I can't find the post, but...



  • I'm trying to find a particular post so I can respond to it. However, I can't find it. It was one of CPound's idiotic rantings, but that's not what I wanted to discuss.

    CPound had said something to the effect that it was after 9/11 and people lost jobs...blah blah blah...and that he was starving and begging for any type of job. Someone on the forum, I think it was either CodeWhisperer or ammoQ, responded with a comment. He said something like "You must not have been skilled enough and that's why nobody hired you."

    That is a completely false and stupid thing to say. I was laid off of my job around that time and so were dozens of my colleagues and friends. We were all skilled and we could not find jobs. We were hurting pretty bad. Many of us tried getting fast food jobs but were turned down because we were over-qualified. I personally know of 12 people who completely left the tech industry (and never returned) because of the 9/11 fallout.

    So CodeWhisperer or ammoQ, whichever one of you said this...in my opinion you are the same person because you have totally similar views...I lost total respect for you when you made this comment. You could have been the most skilled person in the world and you wouldn't have gotten a job during that time. You were just fortunate to not be employed by a company that folded after 9/11.

    There. I just had to say that. It was burning in the back of my mind.
     



  • @newguy said:

    I'm trying to find a particular post so I can respond to it. However, I can't find it. It was one of CPound's idiotic rantings

    First of all, what did I do to you? Why the chip on your shoulder? You call my rantings "idiotic" and on another post you tell me to "shut up and go away"? I didn't realize I offended you so much. Not that I care...

    Secondly, you're awfully vocal for a "new" guy. I don't think you've earned the right to mouth off yet.

    Thirdly, I realize that you're (sort of) backing up my point about being jobless, but you were what, a COBOL programmer? I don't think anyone on the forum is going to give your argument any weight based on that fact alone. Think before you speak dude.

    Finally, how is your ninja friend doing? LOL 



  • @CPound said:

    First of all, what did I do to you? Why the chip on your shoulder? You call my rantings "idiotic" and on another post you tell me to "shut up and go away"? I didn't realize I offended you so much. Not that I care...

    No one on this forum likes you CPound. I've been following it long enough to read dozens of your tirades and they're all TIRED. Between you, CodeWhisperer, and ammoQ you make reading the WTF a painful experience. If I was a moderator I would delete all of your lame posts. 

    @CPound said:

    Secondly, you're awfully vocal for a "new" guy. I don't think you've earned the right to mouth off yet.

    Are you saying there's a certain quota to reach before you can comment? You are such a dork and everyone knows it. What a dumb thing to say.

    @CPound said:

    Thirdly, I realize that you're (sort of) backing up my point about being jobless, but you were what, a COBOL programmer? I don't think anyone on the forum is going to give your argument any weight based on that fact alone. Think before you speak dude.

     No, I was not backing up your point. A similar experience does not mean I am on YOUR side. And as far as the COBOL comment goes, I would like to use profanity but I will refrain. Suffice it to say that I am more qualified than you ever will be, ever can be, and could ever dream to be.

    @CPound said:

    Finally, how is your ninja friend doing? LOL

    If I could train him to beat your sorry ass I would. 



  • @newguy said:

    in my opinion you are the same person because you have totally similar views...I lost total respect for you when you made this comment. You could have been the most skilled person in the world and you wouldn't have gotten a job during that time. You were just fortunate to not be employed by a company that folded after 9/11.

    AmmoQ and I have come down on different sides of topics in the past, though, granted, I can't think of any right now.  I am pretty sure, however, that we are different people. 

    I think the comment that you are specifically referring to was an AmmoQ, but I'm not sure...I may have said something similar, though I wouldn't have put it that way.  I did work for a company that folded after 9/11, still didn't really have any problem finding work.  In fact, I've never had problems finding work, even when living in small college towns after the bubble burst.  I attribute that in part to the fact that I have worked hard to build a broad set of technologies, deep conceptual knowledge, and experience in a broad range of industries/types of development.  And if I don't already know something, my resume has plenty of evidence that I'll learn post haste.  

    CPound's resume -- at least based on what he has said here -- likely indicates a relatively shallow knowledge base, limited flexibility, and no real interest in learning more.  That sort of thing is going to kill you when you've got more supply than demand.   I don't really know anything about you, I can't say anything about your experience.  Perhaps you only had a few years experience and there were plenty of old-timers already filling the ranks, or you had a skillset that wasn't specifically in demand...I don't know.  Maybe you have 15 years experience and are a published expert in your field and you just got unlucky.  Feel free to fill us in if you like.

    -cw

     



  • @CodeWhisperer said:

    I did work for a company that folded after 9/11, still didn't really have any problem finding work.  In fact, I've never had problems finding work, even when living in small college towns after the bubble burst.  I attribute that in part to the fact that I have worked hard to build a broad set of technologies, deep conceptual knowledge, and experience in a broad range of industries/types of development.  And if I don't already know something, my resume has plenty of evidence that I'll learn post haste.

    Wow. Listen to you. Can we all just bask in your magnificence?

    You might want to tone down your braggadocio. It is a bit pompous.



  • Not to throw gasoline on the fire, but I believe the thread you are referring to is this one, Why I became a suit.  And I believe the response you are referring to was from CodeWisperer.  In my opinion, CodeWisperer's comment isn't quite as bad as what you remember as he was talking only about a specific interview and not on the whole.  I too thought it was closer to how you remembered it. 

    I can't say I blame CodeWisperer or any of the others for their comments either.  I almost blasted CPound with statements worse than what you quoted, but sensibility got the better of me.  Not that I care what CPound thinks or how others view me, I just find that ignoring asshats seems to do a better job of getting rid of them.

    In terms of the economy after the bubble and 9/11, I never had an issue finding a job - in fact I've been lucky that they were all career advancing.  My success is part skillset, part quality workmanship, part salemanship, but the majority of it is because of good networking.  All of my positions were obtained from networking and I've received several propositions from several previous coworkers including a former President/CFO and VP of Manufacturing.  I therefore always go out of my way to help my previous contacts either from giving them sales leads or hooking them up with reputable prospective employees, vendors, whatever.  You never know when you'll need them to return the favor.

     



  • @CPound said:

    You might want to tone down your braggadocio. It is a bit pompous.

    Yes, you're right, I really should feel bad -- about being employable, sought after, and thoughtful about how my career progresses -- and just keep it to myself.   How dare I?  I mean, really. 

    Yawn. 

    And, for some real bragadoccio, I offer up some lyrics from Monzy's "Kill Dash Nine" (Parental Advisory Warning)

    I guess I'll have to shut you down for good this time,
    Already tried a <FONT face="Courier New">SIGQUIT</FONT><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">, so now it's KILL DASH 9.
    You gotta learn when it's time for your thread to yield;
    It shoulda slept; instead you stepped and now your fate is sealed.
    I'll take your process off the run queue without even asking
    'Cause my flow is like reentrant and preemptive multitasking.
    Your sad rhymes are spinnin' like you're in a deadlock,
    You're like a synchronous sock that don't know when to block;
    So I pull out my keyboard and I pull out my glock,
    And I dismount your girl and I</FONT><FONT face="Courier New"> mount /proc</FONT><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">
    And I've got your fuckin </FONT><FONT face="Courier New">pid</FONT><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> and the bottom line
    Is that you best not front or else it's KILL DASH NINE.</FONT>

    <FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Now, really, was I that self-promoting? 

    </FONT>

    <FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">-cw</FONT>



  • I'm pretty sure that the actual comment you are refering to was in the Thread "This is the guy we hired..." ( here ) and the post was by me.  I stood by it then and I stand by it now.  I don't need to re-argue the case because cw already did.  All I have to say is that if you are as good as you say you are, you must have been unlucky.  There is also a good chance that you were inflexible in your skill set.  You might be the best FORTRAN developer in the world, but after your company went under noone wanted to hire you because you didn't know anything but FORTRAN.  (PS I'm just using an example here)



  • I think it all started with the salaries thread...


    Read it end-to-end and you'll see why people like CodeWhisperer and myself do not show much too much compassion with CPound when he is "starving and begging for any type of job".



  • @newguy said:

    So CodeWhisperer or ammoQ, whichever one of you said this...in my opinion you are the same person because you have totally similar views...

    lol If we aggree, it's most likely because we are both right.
     



  • @ammoQ said:

    @newguy said:

    So CodeWhisperer or ammoQ, whichever one of you said this...in my opinion you are the same person because you have totally similar views...

    lol If we aggree, it's most likely because we are both right.
     

     good one 🙂
     



  • @lpope187 said:

    In terms of the economy after the bubble and 9/11, I never had an issue finding a job - in fact I've been lucky that they were all career advancing.  My success is part skillset, part quality workmanship, part salemanship, but the majority of it is because of good networking.  All of my positions were obtained from networking
     

    I could go on like the rest of you about how skilled and employable I am, I'm just not that vain. My issue and that of my colleagues was the economy. People simply weren't hiring. I know for a fact that many of you in this forum are lying. You can lie to yourself that you were/are the greatest programmer and that after 9/11 when the whole country was full of fear they were still willing to hire YOU because YOU are so wonderful and great and spectacular...but you know you were jobless like the rest of us. Grow up.



  • @newguy said:

    .but you know you were jobless like the rest of us. Grow up.

    You should consider the fact that at least some programmers still had a job after 9/11. It's not like software development completely ceased between 2001 and 2005. It was tough to find a new job in that time, though.



  • @newguy said:

    People simply weren't hiring. I know for a fact that many of you in this forum are lying.

    Err...what?  I'm sorry you were out of work, but your experience was not universal.  

    -cw




  • I don't think you can just convince someone that they are lying and that they actually lost their job and that they almost starved to death.  You have to start out on a basis of facts when you want to be an effective salesman.  And I don't think anyone here is buying what your pitching.



  • @tster said:

    I don't think you can just convince someone that they are lying and that they actually lost their job and that they almost starved to death.  You have to start out on a basis of facts when you want to be an effective salesman.  And I don't think anyone here is buying what your pitching.

    The Triumvirate has spoken!

    All hail tster, ammoQ, and CodeWhisperer!

    Death to all those who contradict them! 



  • @newguy said:

    @tster said:

    I don't think you can just convince someone that they are lying and that they actually lost their job and that they almost starved to death.  You have to start out on a basis of facts when you want to be an effective salesman.  And I don't think anyone here is buying what your pitching.

    The Triumvirate has spoken!

    All hail tster, ammoQ, and CodeWhisperer!

    Death to all those who contradict them! 

    You sound like CPound. 



  • @ammoQ said:

    You sound like CPound. 

    He bolds like CPound as well.  Makes you think.

    But, let me see if I can summarize:

       1) Newguy says "like CPound, I couldn't find work after 9/11"
       2) CW says "I found work after 9/11"
       3) lpope says "I found work after 9/11"
       4) Newguy says "I know for a fact that some people here are lying"
       5) Ammoq says "Not everyone was out of work"
       6) CW says "Not everyone was out of work"
       7) tster says "Maybe you need some facts if you're going to 'know for a fact'"

    The obvious output of this is "AmmoQ, CW and Tster are bad people".

    Wow, maybe I was wrong on this whole "having a job" thing, now that I see the logic laid out so clearly and unambiguously.

    -cw



  • @CodeWhisperer said:

    @ammoQ said:

    You sound like CPound. 

    He bolds like CPound as well.  Makes you think.

    I sound like CPound. What an insult.

    But I bold like CPound? WTF?!?



  • @newguy said:

    @CodeWhisperer said:

    @ammoQ said:

    You sound like CPound. 

    He bolds like CPound as well.  Makes you think.

    I sound like CPound. What an insult.

    But I bold like CPound? WTF?!?

     

    @newguy said:

    <snip> not that vain. My issue and that of my colleagues was the economy. People simply weren't hiring. I know for a fact that many of you in this forum are lying. You can lie to yourself that <snip>

    @newguy said:

    <snip>...blah blah blah...and that he was starving and begging for any type of job. Someone on the forum, I think it was either CodeWhisperer or ammoQ, responded with a comment. He said something like "You must not <snip>

     



  • @newguy said:

    I
    could go on like the rest of you about how skilled and employable I
    am, I'm just not that vain. My issue and that of my colleagues was the economy. People simply weren't hiring. I know for a fact that many of you in this forum are lying.
    You can lie to yourself that you were/are the greatest programmer and
    that after 9/11 when the whole country was full of fear they were still
    willing to hire YOU because YOU are so wonderful and great and
    spectacular...but you know you were jobless like the rest of us. Grow
    up.

    The point of my post was not to degrade your experience during the post bubble / 9-11 time frame.  My intent was to offer insight as to why I didn't experience the same thing - that being I leveraged
    my contacts. 

    As far as thinking I'm the greatest programmer on Earth, I'm a decent programmer.  I know that most of the regulars around here can program circles around me any day of the week. 


     



  • Newguy,

     

    The reason you were out of a job after 9/11 might have something to do with how you successfully made everyone not like you in 11 posts.   



  • @tster said:

    Newguy,

     

    The reason you were out of a job after 9/11 might have something to do with how you successfully made everyone not like you in 11 posts.   

    Dudes, it's not that I don't like where this thread is going, but I still think it should end here, this post was slightly too far already. While I do like watching trainwrecks in progress, having to clean up the corpses afterhand is annoying.



  • I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked already



  • @Hitsuji said:

    I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked already

    Currently I see no reason to lock this thread. It's not completely pointless, it's not spam. Some people bash and get bashed... that's life.



  • @ammoQ said:

    @Hitsuji said:

    I'm surprised this thread hasn't been locked already

    Currently I see no reason to lock this thread. It's not completely pointless, it's not spam. Some people bash and get bashed... that's life.

    What's an example of something that would cause you to lock this thread? 😛



  • @CodeWhisperer said:

    @ammoQ said:

    You sound like CPound. 

    He bolds like CPound as well.  Makes you think.

    Let me see if I understand what you are implying...

    In my frustration at being consistently alienated in this forum I created an alias called "newguy". This "newguy" attacks me (CPound) to distance the alias from its originator as much as possible. That way, I (CPound) have a way of being respected when I post, since I'm not CPound, but rather an alias ("newguy"). How does this sound so far? This would explain the harsh anti-CPound sentiment coming from "newguy". Then everyone in the forum sides with "newguy" because he's not CPound, right? See, there's the forum camp and the CPound camp. You have to be in one or the other. The forum camp is led by CodeWhisperer and ammoQ. Everyone else is a "yes man" to CodeWhisperer and ammoQ.

    Is this what you're implying CW? That I created "newguy"? Sounds a bit far-fetched, don't you think?

    What I find more interesting and more plausible is that CodeWhisperer and ammoQ are the same person. Possibly tster as well, but I'm not so sure about that. Have you ever noticed how a CodeWhisperer post is invariably followed by an ammoQ post? And vice versa? And that they always tend to back each other up in arguments? The way they write is almost identical as well.

    Now that makes you think.



  • @CPound said:

    What I find more interesting and more plausible is that CodeWhisperer and ammoQ are the same person.

    Possibly tster as well, but I'm not so sure about that. Have you ever noticed how a CodeWhisperer post is invariably followed by an ammoQ post?

    LOL.  AmmoQ has something like 2000 more posts than I do; I think, statistically speaking, an AmmoQ post is likely to follow or proceed pretty much anyone's post.  

    But, let's see, you think it's plausible that I signed on as AmmoQ in April 2005, posted for almost a year before -- for no particular reason -- also signing up as CW and then 2 months later as Tster...then embarked on a year long effort to post systematically as all three -- becoming a moderator along the way in one case.... and we did this just to...what...beat up on you at some point in time in the future?

    -(the real) cw



  • @CPound said:

    Is this what you're implying CW? That I created "newguy"? Sounds a bit far-fetched, don't you think?

    I don't think its too far fetched, because it's standard troll behavior, and in my opinion you seem like a troll.  You seem to purposely post controversial threads to get reactions out of people and try to bait people into arguments.



  • @burnmp3s said:

    @CPound said:

    Is this what you're implying CW? That I created "newguy"? Sounds a bit far-fetched, don't you think?

    I don't think its too far fetched, because it's standard troll behavior, and in my opinion you seem like a troll.  You seem to purposely post controversial threads to get reactions out of people and try to bait people into arguments.

    I'd say he's not the typical troll, or has previously successfully been masking his intentions; rather earlier he posted quite frank and personally naked threads but was flakked and shot down brutally, took it very personally, and turned into a troll by the bitterness if the experience, though I originally think it might have been to statute an example, though it went wrong.

    In my experience Da Interweb has become a seething cauldron of berating and/or bullying waiting to happen and it is best not to expose too much or you'll get burned.



  • @CPound said:

    What I find more interesting and more plausible is that CodeWhisperer and ammoQ are the same person. Possibly tster as well, but I'm not so sure about that. Have you ever noticed how a CodeWhisperer post is invariably followed by an ammoQ post? And vice versa? And that they always tend to back each other up in arguments? The way they write is almost identical as well.

    I take this as a compliment. It means my English is not broken enough to be easily distinguishable from a native speaker's English.

     
    CW-Redmond--------------------------------------------------------------------------------lots of water-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Vienna-ammoQ
     



  • @Mikademus said:

    In my experience Da Interweb has become a seething cauldron of berating and/or bullying waiting to happen and it is best not to expose too much or you'll get burned.

    I won't dispute your experience, and having gone through a time in my life where I and my family were pretty much going hungry, I truly sympathize with his earlier plight -- and that of the newguy as well -- but you really should go back and read a few of the threads (The 'Salaries' one in particular) for a bit of history.  I think you're going to have to agree that nothing that CPound has said is going to make anyone think "Wow, who would have passed on such a prime candidate?"  And that he blames the interviewers doesn't really bolster his position any.

    If someone comes to a website dedicated to WTFs in software/IT, and then starts to flap his gums about how things like "good design" are unimportant, about how customers are just there to be lied to, and how he plans to fake his way into higher paying jobs... and then starts complaining when he isn't universally well-regarded...well, that's kind of a "Duh" moment right there.   And if in the intervening months he makes no apparent attempt to change, just keeps digging himself deeper and deeper -- finally getting to the point of posting nonsense threads pretty much designed just to provoke...well, I'm not exactly sure what he thought was going to happen differently.

    Doctor, Doctor, it hurts when I post like this!

    Then don't post like that.

    -cw



  • @CPound said:

    @CodeWhisperer said:

    @ammoQ said:

    You sound like CPound. 

    He bolds like CPound as well.  Makes you think.

     See, there's the forum camp and the CPound camp.

    In this case there is the "Gets a joke" camp and the "doesn't get a joke" camp. 



  • @CPound said:

    there's the forum camp and the CPound camp.

     You've put far too much stock in the Army recruiting ads. There really is no such thing as an army of one, even if he's a ninja.



  • @CodeWhisperer said:

    @Mikademus said:

    In my experience
    Da Interweb has become a seething cauldron of berating and/or bullying
    waiting to happen and it is best not to expose too much or you'll get
    burned.

    ...you really should go back and read a few of the threads (The 'Salaries' one in particular) for a bit of history.  I think you're going to have to agree that nothing that CPound has said is going to make anyone think "Wow, who would have passed on such a prime candidate?"  And that he blames the interviewers doesn't really bolster his position any.

    If someone comes to a website dedicated to WTFs in software/IT, and then starts to flap his gums about how things like "good design" are unimportant, about how customers are just there to be lied to, and how he plans to fake his way into higher paying jobs... and then starts complaining when he isn't universally well-regarded...well, that's kind of a "Duh" moment right there.   And if in the intervening months he makes no apparent attempt to change, just keeps digging himself deeper and deeper -- finally getting to the point of posting nonsense threads pretty much designed just to provoke...well, I'm not exactly sure what he thought was going to happen differently.

    Oh, I didn't make a jab at you, and I'm certainly not defending CPound. I thought his "suit" thread quite interesting and I tried to see both sides there, but that one and another (related) are principally my entire experience of him, so I might overstate the case of him changing in response to the descending firestorm, in any way, from the latest posts he's turned quite nasty and there's really no excuse for that on the relatively professional board that this is.

    What I did was to proclaim a general observation about the state of the 'net and what it's solidifying into - a hateful place where bullying and mob mentality is becomiong the norm. The net, with it's perceived anonymity and semantically impoverished text-only communication elicits from man the worst combination of imagination, prejudices and misunderstanding. I did not try to implicate anyone here and I should have been more clear about that.



  • @CPound said:

    @CodeWhisperer said:
    He bolds like CPound as well.  Makes you think.

    Let me see if I understand what you are implying...

     I think he was merely complementing the stunning visual presentation, coherent thoughts, rational arguments and overall just utterly enjoyable contribution to this message board. It is rather remarkably similar, in a way that just really makes one appreciate pain killers.

     
    🙂     
     



  • @newguy said:

    People simply weren't hiring. I know for a fact that many of you in this forum are lying.

     

    Just because they weren't hiring doesn't mean they also fired every single programmer on earth. Simply because you were fired, and not skilled enough to beat the very intense competition also doesn't show anything flattering about yourself.

     

    Seriously, it takes all of a minute to see the common sense answer to the ridiculous "I was fired after 9/11, everyone else must have been too!" statement.

     

    -Syn
     



  • @CPound said:

    See, there's the forum camp and the CPound camp. You have to be in one or the other. The forum camp is led by CodeWhisperer and ammoQ. Everyone else is a "yes man" to CodeWhisperer and ammoQ.

    No one has tackled this comment that I made. I wonder why...



  • @CPound said:

    @CPound said:

    See, there's the forum camp and the CPound camp. You have to be in one or the other. The forum camp is led by CodeWhisperer and ammoQ. Everyone else is a "yes man" to CodeWhisperer and ammoQ.

    No one has tackled this comment that I made. I wonder why...

    two people responded to that quote already (myself included). 

     

    EDIT: If you are referring to the second part of the quote it's probably because you're trolling and most people know not to feed trolls.



  • @CPound said:

    @CPound said:

    See, there's the forum camp and the CPound camp. You have to be in one or the other. The forum camp is led by CodeWhisperer and ammoQ. Everyone else is a "yes man" to CodeWhisperer and ammoQ.

    No one has tackled this comment that I made. I wonder why...

    I guess it's because most people prefer to stay away from the paranoid.

    BTW, I'm rather pro-Oracle, not all people in this forum aggree.



  • @CPound said:

    @CPound said:

    See, there's the forum camp and the CPound camp. You have to be in one or the other. The forum camp is led by CodeWhisperer and ammoQ. Everyone else is a "yes man" to CodeWhisperer and ammoQ.

    No one has tackled this comment that I made. I wonder why...

     

    Probably because it's entirely irrelevant to the actual forum. Your view may seem entirely plausible to you, but it's simply that, your view. I don't see what's so mystifying about people agreeing with reasoned and experienced people who obviously have a vast and established knowledge. What you consider as some obscure conspiracy, against you and other (supremely rare) like minded individuals, is nothing more then smoke and shadows of your own making.

    You can't seriously think that with your idiosyncratic rantings, that have little to no base in reality or rational thought, that people are going to miraculously cluster into your self imposed and very much so depraved 'camp'. The alienation you receive is directly related to the absurd nature with which you present yourself. If your hoping the world to become a bizarre maze of idiot children that will hoist you from your slaved dungeon you have a long wait my friend.

     

    -Syn 



  • @CPound said:

    See, there's the forum camp and the CPound camp. You have to be in one or the other. ... Everyone else is a "yes man" to CodeWhisperer and ammoQ.

    So...either they agree with you, or they are yes-men?   That's rather arrogant, don't you think?

    -cw



  • uh oh.  We've all posted within 15 minutes of each other...   Indisputable proof this is!



  • @tster said:

    uh oh.  We've all posted within 15 minutes of each other...   Indisputable proof this is!

    fixed that for you



  • I think it's time we had a new forum, i propose the "crazy CPound rants" forum where all threads by and about CPound can be posted.  It seems like the majority of postings on wtf lately are directly related to CPound and i think he deserves his own forum as a lasting monument to his "brilliance" and the wonderful intellectual and social insights he has kindly decided to bestow upon us in the last few weeks.

    P.S. newguy, telling people they are liars when you clearly have no evidence to back it up, to use a cliche, "that's the real wtf"



  • @newguy said:

    CPound had said something to the effect that it was after 9/11 and people lost jobs...blah blah blah...and that he was starving and begging for any type of job.

    After reading CPound's posts, i noticed he has some very strange beliefs that most people would find annoying at best and offensive at worst, quite frankly he seems like he would be annoying to work with.  I can see exactly why he lost his job, it's probably because he is annoying, so that as soon as things get a bit tight he is the first to go and the last to be re-hired.  I could be wrong maybe he is nice in real life but if he acts the way he posts then i'm surprised he even has a job now. 

    If i had to guess i'd say that's the reason CPound has employment problems when the crunch hits is to do with short comings on his part, technically and social skills wise.  obviously all i have to go on for this is CPound's previous posts but i think they speak for themselves.

    NewGuy,

    I hope you were not having difficulty for the same reasons as CPound and were just unlucky, although i think you're assumptions that everyone else was in the same boat is erroneous and slightly arrogant.
     



  • I'm of no camp, personally, and i think that newguy is different from CPound. i also think newguy is a LOT younger than CPound.

    as for the "yes men" thing, I have no doubts that ammoQ and CW see me as a novice programmer that doesn't have much to offer here. However, If i were to pick a camp, it would be on the "moderator" side, rather than the "goddamn are you a troll or what" side.

    i'll admit, sometimes i troll inadvertently, because i am not used to "forums" as a communications medium and all, but still... If i ever get lambasted as bad as CPound, i'd just stop posting. I'd go find some other forum to make home. i don't even know what happened to make CPound post the way he does, but i am sure he doesn't mean to come off like he does. That's how much faith i have in fellow humans. I sympathize with CPound, and that's why i usually disagree with him anecdotally.

    I also don't mind poking fun at someone if i think they can take it.

    Vienna must be real exciting.

    PS i am moving to washington this saturday! i'll post in general about it later!

    another note... this post made no sense, ignore it.

     



  • @GeneWitch said:

    If i ever get lambasted as bad as CPound, i'd just stop posting. I'd go find some other forum to make home.

    I don't think it'd be a good attitude actually, stopping posting for some time while you try to understand why you were lambasted in the first place, and how people interact in the forum, is a good idea. But then you should get back to the forum and try out your newfound knowledge, your changed behaviour.

    You may have a hard time overcoming your "trollstamp" or whatever from your previous postings, but it's even more rewarding when you manage it and get accepted as a "regular" (or even "interesting" or "outstanding") member of a community.

    Which doesn't mean that you can't visit other forums/communities of course 😉

    @GeneWitch said:
    i'll admit, sometimes i troll inadvertently, because i am not used to "forums" as a communications medium

    Which is not much of an issue, as long as "correct" behaviour is learned and interned (see Usenet's pre-1993 Septembers). Everyone had to learn how to behave at one point, the difference lies between those that did, and those that didn't.



  • > Everyone else is a "yes man" to CodeWhisperer and ammoQ.

    I personally hate the bastard pricks, see. Always being better programmers than me etc. Feh.
     



  • @GeneWitch said:

    PS i am moving to washington this saturday! i'll post in general about it later!

    Cool, always room for another 🙂   Whereabouts are you moving to/working?

    -cw


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