Magic: The Gathering thread
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@Magus said in Why is polygamy illegal?:
@error I have the demon that's the inverse of that. Costs like 3 for a 5/5 flier, but you can't win and they can't lose while it's alive.
Polygamy thread is too interesting to derail with M:tG, but I still want to talk about it.
I love the ruleset, which is Turing complete.
The terminology is very precise, bordering on legalese. I get really into reading the judge rulings about how edge cases resolve. I saw a ruling once where the game basically gets into an infinite loop of 1. state-based action fires, 2. a triggered ability prevents it, 3.
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@error said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
The terminology is very precise, bordering on legalese.
Maybe now. That said, I haven't looked at printed rules younger than 20 years or so.
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@error now I want a transpiler that converts javascript to MTG
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@boomzilla said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
Maybe now. That said, I haven't looked at printed rules younger than 20 years or so.
It was the Wild West back then. Even looking at the cards, they're much, much less ambiguous now than they used to be in ye olde times.
I still kinda want to apply to be a judge since I'm much better at figuring out the rule kinks than actually playing the damn game, but I can never find time for MtG anymore.
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God, I haven't played since.. Mirrodan?
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@Yamikuronue And ever since New Phyrexia won, artifacts have been pathetically weak. I started in Theros, and so I look back on Mirroden and wish they'd make more.
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@Yamikuronue said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
Mirrodan
It was called Mirrodin, and that's also the last edition I played. :D
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@Yamikuronue That's one block later than me. I stopped at the end of the Odyssey block (and actually started at the beginning of the Tempest block). I remember seeing, and probably have some cards from, the Onslaught block, but I think I'd practically stopped playing by then.
I've since gotten a bit into Force of Will, but I've been having trouble finding a place to play locally where people casually play (because I don't want to drop $5 every time I want to play because it's a "tournament").
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I know I started this bread, but I honestly haven't played in a long time.
I almost enjoy reading about the game as much as playing it. It fascinates me because the game itself is a program of sorts.
That said, I have a Magic Online account I haven't logged into in years. I dumped more money than I'd like to admit into digital cards (which I still think is the way to go; physical cards have a lot of drawbacks). If anybody wanted to meet me on there, I could maybe share the wealth.
If you don't know anything about the game, I'd also be willing to tutor (given that I'm out-of-date on what's standard legal these days).
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@ChaosTheEternal The obv. solution is to drop $24 on a draft.
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I just want a new Kamigawa. There were cool things in the last one, but it was generally messy. They could do it right this time!
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Here's the cards for the latest set.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/eldritch-moon
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@cheong Gonna buy a box so we can draft that at work!
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For those who haven't played MtG for some time, note that the symbol on the land that appears in the page I linked to is for colorless mana and there are some spells have cost that can only be paid by this.
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@Yamikuronue said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
Mirrodan
@Magus said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
Mirroden
IT'S MIRRODIN FOR FUCK'S SAKE
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Last time I played was Ice Age, other than one or two games about 5 years ago, when I learned just how much it sucks now.
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Last time I played, the editions were still numbered. From this thread, I am assuming they developed a sense of shame over that.
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I remember someone talking about wanting a legendary spider for a commander. Whoever it was just got their wish:
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@Magus said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
I just want a new Kamigawa.
You might be the single person on Earth who does.
Since I got my Ravnica II, now I want another Time Spiral. It both has sentimental value to me, being the block I started playing in, and it was an overall fun and deliciously meta block.
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@Magus Huh, "card types in graveyard" is a keywords mechanic now? I guess Goyf wasn't expensive enough?
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What really sucks is that the legendary werewolf is so shitty.
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@Maciejasjmj said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
It both has sentimental value to me, being the block I started playing in
I cut my teeth on Lorwyn, and Shards of Alara.
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@jules102_9 said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
What really sucks is that the legendary werewolf is so shitty.
Legendary was a shitty game.
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Dang, my Abzan +1/+1 counter deck just got so much better. 1WW for counters on every creature, and situational removal and/or enchantment hate on a creature tap? Whoa.
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@Maciejasjmj said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
You might be the single person on Earth who does.
Nah, a few people do. Kamigawa had interesting mechanics, but they messed it up badly for various reasons. Again, i think they could make it fun.
@Maciejasjmj said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
another Time Spiral
I'd be behind that.
@jules102_9 said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
What really sucks is that the legendary werewolf is so shitty.
Well, it's a werewolf after all...
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Huh, seems like the next set is revamping some things. Fat packs are now Bundles, Intro packs are Planeswalker decks, and then there's this:
Special cards Edit
Each Planeswalker deck features five cards that won't be found in the corresponding expansion, but that will be considered connected to that block for Standard legality (meaning Planeswalker Decks will be playable in Standard).Cards you can't pull from a booster getting Standard legality. Seriously?
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@asdf said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
It was called Mirrodin, and that's also the last edition I played.
I think I picked it back up around then for a bit, and the name seems familiar. I still have beta cards (and knew a guy who had some alphas).
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@Dragnslcr said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
Last time I played was Ice Age
That was about the time I bought myself a deck and some boosters, and never really got into it more than that. I sold any card of value over a decade ago to a few friends who did like the game.
other than one or two games about 5 years ago, when I learned just how much it sucks now.
Heh … last time I played it was … oh, ten years ago or so, when a friend of mine wanted to play in a friendly multi-round booster draft game. Since he was my ride home I decided to play too, mainly to avoid sitting around getting so bored (I find card games exceedingly dull to watch, especially with experienced players) that I would have felt walking the 30+ km home was preferably to staying. One guy I got to play against got ever more annoyed with me as the game went on because I had to read pretty much every card to see what it did :)
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@Magus said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
@cheong
[Coax from the Blind Eternities]
Actually there were similar cards in the past. They've made it clear that while in casual gameplay you can fetch the card you want anywhere else, in games under DCI events you can only get the "outside the game or in exile" from the exiled card or your sideboard.
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@Maciejasjmj said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
@Magus Huh, "card types in graveyard" is a keywords mechanic now? I guess Goyf wasn't expensive enough?
No. Just card types. And cards in graveyard still have card type.
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Speaking of - is there still any way to play Magic online that doesn't involve buying cards? There used to be Apprentice and Cockatrice, and in Poland there was a quite awesome Wizard, but all of them seem quite dead and/or moving towards other card games.
I gnow Wizards like to slam those things down with cease and desists, but it would be nice if they provided people with some way to playtest their decks before buying them for heavy money. And no, Magic Duels doesn't count until they let you put 4 rares in.
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@Maciejasjmj There are bots that hand out some allowance per person per day of free low-demand cards. Basically junk commons and uncommons, but enough to play Pauper format.
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@error On MODO? Cool and all, but you can't really try your super special awesome deck you have in mind with junk commons. I'm rather thinking something non-competitive - basically the online equivalent to proxying.
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@Maciejasjmj cockatrice still works. If you can find the download. I can share it if people want it...
Here's my primary deck (IRL) - I've been working on it for a while (since just about the end of New Pyrexia)
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@Maciejasjmj holy crap ima need one of those
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I started somewhere between revised / 4th edition-- just late enough to miss pulling dual lands from boosters. The first full expansion I got in on was Fallen Empires, and eagerly awaited Homelands. That-- that was not a good expansion.
I dropped out around Tempest / Urza cycles-- so nearly 20 years.
I still enjoy looking at the new cards, and occasionally buying some singles if they fit well in any of my legacy decks. A few times a year I'll binge on reading the backlog of design articles.
I've got about half a dozen decks built up, and a couple dozen bits and pieces that can become decks. Just no time anymore, nor anyone to play against.
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@r10pez10 Tron/Pokemon slash? Eww.
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@r10pez10 Fine, but I still say it looks more like a Tentacruel.
GIS thinks this is "visually similar".
sniff Does anyone smell (long) pork cooking?
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Filed under: Ever so slightly OP.
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Didn't get anything cool from the fat pack, aside from a legendary human that makes all lands and creatures your opponents play enter tapped.
I'll be drafting a box with guys from work at some point, though!
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@Magus Sounds like you have too much disposable income.
Filed under: Said the guy with over 1600 Steam games.
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@error said in Magic: The Gathering thread:
Filed under: Said the guy with over 1600 Steam games.
Wow. I don't have that many. And I buy like 10-12 games a week from shitty bundles.
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@blakeyrat I wrote a quick sum script for https://store.steampowered.com/account/history/
Looks like I've dropped ~$13k on Steam all-time... Which is lower than I feared.
MySteamGauge values it at $17524.41. Does that mean I could theoretically net $4k from someone stupid enough to buy it?
Array.from( document.querySelectorAll( '.wht_total' ) ) .map( e => parseFloat( e.innerHTML.replace( /[^\.\d]/g, '' ) ) ) .filter( e => !isNaN( e ) ) .reduce( ( total, curr ) => total + curr, 0 );
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@error You got me beat. I'm only $14620.
I've also (according to that site) spent more time playing XCOM: Enemy Unknown (a game I mostly hated) than STALKER: Call of Pripyat (a game I love). But since I know how fucking awful Steam is at time tracking, I'm not taking that too seriously.