Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!
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As I'm sure most of you are aware, an industry has recently sprung up that promises $80-100k+ annual salary to graduates of coding bootcamps, as if an 18-week course is a substitute for a four-year university degree, or thousands of hours of on-the-job experience, or that more than a small percentage of the population has the talent to become a good programmer.
However, perhaps some of these institutions have wisened up and realized that it takes a lot more than a crash course to prepare and polish quality talent, so now, they offer the general public the bootcamp bootcamp!
https://www.appacademy.io/bootcamp-prep
It will be amusing if the admissions processes continue to develop to the point that students have to take years of bootcamps and gain actual years of experience before getting whatever credential is offered.
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@Groaner said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
It will be amusing if the admissions processes continue to develop to the point that students have to take years of bootcamps and gain actual years of experience before getting whatever credential is offered.
So, like college but that's not what the marketing teams want to call it?
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@Groaner said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
However, perhaps some of these institutions have wisened up and realized that it takes a lot more than a crash course to prepare and polish quality talent, so now, they offer the general public the bootcamp bootcamp!
More likely they realised that some substantial fraction of the drooling masses that come through their doors don't have the background / aren't even close to smart enough / whatever (delete as appropriate) to dive straight in to their bootcamps. It makes the bootcamps look bad if ten percent / half / three quarters / ninety percent (delete as appropriate) of the applicants drop out or fail.
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@Groaner said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
as if an 18-week course is a substitute for a four-year university degree
I got my start in programming with a 12 week full time course. Of course, after a year in my first job off the back of that I realised how little I knew before, but that's natural when you're new to a career.
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Sounds like it's the Trump University of coding bootcamps.
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@Sumireko except the owner doesn't run from presidency, so you can't get a free lawyer to run your lawsuit against them
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Gah! TRWTF are websites that "help" you scroll. So I end up going right past the thing I was reading.
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@boomzilla like Discourse and NodeBB?
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What bothers me is that these students are going to finish their "full-stack" 21-week programming course and not touch a single thing other than web and javascript because someone told them "it's the future".
Static typing? Relational databases? Nope, never heard of that.
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@anonymous234 said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
What bothers me is that these students are going to finish their "full-stack" 21-week programming course and not touch a single thing other than web and javascript because someone told them "it's the future".
But probably mostly because 21 weeks isn't that long to learn something and it's probably better to pick something than to flit around.
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@anonymous234 saying you can't do SPAs without using JS on the backend means you're a shit developer who can't problemsolve for shit. And you want me to attend your course? Yeah, riiiiight...
Also, GMail was around long before NodeJS was a thing, you dimwits!
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@boomzilla Surely they could have picked something that doesn't make it easy to write utterly unintelligible code with more bugs than a termite mound and more security holes than unpatched Windows XP?
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@RaceProUK It's a quick course. Why pick something that will be difficult for the students to write utterly unintelligible code with more bugs than a termite mound and more security holes than unpatched Windows XP?
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@LB_ said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
So, like college but that's not what the marketing teams want to call it?
More like an apprenticeship (which we really should bring back).
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@antiquarian said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
@LB_ said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
So, like college but that's not what the marketing teams want to call it?
More like an apprenticeship (which we really should bring back).
But apprenticeship takes years of practice besides the maser
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@dse said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
But apprenticeship takes years of practice besides the maser
That would explain some of the bad code we keep finding. All those microwaves, their brains are well past cooked by now.
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@boomzilla So we don't get another generation of coders who shit out code without thinking about it? :P
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@thegoryone said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
You're looking surprisingly optimistic
@thegoryone said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
and naive today!
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@anonymous234 said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
other than web and javascript because someone told them "it's the future"
If full-stack JavaScript is the future, we are doomed, DOOMED !!!
JavaScript Fatal Error: DOOMED is undefined
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@TimeBandit said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
JavaScript Fatal Error: DOOMED is undefined
E_INCORRECT_ERROR: VM15667:1 Uncaught ReferenceError: DOOMED is not defined(…)
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@TimeBandit Easy fix.
var DOOMED = undefined;
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
It makes the bootcamps look bad if ten percent / half / three quarters / ninety percent (delete as appropriate) of the applicants drop out or fail.
Especially when these institutions are charging around $20k.
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What if these bootcamps were anything like CodeBabes?
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@Arantor said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
What if these bootcamps were anything like CodeBabes?
Dude, where the hot chick? How am I supposed to write code without her?
Filed under: this post is sexist
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@boomzilla said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
@anonymous234 said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
What bothers me is that these students are going to finish their "full-stack" 21-week programming course and not touch a single thing other than web and javascript because someone told them "it's the future".
But probably mostly because 21 weeks isn't that long to learn something and it's probably better to pick something than to flit around.
Real World experience with delivered products is more educational than college, for the most part.
College is important for learning a broad range of stuff... Math, Science, data structures, etc...
The best bet is doing both... but not everyone has the time or money for a 4 year college education.
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@Arantor said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
CodeBabes
that is a thing?
Please tell me this is a joke.
Why did they have to go all FoodBabe squared?
Where is my SciBabe?
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@Karla said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
@Arantor said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
CodeBabes
that is a thing?
Please tell me this is a joke.
Why did they have to go all FoodBabe squared?
Where is my SciBabe?
It is, but I'm pretty sure it's actually quite limited, and only does HTML/CSS.
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@Karla it's not a joke, and was mocked mercilessly here when it first occurred.
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@Arantor said in Yo dawg, I heard you like coding bootcamps, so now we offer coding bootcamp prep courses so you can learn to code while you learn to code!:
@Karla it's not a joke, and was mocked mercilessly here when it first occurred.
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@TimeBandit said in the post above:
Did we already mercilessly mock this thing too?
If not, we should get to work...
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@TimeBandit Cold, no atmosphere, takes ages to get to...
Canada is perfect training for Mars