Jacko innocent????



  • [H] that must be the most bullshyt verdict next to OJ.



  • Yeah, they let too many guilty people off just cause they're famous. 

    If it were up to me, he would be shot simply for assisted natural selection. 



  • Erm, what do you mean by assisted natural selection? He hasn't been involved with eugenics, as far as I know...


    The verdict was inevitable, as the prosecution failed to prove their
    case beyond reasonable doubt. Most people are, of course, fairly sure
    he did it, or at least has done it in the past, but you can't return a
    criminal verdict because it's what you think; you need to see hard
    evidence. That wasn't provided (though they should possibly have taken
    more notice of those psychologists...)



  • I agree.  He should have been convicted but as said the prosecution did not have enough hard evidence against him.  I think that the jury wanted to convict him but just could not based on the laws.  Maybe the family will sue him in cival court and win a huge sum of money and Jackson will never pay it, just like OJ.[:P]



  • In my opinion, the prosecutor just failed to provide any convincing
    proof. Fact is, there's some borderline between the things you can and
    cannot do with children. MJ has been so very close to this border that
    it's just not clear if he really crossed it or not. Fact is, he might
    have been declared not guilty, but not guilty is still different from
    innocent...



    Another problem in this case were of course the witnesses in this case.
    The mother who I think even had a criminal record or at least the
    reputation of doing fraudulous things. The other unreliable witnesses
    who might be holding grudges against MJ for whatever reason. The fact
    that MJ is also an easy target simply because he not only has to defend
    himself but also his reputation. (A reputation that became badly
    damaged by all this.) There just wasn't any evidence that MJ really did
    what his "victim" claimed...

    A victim who got forced by the procesutor to appear in court this time.
    After the previous case against MJ, they added a new law that made it
    much harder for abused children to just settle the case with just a
    huge sum of money. The previous time, this is how MJ managed to escape
    court, simply by paying a large amount of cash. And he had good reasons
    to just pay and be done with it. The previous time, the jury might also
    have declared him 'not guilty' but it would cost him more than the
    settlement in the costs for his own lawyers and other legal costs, plus
    the costs in lost time for him for all the court appearances. This case
    has been very expensive for MJ.

    Could he ever get his expenses back? That's not very likely because who
    will have to pay for them? Actually, to get his money back, he'd just
    have to start a new court case against the state and probably against
    several others just to get his expenses back. And this, of course,
    would cost him even more, while he's near bankrupt anyway...



    Could the family sue MJ in a civil court? They could certainly try but
    then MJ can easily reverse the case too and sue the family for all his
    expenses. This family would never be able to pay for all those expenses
    anyway and chances of winning such a case isn't very high for them
    either. So if they're smart they don't even try.



    MJ has been very close to the borderline of what can and cannot be done
    with kids. If he crossed this line is just his bedroom secret that only
    he and his victims know about. And sure, they did find (gay) porn
    magazines and other suspicious stuff at his house but as I heard it,
    his house is just a complete mess. I don't think it would be even clear
    if this stuff is from MJ or if one of his employees who keeps that
    place in order owned this stuff. I could imagine that e.g. his gardener
    might be collecting gay porn magazines and retreats to the shed to read
    those magazines to 'enjoy' himself, keeping those magazines
    well-hidden. Do we really know for sure that this stuff was bought by
    MJ???



    The biggest question is of course if MJ is gay or not. He has been
    married twice but apparantly isn't a very skilled lover. Probably
    because his nose keeps falling off all the time... Makes me wonder...
    What do we know about his sexlife anyway?



  • @Katja Bergman said:



    The biggest question is of course if MJ is gay or not. He has been
    married twice but apparantly isn't a very skilled lover. Probably
    because his nose keeps falling off all the time... Makes me wonder...
    What do we know about his sexlife anyway?




    Question aside, to quote a joke that has been floating around lately:
    Its the guy with the umbrella that makes him "unskilled in bed", not
    his nose falling off (he takes that off before bed...)



    All in all, I think this is by far one of  the most well-rounded
    posts on this subject. I do feel he's guilty, but it may be because, as
    you say he is treading very near a very fine line, and some, such as
    myself think he may have crossed it, but as you say there wasn't enough
    credible evidence. Hmm.



    As for anything else. He's a strange character in his public life, no telling how strange in private...



  • @Katja Bergman said:



    The biggest question is of course if MJ is gay or not. He has been
    married twice but apparantly isn't a very skilled lover. Probably
    because his nose keeps falling off all the time... Makes me wonder...
    What do we know about his sexlife anyway?


    Erm, is that really relevant to this case? Almost certainly not.



  • @rsynnott said:

    @Katja Bergman said:


    The biggest question is of course if MJ is gay or not. He has been
    married twice but apparantly isn't a very skilled lover. Probably
    because his nose keeps falling off all the time... Makes me wonder...
    What do we know about his sexlife anyway?


    Erm, is that really relevant to this case? Almost certainly not.


    Of course this is relevant. Is he gay, straight or bisexual? If he's
    straight, then why would he ever have sex with young boys in the first
    place? He'd be more dangerous for young girls in that case but I've
    never heard any girl complain about sexual advances from Michael.



    And we do know that he has been married twice now. And apparantly he
    did have had sex with his wifes too. We just don't know if he had any
    lovers before these two wifes so it could be that his first marriage
    was just meant to fool the world. He might just have wanted us all to
    think he likes women, so he married one. His second wife was just there
    to poop out some babies for the king of poop pop...



    Apparantly they did find plenty of pornographic material at his place
    too but as I've said before, is it really his porn or did some employee
    in his house hide this collection there on purpose. Just imagine it, if
    you want to discredit your boss, just put some incriminating evidence
    in his house. With so many people who have access to his place, I am
    amazed that they didn't find a lot more, even...



    MJ is an ideal media target for years now. Extremely popular and not
    capable to defend himself against most of those accusations. This has
    been going on for how long? 20 Years or more, perhaps? The rich and
    famous have always been a favorite target for gossipers and especially
    MJ with his weird interests does make an easy target for them.



  • @Katja Bergman said:



    Of course this is relevant. Is he gay, straight or bisexual? If he's
    straight, then why would he ever have sex with young boys in the first
    place? He'd be more dangerous for young girls in that case but I've
    never heard any girl complain about sexual advances from Michael.






    In general, where a paedophile even HAS a conventional sexual
    orientation, it won't affect the gender of the kids they go after; most
    paedophiles apparently also go for both genders.


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