Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists
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(Reposting this here from IRC on @r10pez10's behalf)
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I'm not sure which is a worse idea: the Pavlok, or the hysterical 1984-scaremongering tone the article uses. What? Lol. Probably in a year nobody will remember this existed, like every other fad.
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@Yamikuronue said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
Probably in a year nobody will remember this existed, like every other fad.
Until someone here necro's the thread, of course.
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@pydsigner Nah, that would have to be around 10 years.
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It's the next big #productivity #lifehack that's making the rounds in the valley! after prescription drug abuse
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@Yamikuronue said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
I'm not sure which is a worse idea: the Pavlok, or the hysterical 1984-scaremongering tone the article uses. What? Lol. Probably in a year nobody will remember this existed, like every other fad.
It's a comedy site that showcases one terrible or stupid thing for sale a day.
They could have called the daily WTF but that was taken by some dumb tech blog.
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@pydsigner Looks like a complicator's-gloves version of the old rubber band around the wrist. Is there more to it than that?
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@Yamikuronue said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
I'm not sure which is a worse idea: the Pavlok, or the hysterical 1984-scaremongering tone the article uses. What? Lol. Probably in a year nobody will remember this existed, like every other fad.
you know what's worse than any of that?
trying to read that article on a 1440P monitor.
the article forces a 600 pixel width...... on a monitor with just shy of 2600 horizontal pixels!
what is this? 1998 when you were rolling in cash to have 1024x768 screen resolution and most plebs barely had 800x600?!
:cane: you darn kids! gerrof my :lawn:
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@accalia said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
what is this? 1998 when you were rolling in cash to have 1024x768 screen resolution and most plebs barely had 800x600?!
I had more than that in 1998, but it cost a fortune and needed a specially strengthened desk. The big CRTs were beasts…
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@dkf said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
I had more than that in 1998
I didn't, but I did get 1600x1200 on a 15.4" Dell laptop in 2000, which wasn't too shabby.
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@flabdablet said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
I didn't, but I did get 1600x1200 on a 15.4" Dell laptop in 2000, which wasn't too shabby.
Stuff was changing pretty fast at that point. The 2k monitor that I had in 98 was obsolete by then, and graphics hardware was far more able to drive things at that scale.
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@dkf said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
The 2k monitor that I had in 98 was obsolete by then
I've got an LG Flatron EZ T910B CRT on a computer in the bedroom, running 1600x1200@75Hz.
It really is a beast - weighs in at over 20kg. Picked it up for nothing when a friend was about to chuck it out. It's actually capable of 2048x1536@60Hz but I don't like 60Hz CRT flicker.
It's getting a bit old and tired now; brightness is down a bit, and vertical deflection occasionally loses its mind and needs a scientific slap upside the head to make it work properly again, so I'll probably replace it with a 1920x1200 24" Dell panel some time soon. But it's been a really nice screen to work with; the contrast ratio and color accuracy of a decent CRT really is hard to beat.
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@accalia said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
trying to read that article on a 1440P monitor.
the article forces a 600 pixel widthTry the browser's zoom function
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@Adynathos said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
Try the browser's zoom function
And make your browser window 3px wider
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Yes bla bla dystopia corporate surveillance and all that.
But for its intended use - that is, to use it on yourself to control the parts of the brain you can't usually control - I see no problem.
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@dkf said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
@accalia said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
what is this? 1998 when you were rolling in cash to have 1024x768 screen resolution and most plebs barely had 800x600?!
I had more than that in 1998, but it cost a fortune and needed a specially strengthened desk. The big CRTs were beasts…
I think my 1600x1200@72 17" CRT is still sitting in a closet somewhere... Definite beast...
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Put it on your wrist, pull it back as far as it can go, and then let it go.
Cheap, easy, and doesn't rely on expensive crap.
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@Sumireko said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
Put it on your wrist, pull it back as far as it can go, and then let it go.
Cheap, easy, and doesn't rely on expensive crap.
But then you can't have an app trigger it :(
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@pydsigner said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
But then you can't have an app trigger it :(
Hey! Put a trigger warning on talk about apps like that!
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@pydsigner said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
@Sumireko said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
Put it on your wrist, pull it back as far as it can go, and then let it go.
Cheap, easy, and doesn't rely on expensive crap.
But then you can't have an app trigger it :(
Sure you can - but it needs to run on someone else's machine. Then they come over and snap it.
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@pydsigner said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
@Sumireko said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
Put it on your wrist, pull it back as far as it can go, and then let it go.
Cheap, easy, and doesn't rely on expensive crap.
But then you can't have an app trigger it :(
You don't need to have an app trigger it. The Pavlovian programmed response works just as well when you're triggering it yourself, as long as you're consistent about triggering it.
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@dkf said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
The big CRTs were beasts…
When I was in college, and before I got a laptop, I used to carry back and forth from my folks' house a 21" CRT every weekend. Fun times.
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@Zecc said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
@dkf said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
The big CRTs were beasts…
When I was in college, and before I got a laptop, I used to carry back and forth from my folks' house a 21" CRT every weekend. Fun times.
It's called Weight Training for Wimps. (oops: I meant Weight Training for CS Students)
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@flabdablet said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
@dcon said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
Weight Training for Wimps
Do you even CRT, bro?
Have you tried carrying a modern flatscreen TV alone?
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@anotherusername said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
You don't need to have an app trigger it. The Pavlovian programmed response works just as well when you're triggering it yourself, as long as you're consistent about triggering it.
you're not thinking webscale though
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@flabdablet said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
@dcon said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
Weight Training for Wimps
Do you even CRT, bro?
Yup! That was as a this-is-the-only-weight-training-CS-students-do :)
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@PleegWat said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
Have you tried carrying a modern flatscreen TV alone?
I have. If you're smart about it (ie. carrying it in a cardboard flatscreen TV box with a handle on it) it's not difficult at all.
If not... meh. It's still really not all that difficult.
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@anotherusername said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
@pydsigner said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
@Sumireko said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
Put it on your wrist, pull it back as far as it can go, and then let it go.
Cheap, easy, and doesn't rely on expensive crap.
But then you can't have an app trigger it :(
You don't need to have an app trigger it. The Pavlovian programmed response works just as well when you're triggering it yourself, as long as you're consistent about triggering it.
But how can you be consistent about triggering it without first conditioning yourself to trigger it?
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@Maciejasjmj Rubber band on the other wrist, duh.
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@dcon said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
Definite beast...
It took three people to lift that display back in 1998, and these were people who have no problem moving around an empty full-height filing cabinet on their own. I do remember that it was also the absolute top of the line monitor from Sun at that time.
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@PleegWat said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
@flabdablet said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
@dcon said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
Weight Training for Wimps
Do you even CRT, bro?
Have you tried carrying a modern flatscreen TV alone?
Remember the time when "flat screen" TVs were as thick as the diameter of a CD?
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@aliceif The unwieldiness has definitely migrated from weight to sheer diagonal over time.
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@aliceif
Seems to be a little less in my case actually.
It's close though!
Filed under: It's the early 2000s again!
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@aliceif You don't have an 80mm Mini-CD to compare it with, do you?
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@Zecc I think the gamecube used dvds that size?
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@aliceif said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
Remember the time when "flat screen" TVs were as thick as the diameter of a CD?
My first "flat screen" TV (34") weighed 400 pounds. (flat screen CRT)
I still have one of those thick flat screens - it actually works really nice - just need to find it a new home... (the nice thing about it was it had decent sound. The new thin flat screen's sound was so bad I had to buy a sound bar - the internal speakers were obviously never meant to be used)
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@dcon said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
The new thin flat screen's sound was so bad I had to buy a sound bar
Having it hooked up to the stereo is even better ...
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@aliceif said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
Having it hooked up to the stereo is even better ...
Well, yeah. The one in the living room is like that. The sound bar is for the bedroom!
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@dcon said in Pavlok: Pavlov for Masochists:
My first "flat screen" TV (34") weighed 400 pounds. (flat screen CRT)
I find it amusing that curved screens are the new big thing. At least they curve the other way now