McAfee is still on my shit list.



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    @anotherusername said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

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    there is no reason for that piece of shit to ever not be on your shit list.



  • @accalia oh, I know. Believe me, if I had my choice I'd nuke it from orbit and use Windows Defender.


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    I mean, even John McAfee calls it a turd...



    1. Doesn't show up with that search in the Start Menu because "McAfee" is not part of the shortcut name; would have found it with "VirusScan" [Console], as you can see in the title bar of your screenshot 3(a?). (You could also right-click the notification area icon and Manage Features | VirusScan Enterprise.)

    2. Your screenshot 3 shows that AutoUpdate was still running and thus it hadn't reported the new definition versions to Security Center yet.

    So did this not go away in about 10-15m, making it a non-issue?

    1. I like the frowny face though.


  • @heterodox said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    Doesn't show up with that search in the Start Menu because "McAfee" is not part of the shortcut name

    The error message said that I should use the "McAfee VirusScan Enterprise" program. The least they could've done was report to Windows the correct name that I'd find. Anyway it was a last resort, as shown by the numbers.

    You could also right-click the notification area icon and Manage Features | VirusScan Enterprise.

    I did try that before I tried searching. The VirusScan Console is shown lower-center.

    Your screenshot 3 shows that AutoUpdate was still running and thus it hadn't reported the new definition versions to Security Center yet.

    I didn't want to use multiple screenshots to prove the point. Rest assured that a moment before I clicked the button to start the AutoUpdate task, it read "The Update succeed...". Also note that the last run time is "Tuesday, September..." (i.e., today). I also ran it last Friday; it didn't help then, either, and Windows still said it was out-of-date today. In fact... here's the entries from the update log for each time it updated in the last week. The redacted username is when I ran the task manually.

    8/30/2016	5:37:19 PM	NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM	Update Finished
    8/31/2016	7:35:06 AM	█████████████████	Update Finished
    8/31/2016	5:40:09 PM	NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM	Update Finished
    9/1/2016	5:17:12 PM	NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM	Update Finished
    9/2/2016	5:59:20 PM	NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM	Update Finished
    9/3/2016	5:40:16 PM	NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM	Update Finished
    9/4/2016	5:34:12 PM	NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM	Update Finished
    9/5/2016	5:40:22 PM	NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM	Update Finished
    9/6/2016	7:31:49 AM	█████████████████	Update Finished
    9/6/2016	8:26:54 AM	█████████████████	Update Finished
    9/6/2016	8:28:25 AM	█████████████████	Update Finished
    


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  • Fair enough. shrug Still like the frowny face.

    I think recent patches may have bollixed up Security Center integration a bit. I've never gotten any of those issues with VirusScan Enterprise, but Security Center likes to tell me that neither Windows Defender nor McAfee HIPS are running when I know HIPS is running.

    Sometimes it's worth clicking "Fix it" just to make it go away.



  • John McAfee is a neverending producer of :wtf:



  • @heterodox said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    Sometimes it's worth clicking "Fix it" just to make it go away.

    The :-( was actually supposed to refer to "Update now" being greyed out. But if you're referring to "Turn off messages about virus protection", that does make Windows happy but doesn't really help my original issue, which was a bit too involved to bother explaining...

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    Although it looks like accessing the address book is what's triggering the popup. Maybe I can rewrite my script to avoid triggering it?

    edit: also, "no antivirus was found" :wtf:

    edit2: nope, it's lying. Just Set Msg = Inbox.Items(1) : MsgBox Msg.Body triggers it, even though that isn't "address book and e-mail address information". And I really need the script to check the Msg.Sender attribute anyway...



  • @anotherusername Sheesh. Blakey's gone for a couple of weeks and people just can't help themselves but try to help people in the sidebar!



  • @anotherusername said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    The :-( was actually supposed to refer to "Update now" being greyed out. But if you're referring to "Turn off messages about virus protection", that does make Windows happy but doesn't really help my original issue, which was a bit too involved to bother explaining...

    Sorry, noticed the :-( but didn't notice that "Update now" was greyed out. Newer versions should have better integration than that, though; if I get a message that HIPS is not enabled, I can enable it right from the notification. Might be a combination of OS and patch level though; you never know with McAfee.

    edit2: nope, it's lying. Just Set Msg = Inbox.Items(1) : MsgBox Msg.Body triggers it, even though that isn't "address book and e-mail address information". And I really need the script to check the Msg.Sender attribute anyway...

    In one of the environments in which I work, I don't even have access to the Sender property from my PowerShell scripts using MAPI and I can't figure out why.



  • @heterodox said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    @anotherusername said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    The :-( was actually supposed to refer to "Update now" being greyed out. But if you're referring to "Turn off messages about virus protection", that does make Windows happy but doesn't really help my original issue, which was a bit too involved to bother explaining...

    Sorry, noticed the :-( but didn't notice that "Update now" was greyed out. Newer versions should have better integration than that, though; if I get a message that HIPS is not enabled, I can enable it right from the notification. Might be a combination of OS and patch level though; you never know with McAfee.

    Yeah, I feel like that button should be enabled, but I'm more inclined to blame McAfee than Windows for the failure to integrate it.



  • @heterodox said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    @anotherusername said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    edit2: nope, it's lying. Just Set Msg = Inbox.Items(1) : MsgBox Msg.Body triggers it, even though that isn't "address book and e-mail address information". And I really need the script to check the Msg.Sender attribute anyway...

    In one of the environments in which I work, I don't even have access to the Sender property from my PowerShell scripts using MAPI and I can't figure out why.

    I'll just leave this here...

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  • @anotherusername said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    Yeah, I feel like that button should be enabled, but I'm more inclined to blame McAfee than Windows for the failure to integrate it.

    Yes indeed, McAfee is solely responsible for using the Security Center API properly; if my reply seemed to imply otherwise, that's not what I meant.

    I might poke my machine at home this evening (since I actually have some limited managerial capabilities over the McAfee installation on it) and see if it's enabled for me. I wonder if they might have hooked properly into Windows 10 and broken Windows 7 somehow.

    Edit: Or Windows 8, more likely.



  • @anotherusername said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

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    I wonder if I might be able to access the Sender property if I use a macro from within Outlook instead of using interop from PowerShell. Hmmm...


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    McAfee locked my both of my grandparents' mobile phones when they left the state on an extended road trip, and I got a call from some hotel clerk's personal phone from them saying they needed me to drive to their house and try to fix it from their home computer linked to the McAfee account.



  • @heterodox if you're only interested in particular senders, you could create an Outlook search folder that finds the messages, and then your script can just look in that folder... I've done that too.

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  • @Fox said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    McAfee locked my both of my grandparents' mobile phones

    Wat? How is that even possible? Why would a computer antivirus program be doing anything to phones? TDEMSMIR.


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    @HardwareGeek They have a mobile antivirus app, too, and when they left the state McAfee thought the phones were stolen and locked them.



  • @Fox said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    mobile antivirus app

    Ah, that's reasonable.
    @Fox said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    McAfee

    Bad choice.


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    @HardwareGeek said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    @Fox said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    mobile antivirus app

    Ah, that's reasonable.
    @Fox said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    McAfee

    Bad choice.

    Quite.



  • @Fox said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    McAfee locked my both of my grandparents' mobile phones when they left the state on an extended road trip, and I got a call from some hotel clerk's personal phone from them saying they needed me to drive to their house and try to fix it from their home computer linked to the McAfee account.

    Fixed.



  • @dcon said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    Fixed.

    It's the only way to be sure.



  • @dcon Could you have found a bigger version? ;)



  • @Fox said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    McAfee locked my both of my grandparents' mobile phones when they left the state on an extended road trip, and I got a call from some hotel clerk's personal phone from them saying they needed me to drive to their house and try to fix it from their home computer linked to the McAfee account.

    I read that as John McAfee personally taking the phones off your grandparents and locking them. It's much more awesome that way, and not even particularly surprising, coming from him.



  • @coldandtired said in McAfee is still on my shit list.:

    @dcon Could you have found a bigger version? ;)

    Probably :)



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