Contracting Part 3 : Recruiters



  • I am starting to run out of Rambo movies to take titles from.

    For those that don't know, in the UK in August, kids get 6 weeks off before the new school year. In July a lot of people that don't have kids take time off. I don't do holidays because I am shit at planning ahead and traditionally took all my holidays in March.

    So I am dealing with rather shit recruiters at the moment due to no contracts being about:

    Specimen 1:

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    COMPUTER DEVELOPER POSITION

    Specimen 2:

    Position Requirements:

    Very good .NET development skills

    • Experience developing SPA applications using Angular, JavaScript, HTML5, Typescript
    • Experience in WCF/WebAPI/EF/SQL Server 2012 etc.. technologies).
    • Optionally: ASP.NET MVC experience
    • Optionally: Developing Frontend tests using Selenium
      Project duration is 1+ year

    Okay this sounds interesting, the job is in Austria but it sounds like the ideal contract as I do all that stuff.

    So I send over my CV (resume for you Americans) and the rate I am expecting, I expect between £300-400 which is market rate in the UK. I put myself more cheaply to give myself a greater chance of getting a contract.

    Hi Luke,

    As discussed with my account manager, regarding your expectation, it is a bit too high. We have 300 euros per day, all inclusive. Please suggest.

    Now I know that the pound has fallen recently but fuck right off, they are taking a massive chunk off the rate. They are greedy bastards.

    Considering I would have to pay for travel, pay for accomondation etc. I was being very cheap.

    My response.

    They are having a laugh then



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    Oh for christ sakes if you are using a script at least bother to get the formatting consistent.

    EDIT: I didn't put in the yellow formatting.


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    @lucas1 said in Contracting Part 3 : Recruiters:

    Considering I would have to pay for travel, pay for accomondation etc. I was being very cheap.

    If they would pay extra for your expenses, 300€/day would be reasonable. What fucking shithole doesn't pay travel expenses?



  • @asdf A lot of places won't. I was working at Capita and they wouldn't pay accommodation or mileage.


  • sockdevs

    @asdf said in Contracting Part 3 : Recruiters:

    If they would pay extra for your expenses, 300€/day would be reasonable.

    now i don't know the contracting lingo all that well, but doesn't the phrase "all inclusive" indicate they are covering expenses such as travel?

    or is this one of those things where the intuitive reading is incorrect because lawyers?


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  • @accalia The rate is too low and they will put you up in the cheapest place you can find and will be very restrictive on expenses.

    I had a guy argue about a glass of wine with a meal on expenses, I'd rather they just pay me more and let me choose how I spend my money.


  • sockdevs

    @lucas1 said in Contracting Part 3 : Recruiters:

    they will put you up in the cheapest place you can find

    accalia: well i'm sorry, but you said to get the cheapest place i could find, and i looked and i looked and i looked and the only place i could find is this $400 Euro a night five and a half star hotel. Yes i know it's expensive, but you did say i was to get the cheapest place I could find.

    :fa_question:



  • @accalia Absolute bollox :rolleyes:


  • sockdevs

    @lucas1 said in Contracting Part 3 : Recruiters:

    @accalia Absolute bollox :rolleyes:

    you know that....

    i know that....

    they might not be smart enough to know that.



  • @accalia lets not sign up for 12 months (the contract length) on the off chance they might be idiots.



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    This job keeps on popping up but they can't even be arsed to do CTRL + A and set the font in Outlook.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @lucas1 said in Contracting Part 3 : Recruiters:

    they can't even be arsed to do CTRL + A and set the font

    I've had students like that. They were the ones who were both lazy and stupid.



  • Literally had a call from a recruiter where they want me to interview in the next 5 minutes.



  • @lucas1 Suit up!


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @lucas1 said in Contracting Part 3 : Recruiters:

    I had a guy argue about a glass of wine with a meal on expenses

    In the US, the amount varies by location, but you can claim up to $x/day of meals without providing any substantiation.


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