the other hand seem to do fine. IE11 also seems to be laggy though, so I guess it's an old problem.

    Even in my desktop, it managed to crash twice today, not sure how. And some things seem to work in weird ways, for example, right now I hit ctrl+T and the "new tab page" appeared immediately (replacing the current page body) but it took 2 seconds for the tab to actually appear in the tab bar. How does that even happen?

    For a browser that they keep insisting has been ultra-optimized for Windows 10 and is totally new and faster than Chrome and all that, it feels pretty sluggish.


  • SockDev

    @anonymous234 I personally find Edge to be rather poor as a browser. It lacks a lot of features that Chrome, Firefox, et al have, and doesn't have any benefits to offset its drawbacks enough.

    At least it's standards-compliant.



  • I can't remember the last time I took Microsoft's word for anything, their promises that this would be a wholly new product is no exception. "Optimized for Windows 10" apparently means "it's only available on Windows 10".


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    @aapis said in Edge:

    I can't remember the last time I took Microsoft's word for anything, their promises that this would be a wholly new product is no exception. "Optimized for Windows 10" apparently means "it's only available on Windows 10".

    "Runs 100% better on Windows 10!"



  • @pydsigner said in Edge:

    @aapis said in Edge:

    I can't remember the last time I took Microsoft's word for anything, their promises that this would be a wholly new product is no exception. "Optimized for Windows 10" apparently means "it's only available on Windows 10".

    "Runs 100% better on Windows 10!"



  • @fwd said in Edge:

    @pydsigner said in Edge:

    @aapis said in Edge:

    I can't remember the last time I took Microsoft's word for anything, their promises that this would be a wholly new product is no exception. "Optimized for Windows 10" apparently means "it's only available on Windows 10".

    "Runs 100% better on Windows 10!"

    Mostly.

    I have no idea how to get that to display properly, halp?


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    @swayde said in Edge:

    @fwd said in Edge:

    @pydsigner said in Edge:

    @aapis said in Edge:

    I can't remember the last time I took Microsoft's word for anything, their promises that this would be a wholly new product is no exception. "Optimized for Windows 10" apparently means "it's only available on Windows 10".

    "Runs 100% better on Windows 10!"

    Mostly.

    I have no idea how to get that to display properly, halp?

    It runs 100% on Windows 10, but it doesn't hurt to give it some 91 octane every once in a while.



  • @anonymous234 said in Edge:

    Am I just unlucky or is that browser extremely prone to freezing and crashing?

    In my tablet, when I click a link, it will occasionally "freeze" anywhere between 5 and 30 seconds, during which I can scroll but not click anything. Sometimes it will show that message that "the website is not responding" (don't blame the website for your own problems!). Chrome and Firefox on the other hand seem to do fine. IE11 also seems to be laggy though, so I guess it's an old problem.

    Even in my desktop, it managed to crash twice today, not sure how. And some things seem to work in weird ways, for example, right now I hit ctrl+T and the "new tab page" appeared immediately (replacing the current page body) but it took 2 seconds for the tab to actually appear in the tab bar. How does that even happen?

    For a browser that they keep insisting has been ultra-optimized for Windows 10 and is totally new and faster than Chrome and all that, it feels pretty sluggish.

    Not experienced crashing like what you said, is this poorly written antivirus extension or what? Note that my PC don't have antivirus other than Windows Defender installed and no plugins. In my experience Chrome and Firefox crashes more than Edge. Often when some web page apparently containing bugs that it cannot survive in Chrome or Firefox (means crash), it'd be open okay in Edge.

    For the "occasionally freeze" problem, yes I've experienced that too. And Edge is noticably more sluggish than other other browser when running javascript heavy pages. This is very annoying and that's why I cannot use it as my daily browser.



  • @fwd said in Edge:

    @pydsigner said in Edge:

    @aapis said in Edge:

    I can't remember the last time I took Microsoft's word for anything, their promises that this would be a wholly new product is no exception. "Optimized for Windows 10" apparently means "it's only available on Windows 10".

    "Runs 100% better on Windows 10!"

    If you mean 100% CPU usage even when idle, then yes.

    If you mean 100% memory usage with a single tab open, also yes - but the same is true of Cram and Firefux, too.



  • @cheong said in Edge:

    Not experienced crashing like what you said,

    Neither have I, and I use Edge as my everyday browser on my work laptop, because raisins. It's awful, but not because of random crashes, at least not while I'm using it. My main problem with it is that if I have multiple tabs open and put the machine to sleep to go to a meeting or overnight, it's a complete crap-shoot what tabs will still be open when I wake it up again. Of course, it's the ones I use the most that are most likely to be missing.

    Also, the UI in one of my most often used pages (music streaming) is broken. "Now Playing" and "Recent" never update, and a few widgets are in the wrong place, covering other widgets. (FWIW, IE is similarly broken, but it works fine in Chrome. I don't know if the problem is in IE/Edge or the site implementation (INB4 Why not both?), but I see the problem in Edge, so I'll blame it.)



  • I have another Edge/IE related question.

    When visiting some sites, for example http://kecskelany.tumblr.com, Firefox entirely freezes up sometimes.

    IE/Edge does too, but after maybe half a minute it offers up a button saying "Recover webpage" which magically fixes everything.

    What does that button do?



  • This is the same Edge that for some inexplicable reason manages to manipulate how PHP receives data (or the data type, or the form encoding, or something...I literally never got to the bottom of it) in older versions of PHPMailer causing the mail script not to fire for no apparent fucking reason despite it being a server side script working on every other major browser including IE7 and up?



  • @marczellm said in Edge:

    What does that button do?

    It loads the page in a Google Chrome browser running in Azure, then sends the output to your Edge browser.



  • "There's this product line that's known for being buggy, broken, shit to use and full of security holes. I just installed the latest version to try it out. It's buggy, broken, shit to use and full of security holes. Does anyone know what the problem is?"

    :facepalm:



  • @Lorne-Kates If only @FrostCat were here to tell how some of that has been fixed in the latest insider build or @Blakeyrat were here to tell us how Edge is following a standard that none of the other browsers follow or that web devs use.



  • @boomzilla how Edge is following a standard that none of the other browsers follow or that web devs use.

    I mean, give him some (presumed) credit, he wouldn't be entirely wrong.


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    @TimeBandit said in Edge:

    @marczellm said in Edge:

    What does that button do?

    It loads the page in a Google Chrome browser running in Azure, then sends the output to your Edge browser.

    ...and then sends you a bill for the rendering time.



  • @Polygeekery said in Edge:

    ...and then sends you a bill for the rendering time.

    No, they actually pay you for using this shit Edge


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    @anonymous234 said in Edge:

    In my tablet, when I click a link, it will occasionally "freeze" anywhere between 5 and 30 seconds, during which I can scroll but not click anything. Sometimes it will show that message that "the website is not responding" (don't blame the website for your own problems!). Chrome and Firefox on the other hand seem to do fine. IE11 also seems to be laggy though, so I guess it's an old problem.

    It is an improvement over IE. When IE froze up, you could not scroll.

    My major pet peeve with MS browsers is that they used to default to MSN homepages, and if you did not hit Esc in time, you had to wait for the page to finish loading all of its clusterfuckery before you could download Chrome.

    Fucking MSN. Let's see how much shit we can cram on one webpage so that we take forever to load!!


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    @TimeBandit and not even that has worked, so people will not even use Bing if you pay them.



  • @Polygeekery said in Edge:

    @TimeBandit and not even that has worked, so people will not even use Bing if you pay them.

    Remember that, according to Micro-Soft, if you are not paying for the product, you are the product.

    Just wondering :wtf: it is when the product is paying you ???


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    @TimeBandit said in Edge:

    Just wondering :wtf: it is when the product is paying you ???

    A failure.

    Or, a product as shit as spam emails that promise you can make thousands per week taking surveys online.


  • I survived the hour long Uno hand

    @TimeBandit
    If the product is paying you, you're a hooker.

    And @Lorne-Kates is coming to kill you.



  • @izzion said in Edge:

    And @Lorne-Kates is coming to kill you.

    I'm not a trans-hooker, so I'm OK :wink:



  • @TimeBandit said in Edge:

    @izzion said in Edge:

    And @Lorne-Kates is coming to kill you.

    I'm not a trans-hooker, so I'm OK :wink:

    Something something browser identification (user-agent) feelz something?



  • @Polygeekery said in Edge:

    you had to wait for the page to finish loading all of its clusterfuckery before you could download Chrome.

    FWP is :arrows:



  • @Lorne-Kates said in Edge:

    Something something browser identification (user-agent) feelz something?

    Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:22.0) Gecko/20130405 Firefox/22.0 :smirk:


  • SockDev

    @Polygeekery said in Edge:

    My major pet peeve with MS browsers is that they used to default to MSN homepages, and if you did not hit Esc in time, you had to wait for the page to finish loading all of its clusterfuckery before you could download Chrome.

    :fa_windows: :fa_plus: R iexplore.exe https://google.com/chrome :fa_plus: ENTER

    :fa_question:


    :shrug: :hanzo: 'D :fa_question_circle:


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    @accalia Why did I never think of that?

    Probably because it is only something that comes up when setting up a new machine, which does not happen often enough for me to really care. Plus, I usually catch it in time and just hit Esc and all is good.



  • @accalia said in Edge:

    :fa_windows: :fa_plus: R iexplore.exe https://ninite.com/ :fa_plus: ENTER

    FTFY



  • @accalia said in Edge:

    :fa_windows: :fa_plus: R iexplore.exe https://google.com/chrome :fa_plus: ENTER

    No telnet to port 80 piped to a file?

    I is dissapoint.


  • SockDev

    @Lorne-Kates said in Edge:

    @accalia said in Edge:

    :fa_windows: :fa_plus: R iexplore.exe https://google.com/chrome :fa_plus: ENTER

    No telnet to port 80 piped to a file?

    I is dissapoint.

    if i remembered the download location and trusted google not to mysteriously move it periodically i'd do just that.



  • @accalia No access to a new Windows install at the moment to check but would you even need the iexplore.exe?


  • BINNED

    Edge has plenty of problems, but what's people's issue with Bing beyond "Micro$oft = bad"? It's almost identical to Google



  • @Jaloopa said in Edge:

    Edge has plenty of problems, but what's people's issue with Bing beyond "Micro$oft = bad"? It's almost identical to Google

    0_1481750773660_upload-faaa9cc9-5b13-45dd-b405-de458bfd91d7



  • @loopback0 said in Edge:

    @accalia No access to a new Windows install at the moment to check but would you even need the iexplore.exe?

    Because iexplore.bat doesn't work.


  • BINNED

    @TimeBandit so no reasoning, just a dislike of MS? I'm shocked, I tell you



  • @Jaloopa said in Edge:

    @TimeBandit so no reasoning, just a dislike of MS? I'm shocked, I tell you

    Every time I tried Bing, the results I got sucked big-time.
    While in Google, I found what I was looking for.

    It is probably better now (I really hope for them) but unless Google search start sucking donkey balls, why the hell would I switch ?

    See, there is reasoning.
    Unshock yourself !!!



  • @Jaloopa said in Edge:

    It's almost identical to Google

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=bing+sucks&go=Submit+Query&qs=ds&form=QBLH

    https://www.google.ca/search?q=bing+sucks


  • :belt_onion:

    @RaceProUK said in Edge:

    At least it's standards-compliant.

    That's what Opera said about their browser 10 years ago, when it couldn't render a lot of web pages.



  • @El_Heffe said in Edge:

    @RaceProUK said in Edge:

    At least it's standards-compliant.

    That's what Opera said about their browser 10 years ago, when it couldn't render a lot of web pages.

    I was going to do a :opera: talking head joke, and then I realized Opera sucks so much we don't even have a Emoji for it.

    And then I was going to do a :fa_firefox: :fa_chrome: :fa_ie: :fa_safari: joke of them all laughing at Opera, but we don't have Emjoicons for those either?

    Fuck 2016.



  • @Lorne-Kates I think you mean :fa_internet_explorer: .

    Edge is :fa_edge: .

    And then there is :fa_opera: too.

    Now you can craft your story.



  • @loopback0 said in Edge:

    @accalia No access to a new Windows install at the moment to check but would you even need the iexplore.exe?

    0_1481871680714_upload-b23562d2-9774-4043-9a2f-37647896ae83

    It works!


  • Dupa

    @Jaloopa said in Edge:

    Edge has plenty of problems, but what's people's issue with Bing beyond "Micro$oft = bad"? It's almost identical to Google

    It's definitely not, especially for non-English searches.


  • BINNED

    @TimeBandit said in Edge:

    @Jaloopa said in Edge:

    @TimeBandit so no reasoning, just a dislike of MS? I'm shocked, I tell you

    Every time I tried Bing, the results I got sucked big-time.
    While in Google, I found what I was looking for.

    It is probably better now (I really hope for them) but unless Google search start sucking donkey balls, why the hell would I switch ?

    See, there is reasoning.
    Unshock yourself !!!

    It's been good enough for me that I haven't bothered changing the search default in Edge.

    I also haven't changed the default in Chrome on my work PC from Google.

    @kt_ said in Edge:

    It's definitely not, especially for non-English searches.

    I haven't tried any non English searches, so you may be right there. All I know is I can usually find what I want on either tool


  • SockDev

    @Lorne-Kates said in Edge:

    @Jaloopa said in Edge:

    It's almost identical to Google

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=bing+sucks&go=Submit+Query&qs=ds&form=QBLH

    https://www.google.ca/search?q=bing+sucks

    0_1481894883011_upload-595833f7-6883-4936-9d23-56bf7d513247

    0_1481894900847_upload-404a423b-3a6c-4f67-b525-9f5d3cd89f41

    0_1481894927059_Laughing (2).gif


  • SockDev

    @loopback0 said in Edge:

    @accalia No access to a new Windows install at the moment to check but would you even need the iexplore.exe?

    yes actually. it means i can't accidentally get Edge.

    IE is bad enough but Edge?

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


  • BINNED


  • SockDev

    @Jaloopa said in Edge:

    @accalia :belt_onion:

    i have an onion.

    i have a belt.

    I'm not afraid to use them!

    :tangerine:



  • @accalia said in Edge:

    i have an onion.
    i have a belt.

    Uh!
    I have a terrible 2016 meme!


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