It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...
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@PJH I've just got to tell my Uncle Jack about that.
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@CarrieVS I'm sure he still has nightmares about the horse..
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Plot twist: This is the sole proprietor.
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@PJH 1st hand care.
I guess they have FOUR specialties.
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@anotherusername said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
This is the sole proprietor
He's a fishmonger as well?
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@No_1 you're in the right plaice for such comments.
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Took me a while to figure out the third thing. Then I realized, I should look at it while considering that no fucking one knows how to use apostrophes any more!
I know, I know, it's not a misuse HERE, but I'm getting god damned sick of this shit. ONE plural and ONE possessive form, there's only fucking ONE of each in English, and people can't handle it! I fear to think what would happen if people who can't handle that shit were given a proper language to deal with.
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@Onyx said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
Took me a while to figure out the third thing. Then I realized, I should look at it while considering that no fucking one knows how to use apostrophes any more!
I know, I know, it's not a misuse HERE, but I'm getting god damned sick of this shit. ONE plural and ONE possessive form, there's only fucking ONE of each in English, and people can't handle it! I fear to think what would happen if people who can't handle that shit were given a proper language to deal with.
They would forget how to use vowels.
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@Onyx said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
no one knows how to use apostrophes any more!
Apostrophes used in a non-standard manner to form noun plurals are known as greengrocers’ apostrophes or grocers’ apostrophes, often called (spelled) greengrocer’s apostrophes and grocer’s apostrophes. They are sometimes humorously called greengrocers apostrophe’s, rogue apostrophes, or idiot’s apostrophes (a literal translation of the German word Deppenapostroph, which criticises the misapplication of apostrophes in Denglisch). The practice, once common and acceptable (see Historical development), comes from the identical sound of the plural and possessive forms of most English nouns.
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@Lorne-Kates said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
@PJH 1st hand care.
I guess they have FOUR specialties.
That's a business upstairs:
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@Onyx said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
ONE plural and ONE possessive form, there's only fucking ONE of each in English
Except its. It's loses its apostrophe when it's in its possessive form.
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Ok, ok, you two found two exceptions. Friggin' whoop. Honestly, if those were the cases where the mistakes were most common I wouldn't moan. Hell, I was messing up the
its
thing for years myself. Then again, ESL, and I learned most of my English through Internet. I honestly have no idea how I managed to learn it as relatively well as I have given how badly written most of it is.Maybe I was just lucky to have learned most of it before Twatters, Fecesbooks and YooToobes where every dumbass can write whatever they want?
Filed under: We need a twitch reaction button so I can respond to PJH's trolls properly
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@Onyx said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
Ok, ok, you two found two exceptions.
Sorry - did you want more?
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@PJH what, that's it?
BitchCOMPLAIN, please, I can probably find more of them just using one or two words as an example.
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@PJH said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
It's loses its apostrophe when it's in its possessive form.
That's because apostrophes always mark places where something has been left out.
The apostrophe in a possessive form is actually standing in for part of the word
its
orhis
.The possessive form's apostrophe
is actually a contraction of the archaicthe possessive form its apostrophe
;Lorne Kates's dubious hobbies
likewise forLorne Kates his dubious hobbies
.The word
it's
is a contraction ofit is
orit has
depending on context. Applying it as a possessive would make it a contraction ofit its
which is redundant.When constructing the possessive form of a plural, the apostrophe marks the place where the entirety of
their
- being the plural form ofits
orhis
- has been elided:pendantic dickweeds' obsessions
is a contracted of form ofpendantic dickweeds their obsessions
.Their
doesn't end with ans
, so abbreviating it as's
as inpendantic dickweeds's
makes no sense.It's the shape of the word that's gone missing, not the one it's attached to, that determines whether to use an
s'
ors's
possessive suffix: this is whyLorne Kates's
is indeed the correct possessive form ofLorne Kates
, style guides be damned.The consequences of the fact that
her
also doesn't end with ans
are left as an exercise for the reader.
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@flabdablet said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
Lorne Kates his dubious hobbies
Temba, his arms wide?
Filed under: Shaka, when the walls fell
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@flabdablet said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
It's the shape of the word that's gone missing, not the one it's attached to, that determines whether to use an
s'
ors's
possessive suffix: this is whyLorne Kates's
is indeed the correct possessive form ofLorne Kates
, style guides be damned.Any style guide recommending that
Lorne Kates'
be the recommended form is either horribly wrong, or postulating that there's more than one Lorne Kates to be considered, which would be a deeply worrying thing (especially for the transhookers of Ontario…)
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@Onyx said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
Took me a while to figure out the third thing. Then I realized, I should look at it while considering that no fucking one knows how to use apostrophes any more!
I know, I know, it's not a misuse HERE, but I'm getting god damned sick of this shit. ONE plural and ONE possessive form, there's only fucking ONE of each in English, and people can't handle it! I fear to think what would happen if people who can't handle that shit were given a proper language to deal with.
It's almost as if English is inconsistent!
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@dkf said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
@flabdablet said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
It's the shape of the word that's gone missing, not the one it's attached to, that determines whether to use an
s'
ors's
possessive suffix: this is whyLorne Kates's
is indeed the correct possessive form ofLorne Kates
, style guides be damned.Any style guide recommending that
Lorne Kates'
be the recommended form is either horribly wrong, or postulating that there's more than one Lorne Kates to be considered, which would be a deeply worrying thing (especially for the transhookers of Ontario…)Wouldn't it be Lornes' Kates? Like attorneys general?
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@ben_lubar said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
Wouldn't it be Lornes' Kates? Like attorneys general?
:grumpycatno:
Get off our Lorne.
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@Onyx said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
Then I realized, I should look at it while considering that no fucking one know's how to use apostrophes any more!
FTFY.
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@PJH said in It's quite rare to find a shop that deals in all three...:
That's a business upstairs:
No, handjobs are down below.