Trust is a strange thing.



  • So I live in a very low crime area. I tend to forget to lock things. I rarely worry about locking my front door when I go out, I don't even bother closing my windows in the summer.

    I left my car today in the middle of the Portsmouth (which is relatively high crime), unlocked and I had my macbook (under the seat in a bag) because I forgot it was there. The Macbook Pro is probably worth more than my 10 year old car.

    Car wasn't touched. I suppose I was lucky as fuck that nobody just tried the door.

    I used to be paranoid about theft when I had a £500 mountain bike in the early 2000s.

    Have I got too rich to care?
    Should I buy a Merc so I would "Give a shit again"?

    Discuss ...



  • @lucas1 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    Should I buy a Merc so I would "Give a shit again"?

    No, because there are much better cars for less money.







  • @lucas1 What type of car do you have?



  • @RaceProUK 4 wheels.


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    @lucas1 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @RaceProUK 4 wheels.

    Skipped right past that third wheel, did you? :trollface:


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    Trust is a weakness.



  • @Weng said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    Trust is a weakness.

    Pain is trust leaving the body...?


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    @lucas1 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    So I live in a very low crime area. I tend to forget to lock things. I rarely worry about locking my front door when I go out, I don't even bother closing my windows in the summer.

    I left my car today in the middle of the Portsmouth (which is relatively high crime), unlocked and I had my macbook (under the seat in a bag) because I forgot it was there. The Macbook Pro is probably worth more than my 10 year old car.

    Car wasn't touched. I suppose I was lucky as fuck that nobody just tried the door.

    I used to be paranoid about theft when I had a £500 mountain bike in the early 2000s.

    Have I got too rich to care?
    Should I buy a Merc so I would "Give a shit again"?

    Discuss ...

    That's a acrually interesting, I mean considering how much of a high crime place Portsmouth is. You can't really be sure when walking through Southampton, let alone when you leave a car there, all open so everybody can see it's so open like you wouldn't believe. And let's be honest, it wouldn't be so bad if not for the density of the Britain. I mean, there are so many people and the island is so small that I'm amazed that leaving a car in Brighton, all unattended and all like you know, disnt result in it being stomped on by those pesky immigrants.

    Britain is looking better by day and thanks to @lucas1, we can appreciate seeing it almost in the real time.


  • Dupa

    @lucas1 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    So I live in a very low crime area. I tend to forget to lock things. I rarely worry about locking my front door when I go out, I don't even bother closing my windows in the summer.

    I left my car today in the middle of the Portsmouth (which is relatively high crime), unlocked and I had my macbook (under the seat in a bag) because I forgot it was there. The Macbook Pro is probably worth more than my 10 year old car.

    Car wasn't touched. I suppose I was lucky as fuck that nobody just tried the door.

    I used to be paranoid about theft when I had a £500 mountain bike in the early 2000s.

    Have I got too rich to care?
    Should I buy a Merc so I would "Give a shit again"?

    Discuss ...

    @lucas1, you should definitely buy a Merc, you would look so awesome driving it like you wouldn't believe. Your beautiful face, strong arms and natural confidence would go great with the leather seats of a Merc and the mahogany dashboard. You could cruise the city and all the ladies would want to give you a BJ, seeing how much you don't care and how much money you make. I mean, I would want to give you a BJ, if I ever saw you driving this thing, your hair blowing in the wind, your forehead beaming with brightness and knowledge of things to come and those that have already come to pass.

    @lucas1, I wanna have your children in the Merc!


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    @lucas1 What is the make, model and licence plate of your car? Asking for a friend


  • Dupa

    @Vault_Dweller said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @lucas1 What is the make, model and licence plate of your car? Asking for a friend

    That's clever, cause you know that by asking him about plate number you also get to know first registration year.



  • My collegue usually describe cars that have very low value to be "naturally immune from being stolen".

    I think maybe it also applies to things that you put inside these cars. Afterall, if your car is cheap one with next to no value (I mean, usually you get money when you sell your car to second-hand carshops because even if they can't resell it, they can still get some money by selling it to metal recycle shop. But there exists some models that the second hand carshops refuse to take. I'm referring to those models), thieves may perceive the car as "low value target" that don't worth their time to lockpick and see inside.


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    @cheong said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    My collegue usually describe cars that have very low value to be "naturally immune from being stolen

    My anti theft mechanism when I rode cheap and dirty motorbikes was to always try to park next to much nicer bikes. Worked well. The only bike I had stolen was from outside my house, where there were no other bikes. I always made double sure to lock up the replacement.



  • @cheong said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    My collegue usually describe cars that have very low value to be "naturally immune from being stolen".

    An illustration of that rule: when I was a student, I had an old Citroen AX (and not a shiny one like on the pictures... although it had a rather large engine for its size and weight, making it surprisingly good fun to drive!). The hatch mechanism was a cheap bit of plastic that broke far too easily, and therefore half of the time I left the hatch unlocked, the other half it was locked with a bit of string (just so that it didn't vibrate too much). I don't think the car was ever "visited", although given the crap that was inside it might have been without me noticing.


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    @Tsaukpaetra said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @lucas1 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @RaceProUK 4 wheels.

    Skipped right past that third wheel, did you? :trollface:

    I was gonna say, if it were a Reliant Robin, I could see why it wouldn't be stolen.


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    @cheong said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    My collegue usually describe cars that have very low value to be "naturally immune from being stolen".
    I think maybe it also applies to things that you put inside these cars. Afterall, if your car is cheap one with next to no value

    When I was young the mother of a friend of mine had a cheap car. It was broken into so often that at some point she put a paper into the car asking the recurring burglars to please stop breaking into the car as all the repairs were getting more costly than the car itself was worth and she wasn't putting anything of value into the car anyway..

    Filed Under: I haven't seen that friend in a few years so I don't know if it worked or if she bought a more secure car at some point...



  • @lolwhat said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    , I could see why it wouldn't be stolen.

    Are you kidding me? It would be stolen immediately just to see if they could make it to the end of the street without tipping it over.


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    @lolwhat said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @Tsaukpaetra said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @lucas1 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @RaceProUK 4 wheels.

    Skipped right past that third wheel, did you? :trollface:

    I was gonna say, if it were a Reliant Robin, I could see why it wouldn't be stolen.

    Reliants are easy to steal though. Two strong people could probably lift one onto a trailer, even with the handbrake on. Then you drive it away and break in in your own time.

    Or, like my brother once discovered on my dad's Regal, use one of the tools in a Swiss Army knife to open the lock just as easily as you do with a key



  • @lucas1 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    Should I buy a Merc

    See if you can get your hands on a W168 A-Class.

    And Smart Fortwos are technically Mercedes too.



  • @Kuro said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    It was broken into so often that at some point she put a paper into the car asking the recurring burglars to please stop breaking into the car as all the repairs were getting more costly than the car itself was worth and she wasn't putting anything of value into the car anyway..

    That's asking for vandals to break in and leave a note saying "just checking".



  • @lucas1 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    Should I buy a Merc so I would "Give a shit again"?

    Not sure about buying one, but if you hire a merc and have him sit in the car when you’re away, very likely nobody is going to mess with it. At least not more than once, anyway.

    As for the thread title: not so much “strange” as “cheap”.



  • @remi said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    An illustration of that rule: when I was a student, I had an old Citroen AX (and not a shiny one like on the pictures... although it had a rather large engine for its size and weight, making it surprisingly good fun to drive!).

    Funny, my first one was a 2000cc CX. Also old and pretty crap, but long enough to comfortably sleep in if required. I could leave it unlocked everywhere. Eventually I ditched it because the spare parts are ridiculously expensive, like those brake pads with the moulded-in wires that make a light turn on when it's time to change them instead of just making funny noises like in other cars but because of that they cost ten times as much.



  • Macbook Pro

    Idiot.

    Filed under: oh wait, wrong os



  • @LaoC There wasn't anything that fancy in my AX (it had electric windows... does that count?), but I had a leak in the brake fluid circuit and never bothered to have it fixed, relying on braking harder and harder and topping up the fluid from time to time. In retrospect, that was pretty crazy from my part (especially since I wasn't broke to the point of not being able to pay for a proper repair!).

    Then after a few years the clutch started to get loose and in the end I could shift without using the clutch pedal, just moving the gear lever. Of course, the downside of that was that if I tried to rev up the motor, the gear started to slip and the car didn't accelerate at all.


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    @djls45 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @Weng said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    Trust is a weakness.

    Pain is trust leaving the body...?

    Certain kinds of pain, yes.



  • Generally remote locking systems are so insecure you should probably regard any car as silently open-able anyway. In a sleepy village in Bedfordshire we quite often find someone has rifled through a number of cars in a night.


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    @Helix said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    Generally remote locking systems are so insecure you should probably regard any car as silently open-able anyway. In a sleepy village in Bedfordshire we quite often find someone has rifled through a number of cars in a night.

    :wave: I don't have a working fob anymore, but somehow the system was bypassed a little while ago. I removed the fuse powering the unit.



  • @Helix Doesn't matter if the remote locking is secure. Pick the right car and you can just smash the window, disable the alarm before it triggers, code a new key and drive away.

    I don't worry about the car getting stolen - if someone wants to steal it, they're going to take it one way or another - so I just make sure it's suitably secured so that if that happens, the insurance company are going to pay out.

    @Helix said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    In a sleepy village in Bedfordshire we quite often find someone has rifled through a number of cars in a night.

    Luckily that doesn't happen in the sleepy village in Cambridgeshire my cars spend most of their time.


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    @Gurth I used to use a keyboard by them.

    Awful.



  • @lucas1 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    Should I buy a Merc so I would "Give a shit again"?

    Sure, but then you'd just end up giving a shit about the next time it was going to break down.



  • I have a shit car that I don't ever lock. I've found the glove compartment opened and rifled through while it was parked right in front of my house on at least one occasion, but they didn't steal anything. Unless maybe that was the time when they did take maybe $2 in loose coins (which, to be fair, couldn't be seen from outside the car, so they'd only have found it by opening the door and looking); after the one time that happened, I just quit leaving loose change in it anymore. I've still got one coin stashed in it for when I need to unlock a shopping trolley but it's tucked away where I'm reasonably sure nobody will find it. And that's mostly just to avoid the inconvenience of it not being there when I need it.

    Although to be fair, it's mostly just because it's really hard to unlock any of the door locks on that vehicle. I have a slightly newer vehicle that I do lock.


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    What the fuck was that?



  • @Polygeekery said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @Lorne-Kates said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @lucas1 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

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    What the fuck was that?

    My opinon on Disqus: fuck it with a leaky car battery.


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    @Luhmann said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @lolwhat said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    , I could see why it wouldn't be stolen.

    Are you kidding me? It would be stolen immediately just to see if they could make it to the end of the street without tipping it over.

    Skip the stealing step, just tip it over in place.


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    @loopback0 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    I don't worry about the car getting stolen - if someone wants to steal it, they're going to take it one way or another - so I just make sure it's suitably secured so that if that happens, the insurance company are going to pay out.

    Plus, you can just follow the cloud of exhaust smoke to the chop shop.


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    @loopback0 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @lucas1 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    Should I buy a Merc so I would "Give a shit again"?

    Sure, but then you'd just end up giving a shit about the next time it was going to break down.

    Also, the GPS always defaults to Warsaw for the destination.



  • @Polygeekery said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @loopback0 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @lucas1 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    Should I buy a Merc so I would "Give a shit again"?

    Sure, but then you'd just end up giving a shit about the next time it was going to break down.

    Also, the GPS always defaults to Warsaw for the destination.

    Your car is going to end up in Poland sooner or later, so might as well save you time.


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    @Maciejasjmj few things on here legitimately make me LOL. That was one of them.



  • @Polygeekery said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    Plus, you can just follow the cloud of exhaust smoke to the chop shop.

    Pfft. Only one of them is a (known) emissions cheat.


    Filed under: :blue_car::fog:

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    @loopback0 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @Polygeekery said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    Plus, you can just follow the cloud of exhaust smoke to the chop shop.

    Pfft. Only one of them is a (known) emissions cheat.


    Filed under: :blue_car::fog:

    Want to hear something amusing Re:Volkswagen?

    A friend of mine had one of the diesel cars that cheated emissions. Volkswagen offered him a very nice buyout offer that, IIRC, was an offer to buy back the car that was good for several years along with a sizeable discount on a new Volkswagen when he did so.

    He was ecstatic. So, he made a plan to drive his current car until right before the buyback offer expired, trade it in and get way more than the car would be worth at that point and buy a new Volkswagen at the time, to make the most of the offer they made him.

    A month later he got impatient in a construction zone, decided to make a u-turn and take a different route, gets hit by a pickup and the car was totaled. This obviously nullified the offer Volkswagen had made and the insurance was a few grand shy of paying off his car...

    Best laid plans of mice and men...



  • @Polygeekery said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @loopback0 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @Polygeekery said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    Plus, you can just follow the cloud of exhaust smoke to the chop shop.

    Pfft. Only one of them is a (known) emissions cheat.


    Filed under: :blue_car::fog:

    Want to hear something amusing Re:Volkswagen?

    A friend of mine had one of the diesel cars that cheated emissions. Volkswagen offered him a very nice buyout offer that, IIRC, was an offer to buy back the car that was good for several years along with a sizeable discount on a new Volkswagen when he did so.

    He was ecstatic. So, he made a plan to drive his current car until right before the buyback offer expired, trade it in and get way more than the car would be worth at that point and buy a new Volkswagen at the time, to make the most of the offer they made him.

    A month later he got impatient in a construction zone, decided to make a u-turn and take a different route, gets hit by a pickup and the car was totaled. This obviously nullified the offer Volkswagen had made and the insurance was a few grand shy of paying off his car...

    Best laid plans of mice and men...

    Ouch.

    No buy back in Europe or even the $1000 that was $500 prepaid Visa and $500 VW dealer credit. Just a few letters and a trip to the dealer that I've still not booked in.



  • @aliceif said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    I used to use a keyboard by them.

    Awful.

    I’ve only really had experience with their mice, and well … you get what you pay for.



  • @loopback0 said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    No buy back in Europe or even the $1000 that was $500 prepaid Visa and $500 VW dealer credit. Just a few letters and a trip to the dealer that I've still not booked in.

    Yep, I can confirm. Although I got lucky, their recall includes an emission check and the easiest way for them to do that is to get the car to pass the local equivalent of an MOT. Since that was due anyway, I got that for free.

    VW saved me about 50 euro-pounds-dollar (doesn't matter which one, it's just to give an idea of the value). Meh.



  • @loopback0

    My point was about the laptop left in it, not the fact the car itself might be stolen



  • @Helix said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    @loopback0

    My point was about the laptop left in it, not the fact the car itself might be stolen

    Ah, well that doesn't happen here either.



  • I left my computer equipment btw in my car for 3 days because I forgot I needed it.



  • @kt_ I sense sarcasm :D



  • @Zecc said in Trust is a strange thing.:

    W168 A-Class

    I don't have kids or anything like that. I am looking at C class.


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