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  • area_deu

    @Tsaukpaetra said in IoT...:

    @Akko said in IoT...:

    @tharpa said in IoT...:

    @dkf said in IoT...:

    @Adynathos said in IoT...:

    I know where the keys are, the shortcut mapping can be shown on the screen:
    0_1479692935847_blender-shortcuts.png

    That reminds me of the official reminder cards we used to have for use with Word Perfect. All functionality was done with function keys and assorted shift-like modifiers (Ctrl, Alt, etc.) I forget how far the chording went; I learned to use LaTeX rather than putting up with that horror.

    I thought WordPerfect was awesome, though I haven't used it for awhile. I was outraged when I sat down to a computer that didn't have the cards. The most awesome feature in WordPerfect, one that has yet to be duplicated since, was "Reveal Codes". Ctrl+F3, or something like that, as I recall.

    My dad swears on WordPerfect. Mostly because of exactly that function. Also because apparently it works on pretty much any version of Windows since like 95.

    @Tsaukpaetra said in IoT...:

    0_1484117595961_upload-04037b4a-217f-4159-a979-8da25941266c

    ???

    It's more than that. From what I understand, it shows all the formatting codes in a more LaTeX-y way. Hard to describe, but it shows you exactly where any formatting/layout/etc option is set, not just paragraphs or linebreaks.

    So something akin to View HTML Source then? (Not sure if that's still available, I can't imagine many would use it)

    Yeah similar to that, just that the opening and closing statements are displayed as small "blocks". Can be useful if you have like enumerations and tables and headlines all mixed-up and want to change the order or insert a paragraph or something.



  • @Tsaukpaetra said in IoT...:

    @tharpa said in IoT...:

    @dkf said in IoT...:

    @Adynathos said in IoT...:

    I know where the keys are, the shortcut mapping can be shown on the screen:
    0_1479692935847_blender-shortcuts.png

    That reminds me of the official reminder cards we used to have for use with Word Perfect. All functionality was done with function keys and assorted shift-like modifiers (Ctrl, Alt, etc.) I forget how far the chording went; I learned to use LaTeX rather than putting up with that horror.

    I thought WordPerfect was awesome, though I haven't used it for awhile. I was outraged when I sat down to a computer that didn't have the cards. The most awesome feature in WordPerfect, one that has yet to be duplicated since, was "Reveal Codes". Ctrl+F3, or something like that, as I recall.

    0_1484117595961_upload-04037b4a-217f-4159-a979-8da25941266c

    ???

    Yes, Word has that, but it's not as good as Reveal Codes was. Reveal Codes showed everything that could possibly be causing any problem you encountered.



  • @Tsaukpaetra said in IoT...:

    So something akin to View HTML Source then? (Not sure if that's still available, I can't imagine many would use it)

    Yes, it is akin to that. I must be whooshing, though. I use View HTML Source all the time, and I assume that the majority of people on WTDWTF do too.


  • sockdevs

    @tharpa A quick Google revealed (sic) this exists:
    0_1484143875531_upload-2c6a8ed0-9bb4-4577-b5c1-fe5c66adc00b
    Shift+F1


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @tharpa said in IoT...:

    I use View HTML Source all the time

    I use it quite a bit (though I usually find the DOM tree to be more informative now due to the amount of JS done by most pages). Also useful is being able to read the raw content of an email; spotting an attempted phish is easy when you can see the Received: headers.


  • Grade A Premium Asshole

    @bb36e said in IoT...:

    Telly station CW-6 said the blunder happened during a Thursday morning news package about a Texan six-year-old who racked up big charges while talking to an Echo gadget in her home. According to her parents' Amazon account, their daughter said: "Can you play dollhouse with me and get me a dollhouse?" Next thing they knew, a $160 KidKraft Sparkle Mansion dollhouse and four pounds of sugar cookies arrived on their doorstep.

    During that story's segment, a CW-6 news presenter remarked: "I love the little girl, saying 'Alexa ordered me a dollhouse'."

    That, apparently, was enough to set off Alexa-powered Echo boxes around San Diego on their own shopping sprees. The California station admitted plenty of viewers complained that the TV broadcast caused their voice-controlled personal assistants to try to place orders for dollhouses on Amazon.

    ...

    This is not the first time an ill-conceived TV spot has caused havoc with voice-control systems. In 2014, a Microsoft Xbox commercial featuring actor Aaron Paul demonstrating Kinect voice control was blamed for causing consoles across the US to spontaneously boot up and launch the game Titanfall every time the ad aired. ®

    My cousin's roommate has one of those things in their living room to play music and such. Every time I go over there I add stuff like drums of sex lube, or uranium ore to his Amazon shopping cart.



  • @tharpa said in IoT...:

    Yes, Word has that, but it's not as good as Reveal Codes was. Reveal Codes showed everything that could possibly be causing any problem you encountered.

    Word also has (had?) a mode to show things like insert current date, insert current page number, insert footnote, insert cross-reference, etc. as {code_string} blocks, but I don't remember off-hand how to invoke it, and I don't have Word on this machine to find it.


  • sockdevs

    @Polygeekery said in IoT...:

    Every time I go over there I add stuff like drums of sex lube, or uranium ore to his Amazon shopping cart.

    assholes like you are the reason why my Google Home has an expired credit card set as it's primary credit card for purchases and is not tied to any of my shopping accounts.

    you can have all the fun you want but at least you can't cost me money.



  • @HardwareGeek said in IoT...:

    @tharpa said in IoT...:

    Yes, Word has that, but it's not as good as Reveal Codes was. Reveal Codes showed everything that could possibly be causing any problem you encountered.

    Word also has (had?) a mode to show things like insert current date, insert current page number, insert footnote, insert cross-reference, etc. as {code_string} blocks, but I don't remember off-hand how to invoke it, and I don't have Word on this machine to find it.

    Insert, Quick Parts, Field.

    There are also other options in the Insert menu for quicker access to footnotes, page numbers, etc. -- that'll just get you the whole list.



  • @anotherusername said in IoT...:

    Insert, Quick Parts, Field.

    There's also a Show Field Codes (or something like that) toggle; I just don't remember where to find it.



  • @HardwareGeek already posted by @Tsaukpaetra, but it doesn't show all codes. It just shows the whitespace codes (space, line break, paragraph break, page break, section break...).


  • sockdevs

    @HardwareGeek said in IoT...:

    There's also a Show Field Codes (or something like that) toggle; I just don't remember where to find it.

    Found it:
    0_1484153432868_upload-511e0624-7b01-47b5-9ce2-06dc7e1e42fd

    @anotherusername



  • @RaceProUK that only works for the "field" codes -- fields which can be inserted, e.g. the current page number. It won't show you codes for, say, changing the font size, or changing the line or paragraph spacing.


  • sockdevs

    Is this closer to what you're looking for?

    @RaceProUK said in IoT...:

    0_1484143875531_upload-2c6a8ed0-9bb4-4577-b5c1-fe5c66adc00b

    Shift+F1

    Edit: @anotherusername because somehow this ended up as a reply to myself :facepalm:



  • @RaceProUK said in IoT...:

    Found it:

    Yes, that's what I was thinking of. ISTM it used to be easier to find.



  • @anotherusername said in IoT...:

    @RaceProUK that only works for the "field" codes -- fields which can be inserted, e.g. the current page number. It won't show you codes for, say, changing the font size, or changing the line or paragraph spacing.

    I'm not quite sure what anyone else is talking about, but that's exactly what I was thinking of.



  • @RaceProUK not really. That just shows the styles for the selection.

    HTML source was the closest thing to what "reveal codes" actually did. That one in the screenshot is more like calling getComputedStyle on a particular element in the page.


  • sockdevs

    @anotherusername I'm not sure Word has ever had what you're looking for, and I'm afraid I can't picture what it would be either.



  • @HardwareGeek said in IoT...:

    @anotherusername said in IoT...:

    @RaceProUK that only works for the "field" codes -- fields which can be inserted, e.g. the current page number. It won't show you codes for, say, changing the font size, or changing the line or paragraph spacing.

    I'm not quite sure what anyone else is talking about, but that's exactly what I was thinking of.

    @RaceProUK said in IoT...:

    I'm afraid I can't picture what it would be either.

    Reveal codes showed everything.

    Here's a really old screenshot from WordPerfect for DOS, with reveal codes turned on.

    0_1484161124636_upload-84ea9a11-b699-498a-b97b-b51fc4f84a6c

    Pretty much every version of WordPerfect has had the feature.

    0_1484161284784_upload-b2c4970d-9550-49eb-a7aa-a51f8ae1a808


  • sockdevs

    @anotherusername Ah, I see now. I've never seen that in Word, so I dunno what else to suggest really.


  • :belt_onion:



  • @dse

    Meyers denied the data breach in an interview with Network World. Meyers also said he saw our attempts to get comment, but he never reached back because "you don't respond to some random person about a data breach."


  • area_can

    In a car-crash video, uploaded to Twitter by Bryson Meunier, a Google Home is asked: “Okay Google, what’s my day like?” The chatbot answers the question by telling him the time, the weather and what his commute is like. So far, so good.

    But then, it sneakily adds: “By the way, disney’s live action Beauty and the Beast opens today.” Soft piano music is played, and the ad continues running.

    “For some more movie fun, ask me something about Belle. Have a good one,” it cheekily concludes, referring to the movie's character. Now, we're aware of the irony of complaining about ads spouted by a device, only to then offer to play the ad to you, but it's honestly so creepy and stupid, it'll make you reconsider the myth that Google hires only the smartest people on the planet.

    Google's response:

    This isn't an ad; the beauty in the Assistant is that it invites our partners to be our guest and share their tales


    I really can't see the appeal of these voice assistants. Computers are slow enough as is, I don't want to wait for them to tell me the info I'm looking for



  • @bb36e said in IoT...:

    This isn't an ad; the beauty in the Assistant is that it invites our partners to be our guest and share their tales

    That's like the disclaimers they put in "business opportunity" emails to try to convince you they're not spam.


  • area_pol

    @bb36e said in IoT...:

    In a car-crash video, uploaded to Twitter by Bryson Meunier, a Google Home is asked: “Okay Google, what’s my day like?”

    Angry customer crashes his car after talking to Google Home?



  • @anotherusername

    Those were the days. I used WordPerfect on a Zenith Minisport:

    Computing really was more fun then, including carrying round those little 2" floppy discs.



  • @bb36e said in IoT...:

    Google's response:

    This isn't an ad; the beauty in the Assistant is that it invites our partners to be our guest and share their tales

    Well played, Google.


  • Impossible Mission Players - A

    @Helix said in IoT...:

    MinisPort

    How small is that port?



  • @Tsaukpaetra said in IoT...:

    How small is that port?

    Depends on how cold it is



  • @bb36e I want one of these mosquito killer robots



  • @bb36e said in IoT...:

    I really can't see the appeal of these voice assistants. Computers are slow enough as is,

    I think people buy these things thinking it will be like strong IA, just to be disappointed. IMO it's snake oil.


  • mod

    @hungrier Other keywords include "beauty" and "tales"



  • @Yamikuronue
    Not tails?


  • sockdevs

    @Luhmann Hey! You leave twin-tailed kitsunes out of this! :P


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @fbmac said in IoT...:

    I want one of these mosquito killer robots

    I just need a mosquito-killing hammer.

    0_1489923093661_upload-d891fe1e-c5a5-4d35-9b7e-627c79a32fba

    I just catch the mosquito, put it on a small block, and then BANG! it is a dead mosquito.


  • sockdevs

    @dkf You'd be better off with a rubber mallet: the larger head surface area makes the mosquito easier to kill ;)


  • Impossible Mission - B

    @RaceProUK said in IoT...:

    the larger head surface area

    :giggity: ???


    Filed under: Am I doing it right?



  • @ben_lubar said in IoT...:

    @Onyx said in IoT...:

    LCARS

    The author was here last time it was posted:

    @LINGsCARS said in Apocalyptically Bad:

     Yooooo! So this is where all the wtf visitors to my site over the past couple of days spawn?

     How on EARTH can people be so daft as to suggest all text should be the same size and that there are "rules" that websites should stick to? How can people push the boundaries and make websites that people LIKE to visit if you don't experiment?

     Please can one of the boring-compliance officers point me to the O'Reilly car-leasing-website-design-rulebook I should stick to. Today I will be adding Mr T to my website. I await the horror and shock and awe. Hahahaha.


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