How much of a WTF is this?



  • I have started a new job a month ago. I was assigned to a project where we work on a hybrid mobile application.

    The UI is built on Angular (version 1; we are building on existing code). Sounds normal so far, right?

    It also uses jquery.



  • @Bulb it's pretty common, I'd say. Especially if you use one of the million well tested powerful widgets based on jQuery.



  • @cartman82 I've come across a few Angular sites using jQueryUI widgets, doesn't seem that uncommon to me either even from my viewpoint in back-end.



  • Unrelated, but TIL jQuery proudly shows neobux as a corporate sponsor.



  • @JazzyJosh What's that, some kind of crypto currency by Neopets?


  • Dupa

    @Magus said in How much of a WTF is this?:

    @JazzyJosh What's that, some kind of crypto currency by Neopets?

    NeoBux is a neo nazi development group.

    Among other projects, they develop nazi AI.



  • @kt_ said in How much of a WTF is this?:

    Among other projects, they develop nazi AI.

    So does anyone else who makes AI: sooner or later, it's gonna parse /b/


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    @Magus said in How much of a WTF is this?:

    parse /b/

    The very bad ideas thread is :arrows: :fa_hellfire:


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    @Magus said in How much of a WTF is this?:

    sooner or later, it's gonna parse /b/

    FTFMST



  • @Magus Paid to click ads site. Probably the most legitimate and long running one around, though it's hard to know if most of the money is actually coming from advertisers or from people who are paying to "rent" referrals or pay for upgraded memberships.

    The way they work is, you sign up, you are guaranteed 4 ads to click, each earn $0.001 for you. Randomly, a new, unfixed ad will pop up on the site, and clicking it is worth $0.01/$0.02 based on how long you are required to look at the site. Min cashout is $2. The way you make it not take forever is you "rent" referrals, people who signed up on the site without a referral link. They start at $0.20/month, and you get a kickback every time they click an ad, generally at half the rate you get. You only get the money from the referrals if you click your own ad that day.

    You can purchase an upgraded membership to increase the amount you get for you and your referrals clicking ads, and to increase the number of referrals you can rent.

    Is it a giant scam running off of people paying for memberships and referrals? IDK maybe. It's been running for at least 10 years at this point so it's probably less of a straight scam than a bad deal for most people anyway.

    Is it a giant money laundering scheme? Probably would have been caught by now.

    Is it a realistic way to earn money? Not really.


  • Impossible Mission - B

    @Magus said in How much of a WTF is this?:

    So does anyone else who makes AI: sooner or later, it's gonna parse /b/

    You joke about this, but did you hear about what happened to Watson? They had to go back and censor/delete certain areas of its learning after it wandered through Urban Dictionary and added certain undesirable words and concepts to its vocabulary...



  • @masonwheeler said in How much of a WTF is this?:

    You joke about this

    I don't.

    @masonwheeler said in How much of a WTF is this?:

    They had to go back and censor/delete certain areas of its learning after it wandered through Urban Dictionary and added certain undesirable words and concepts to its vocabulary...

    So much for the I in AI.



  • It's seriously going to be a problem in the development of AI: "Oh no, it learned to say things I don't like! I'll just delete that data from its memory!" - who knows manually interfering with an automated learning process will do; you've most likely just ruined the system.


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    @Magus said in How much of a WTF is this?:

    It's seriously going to be a problem in the development of AI: "Oh no, it learned to say things I don't like! I'll just delete that data from its memory!" - who knows manually interfering with an automated learning process will do; you've most likely just ruined the system.

    The problem is the corpus — while the internet is a nice, up-to-date, accessible firehose of training material, it's also really low quality in a lot of places. Imagine the sort of person who believes everything they read, and then have them reading the internet 24/7 at a rate of thousands of words per second.

    Now put two of them that wandered slightly different paths on the internet in the same room... Maybe skynet will be built for the AI wars by the AIs.



  • This isn't necessarily a WTF. Angular is a framework for MVC with a focus on auto-binding, but IIRC it doesn't have good facilities for low-level DOM manipulation. In fact, I think Angular even recommends using jQuery for such manipulation in its documentation... but ONLY in certain situations:

    They only recommend using jQuery within directives, and even then, only in such a way that you aren't interfering with the binding functionality Angular uses. So, there's a lot of trouble you can get into if you abuse this. For instance, if you use jQuery to modify an input value that is driven from an ngModel binding, you might run into unexpected behavior, since you really should be just changing the value of ngModel. On the other hand, if you're using jQuery to add an effect to your directive, like a dropdown or something, then it's OK.



  • @pydsigner said in How much of a WTF is this?:

    Imagine the sort of person who believes everything they read,

    The goal is to get it past that, or else its worthless.


  • Impossible Mission Players - A

    @Magus said in How much of a WTF is this?:

    It's seriously going to be a problem in the development of AI: "Oh no, it learned to say things I don't like! I'll just delete that data from its memory!" - who knows manually interfering with an automated learning process will do; you've most likely just ruined the system.

    :wave: From personal experience, this is typically a Bad Thing to do. Well, unless the mind is reparable, but some things just don't heal right...


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @pydsigner said in How much of a WTF is this?:

    then have them reading the internet 24/7 at a rate of thousands of words per second.

    0_1472762822041_upload-e882c06e-2f39-4b89-8ee2-af6875873db2


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Magus said in How much of a WTF is this?:

    I don't.

    I think it was /pol/ who did the deed. They're like /b/ but without the nice friendly nature.



  • @dkf said in How much of a WTF is this?:

    They're like /b/ but without the nice friendly nature.

    Stands to reason. That's the politics board, no?

    I like the things that filter out of /tg/, but I really have no interest in actually visiting there.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Magus said in How much of a WTF is this?:

    Stands to reason. That's the politics board, no?

    Cesspit central, yes.



  • Angular uses a stripped-down version of jQuery itself, AFAIK (for DOM traversal and AJAX). I see no problem with this.

    The project I'm on uses jQuery Widgets. It has Angular wrappers so you can insert them as directives.


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