Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well
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@Gąska I have to say the driver is probably punished enough. I guess much depended on how he behaved afterwards. If he didn't drive away after the accident and now is in psychologic care for instance because he's so devastated, the judge might be reasonable.
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@vhe a law that is applied differently depending on emotional state of the perpetrator is in violation of the equality rule. Emotional reactions are faked easily enough that I don't believe such law can be any effective towards people who should be put in jail even by your standards.
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@asdf said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
Boo! Typical Belgian excuse!
We can never split up ... who else are we going to hate?
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@PleegWat said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
@Luhmann said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
girl
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Younger then me and female ... girl it is
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@asdf said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
The problem in this case was that there is no proof that the driver was indeed reckless.
Driving on the sidewalk when pedestrians are on it is by definition reckless. Anyone who does it had better have a pretty convincing explanation of why driving on the street seemed worse at that particular moment.
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@anotherusername said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
Anyone who does it had better have a pretty convincing explanation of why driving on the street seemed worse at that particular moment.
With the road conditions in Quebec, that would not be hard to justify
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@Luhmann said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
@Lorne-Kates said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
Dig up, stupid.
I'm still waiting for the space elevator to reach this floor ... sometimes I wonder it would be faster to just take the stairs
In case of fire, don't take Space Elevator. Don't bother with the stairs either. You're fucked. And so is every living being along the equator.
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@asdf said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
@Luhmann said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
When a girl points this out he gets an ax out of his trunk and threatens her.
Did he lock her up in the cellar afterwards? Do they have children now? Don't leave us hanging!
Let's just say she's well stocked for hand lotion.
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@Luhmann said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
@Mikael_Svahnberg said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
I'm in area_can because noone told me I couldn't be.
you mean there isn't an area_can't
Stop it! That's @Groaner's job!
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@Rhywden said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
Manslaughter, by the way, is also unintentional by definition.
Nope. Manslaughter is killing someone "without malice aforethought." That is, without planning to do it ahead of time. Manslaughter may or may not be intentional, and in fact many jurisdictions differentiate between voluntary and involuntary manslaughter.
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@abarker said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
Manslaughter may or may not be intentional, and in fact many jurisdictions differentiate between voluntary and involuntary manslaughter.
Including Germany, where Rhywden is from, in case we haven't already established that his legal knowledge is a bit lacking.
We even distinguish involuntary manslaughter with intent to assault (Körperverletzung mit Todesfolge) from entirely involuntary manslaughter (fahrlässige Tötung). The case in the OP would be the latter, which is treated exactly like the mildest form of assault (there are 3 kinds) in our penal code: No minimum penalty, five years maximum and a monetary penalty is also possible.
Whether this makes sense is left open to debate, but a German judge most likely wouldn't have ruled differently in this case.
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@Gąska said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
Running over a pedestrian and killing them in process? $1000 and half year probation. @area_can what the fuck is wrong with you!?
But, justice is about reformation, not punishment.
$1000 should be enough to ensure an upright citizen does not make this mistake again.
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@xaade said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
But, justice is about reformation, not punishment.
$1000 should be enough to ensure an upright citizen does not make this mistake again.
The thing with monetary punishment is that it should be proportional to your salary.
A $1000 fine for someone that works at minimum wage is a lot.
Not so much when you make $250,000 a year.
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@TimeBandit said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
The thing with monetary punishment is that it should be proportional to your salary.
I don't know about Canada, but that's exactly how it's handled in Germany.
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@xaade said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
But, justice is about reformation, not punishment.
You're confusing justice with social justice.
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@TimeBandit said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
@xaade said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
But, justice is about reformation, not punishment.
$1000 should be enough to ensure an upright citizen does not make this mistake again.
The thing with monetary punishment is that it should be proportional to your salary.
A $1000 fine for someone that works at minimum wage is a lot.
Not so much when you make $250,000 a year.I've budgeted for the occasional "FUCK! Another charitable donation to the government."
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@Lorne-Kates Last time I tried building a space elevator, my turret shot a meteor in the distance, missed, and knocked the whole thing down on top of my base, causing every other player to fall into the planet and die, and lag intensely until I cleaned up the mess.
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@Magus said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
@Lorne-Kates Last time I tried building a space elevator, my turret shot a meteor in the distance, missed, and knocked the whole thing down on top of my base, causing every other player to fall into the planet and die, and lag intensely until I cleaned up the mess.
Damn, I need that DLC for pacman.
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@asdf said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
The reason why you need a license for practicing invasive medicine is because it touches another civil right: The right not to be physically harmed (Recht auf körperliche Unversehrtheit). That's why the law can restrict practicing medicine in the first place.
And that's also precisely the reason why you need a driver's license.
The problem is, you're conflating the right of free travel (legitimate universal human right) with the privilege of operating potentially-deadly heavy machinery in public spaces (not a universal human right and never should be!)
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@masonwheeler There's a huge difference: Doing something potentially dangerous vs doing something that definitely, always inflicts bodily harm (surgery). That's not the same.
Also, nice necro.
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@asdf said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
@masonwheeler There's a huge difference: Doing something potentially dangerous vs doing something that definitely, always inflicts bodily harm (surgery). That's not the same.
Also, nice necro.
So, why aren't we allowed to play with fireworks all year round?
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@Rhywden said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
So, why aren't we allowed to play with fireworks all year round?
You are if you have a license.
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@asdf said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
@Rhywden said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
So, why aren't we allowed to play with fireworks all year round?
You are if you have a license.
Ah, so it's a civil right!
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@Rhywden said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
Ah, so it's a civil right!
I'm not in the mood for your trolling.
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@asdf said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
@Rhywden said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
Ah, so it's a civil right!
I'm not in the mood for your trolling.
Only taking your logic to its ultimate conclusion.
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@Rhywden said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
Only taking your logic to its ultimate conclusion.
No. You still don't seem to understand my argument if you think that.
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@asdf said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
@Rhywden said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
Only taking your logic to its ultimate conclusion.
No. You still don't seem to understand my argument if you think that.
Oh, I understand it alright. It's just you who's using an overly broad definition of "freedom of movement". You include the type of movement. When in reality it only makes mention of that you are allowed to move anywhere. Not how.
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@asdf said in Canada's legendary politeness applies to killers as well:
Also, nice necro
He's got a long way to go before he beats @fbmac and becomes the new Necro King though