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@aliceif said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@NedFodder said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
Jeffing things around is not easy, quick, or effortless.
This. I posted a thread about that here. And later on, @Yamikuronue also posted one.
That's a shame. I honestly feel for you.
But locking is easy? Maybe the thread could be restored and locked and even @blakeyrat wiuld be happy this way?
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@kt_ said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
Hey, I just like to jack off when I know that people like me, that's not weird, is it? I mean, I know that everybody probably does that. Well, everybody except @blakeyrat, of course.
I wouldn't consider it weird. Everyone wants to be loved, right?
Just that @blakeyrat doesn't seem capable of recognizing people like him, so he ends up engaging in antisocial behaviour to force people to emulate his perceptions of them.
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@bb36e seriously, I'm a cute Japanese schoolgirl.
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@kt_ said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
But locking is easy?
Yes. If Blakey had asked for the thread to be locked, I'd have done it. It takes about two seconds.
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@Yamikuronue it can still be done, and would make both blakey and kt happy afaik
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@fbmac said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@Yamikuronue it can still be done, and would make both blakey and kt happy afaik
Nothing will make me happy anymore. I've been violated and scarred by @blakeyrat for life.
But it would make my life at least a bit more bearable.
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@fbmac said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
we're on the internet, 99% of the population here is male
It's not the 90s anymore, there's a lot more diversity online now. There's probably a good 10% of women here.
Well, maybe it's closer to 5%. But no less than that.
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@kt_ said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
But it would make my life at least a bit more bearable.
Oh no! Quick! Remove yourself from the anus before you're lost permanently!
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@anonymous234 said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@fbmac said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
we're on the internet, 99% of the population here is male
It's not the 90s anymore, there's a lot more diversity online now. There's probably a good 10% of women here.
Well, maybe it's closer to 5%. But no less than that.
The correct quotation is "there are no girls on the internet". There are also no boys on the internet. The internet is FUCKING HELL NVIDIA UPDATER STOP STEALING FOCUS
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@ben_lubar said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
The internet is FUCKING HELL
NVIDIAJAVA UPDATER STOP STEALING FOCUSFTFY
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@accalia said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@ben_lubar said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
The internet is FUCKING HELL
NVIDIAJAVA UPDATER STOP STEALING FOCUSFTFY
Java still exists?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@accalia said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@ben_lubar said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
The internet is FUCKING HELL
NVIDIAJAVA UPDATER STOP STEALING FOCUSFTFY
Java still exists?
unfortunately.
when minecraft finally ports itself off of java i expect that's when the platform will actually enter its death throes
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@accalia said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
when minecraft finally ports itself off of java i expect that's when the platform will actually enter its death throes
Come on, Microsoft, you have a perfect chance to inner-platform this sh*t!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@accalia said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
when minecraft finally ports itself off of java i expect that's when the platform will actually enter its death throes
Come on, Microsoft, you have a perfect chance to inner-platform this sh*t!
Technically you can convert any turing-complete language to any other turing-complete language. For example, you could convert Java bytecode to C by running an interpreter written in C that comes packaged with your Java bytecode.
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@Tsaukpaetra The last time they touched Java, they got sued. They'll be staying away.
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@Magus said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
They'll be staying away.
That's what I'm saying: migrate out the code into something they actually own.
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@accalia said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@ben_lubar said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
The internet is FUCKING HELL
NVIDIAJAVA UPDATER STOP STEALING FOCUSFTFY
WebUpd8 PPA FTW.
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@accalia said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@Tsaukpaetra said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@accalia said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@ben_lubar said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
The internet is FUCKING HELL
NVIDIAJAVA UPDATER STOP STEALING FOCUSFTFY
Java still exists?
unfortunately.
when minecraft finally ports itself off of java i expect that's when the platform will actually enter its death throes
you think java worse than ruby and python? it performs a lot better, and is easier than c++
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Ruby is an abomination e'en unto the devil herself.
Python is useful for getting people who are used to programming in FORTRAN (scientists mostly) onto a more modern system
Java's just bad.
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@accalia said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
Java's just bad.
ITYM corporately-beloved, stuffy, bureaucratic and verbose. It's the “why use 10 characters when 10k will do” of modern languages, and like the previous holder of that title (COBOL) it'll be around with us for a long time yet.
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@fbmac not surprising, given its target audience was no stranger to... heavy-handed moderation.
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@accalia said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
Java's just bad.
I wouldn't call it bad.
It has its flaws. It's relatively slow, it's super verbose, the owner of the IP is utterly fucktarded, but it's not a bad language. I haven't really noticed it being slow recently - probably due to increasing processing power, etc. The verboseness is greatly improved by tools (Hi IntelliJ!), and... well we'll just pretend Oracle doesn't exist, k :)
It's got many fewer "Gotcha!s" (hi JavaScript), the build and deployment environments are relatively sane (Hi npm and Ru-fucking-by) and it generally works well cross-platform (C#), if you need that.
I'd agree C# is probably better (I should learn how to C# some day...) but it's got that disadvantage of lock-in, especially on the web side. You don't get that with Java.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@accalia said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
when minecraft finally ports itself off of java i expect that's when the platform will actually enter its death throes
Come on, Microsoft, you have a perfect chance to inner-platform this sh*t!
Ewwwwww that's a source code converter? Ick!
I'd be interested in a 3rd party doing a JVM implementation in .net - of course they'd probably get sued... but... it would be nice
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@sloosecannon I concede that C# is a better high level language, but removing C# from the equation, I don't know if any of the other ones can really claim to be better than Java.
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@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
It's relatively slow, it's super verbose, the owner of the IP is utterly fucktarded, but it's not a bad language.
E_NON_SEQUITUR.... you just listed three very good reasons why it is a bad language and then called it not a bad language.......
@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
It's got many fewer "Gotcha!s"
aye, but the ones it does have are monumental and all but impossible to climb out of once you fall in them.
@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
the build and deployment environments are relatively sane
i've see Maven..... i've seen jenkins.... i would not call either "sane"
@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
and it generally works well cross-platform (C#), if you need that.
C# has been getting better on that score thanks to mono and roslyn.
as for the champions of cross compatibility, Java is at least as cross compatible as Python, i know many packages in both that will only work in one os or the other, and many many many more that will work equally well in both. Python also has the advantage of the popular GUI libraries actually use native widgets and so look good in every OS instead of java which looks like boiled ass in all of them.
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@accalia said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
i've see Maven..... i've seen jenkins.... i would not call either "sane"
Maven is saner than NPM ;)
Travis is better than Jenkins though.
Also, Minecraft did get off Java IIRC for the Windows 10 Edition, but that started with the mobile codebase, so it's like 17 versions behind in terms of features, and the Java version is getting all the new feature attention anyway.
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@Yamikuronue said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
Maven is saner than NPM
hmm.... debateable.
@Yamikuronue said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
Travis is better than Jenkins though.
CAN I GET A FUCK YES FROM THE AUDIENCE?!
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@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
I'd agree C# is probably better (I should learn how to C# some day...) but it's got that disadvantage of lock-in, especially on the web side. You don't get that with Java.
I love this wrong stupid meme. It just never goes away.
It's a "disadvantage" for C# to be "locked-in" to the Microsoft ecosystem (something which isn't even factually true.) But the fact that Java is "locked-in" to a buggy, broken, bloated runtime that you can't even install without removing spyware afterwards? Hunky-dory!!!
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@blakeyrat said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
I love this wrong stupid meme. It just never goes away.
It's a "disadvantage" for C# to be "locked-in" to the Microsoft ecosystem (something which isn't even factually true.) But the fact that Java is "locked-in" to a buggy, broken, bloated runtime that you can't even install without removing spyware afterwards? Hunky-dory!!!There is the openjdk for Java. And the last time I checked Mono have a far worse performance than Java, but that was a long time anyway.
I'll check Mono again next time I get to choose tooling to do something on Linux. But C# without Visual Studio isn't the same thing.
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@fbmac said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
But C# without Visual Studio isn't the same thing.
Don't worry! Just use fucking Eclipse! If you love Java you'll love Eclipse! It's FUN AND QUALITY!!!!!
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@blakeyrat said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
you can't even install without removing spyware afterwards
*snort* Wrong.
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@blakeyrat said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
I'd agree C# is probably better (I should learn how to C# some day...) but it's got that disadvantage of lock-in, especially on the web side. You don't get that with Java.
I love this wrong stupid meme. It just never goes away.
It's a "disadvantage" for C# to be "locked-in" to the Microsoft ecosystem (something which isn't even factually true.) But the fact that Java is "locked-in" to a buggy, broken, bloated runtime that you can't even install without removing spyware afterwards? Hunky-dory!!!
Use Go and you won't have to be annoyed by Microsoft or Oracle. It's not an interpreted language, which is a plus.
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@ben_lubar said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
It's not an interpreted language, which is a plus.
yeah, but it's Go, that';s like a minus 10k to the "desirability" column.
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@blakeyrat said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@fbmac said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
But C# without Visual Studio isn't the same thing.
Don't worry! Just use fucking Eclipse! If you love Java you'll love Eclipse! It's FUN AND QUALITY!!!!!
I think eclipse is the best example of why engineers shouldn't be allowed to design UI. It's a shitfest of "all features are needed" and "we don't know how to design menus and settings screens."
And design is actually the best part of this turd, AFAIR.
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@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
generally works well cross-platform (C#), if you need that.
Wut.
@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
I'd agree C# is probably better (I should learn how to C# some day...) but it's got that disadvantage of lock-in
WUT.
@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
especially on the web side. You don't get that with Java.
WUT.
2005 called, they want your entire existence back.
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@ben_lubar said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@blakeyrat said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
I'd agree C# is probably better (I should learn how to C# some day...) but it's got that disadvantage of lock-in, especially on the web side. You don't get that with Java.
I love this wrong stupid meme. It just never goes away.
It's a "disadvantage" for C# to be "locked-in" to the Microsoft ecosystem (something which isn't even factually true.) But the fact that Java is "locked-in" to a buggy, broken, bloated runtime that you can't even install without removing spyware afterwards? Hunky-dory!!!
Use Go and you won't have to be annoyed by Microsoft or Oracle. It's not an interpreted language, which is a plus.
Java is JIT nowadays, and I think C# has always been JIT.
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@PleegWat said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@ben_lubar said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@blakeyrat said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
I'd agree C# is probably better (I should learn how to C# some day...) but it's got that disadvantage of lock-in, especially on the web side. You don't get that with Java.
I love this wrong stupid meme. It just never goes away.
It's a "disadvantage" for C# to be "locked-in" to the Microsoft ecosystem (something which isn't even factually true.) But the fact that Java is "locked-in" to a buggy, broken, bloated runtime that you can't even install without removing spyware afterwards? Hunky-dory!!!
Use Go and you won't have to be annoyed by Microsoft or Oracle. It's not an interpreted language, which is a plus.
Java is JIT nowadays, and I think C# has always been JIT.
Compiling at runtime still counts as interpreted in my mind.
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@ben_lubar said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
Compiling at runtime still counts as interpreted in my mind.
The difference is the compiled bits are all cached, so any time something's been interpreted once it never has to be interpreted again.
The other difference is that Java and .Net's bytecodes are designed to be as close as possible to actual CPU instructions, so they can be compiled in practically no time at all.
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@PleegWat said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
JIT
Also, it's quite strange that we use a phrase that refers to automobile parts being ordered so that they arrive just as the previous load is used up to refer to something that happens just after the time it would have been useful.
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@ben_lubar Anybody else remember making 8-bit games in C and JIT-compiling your sprites?
Those were the days. Compiled sprites.
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@blakeyrat said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
I'd agree C# is probably better (I should learn how to C# some day...) but it's got that disadvantage of lock-in, especially on the web side. You don't get that with Java.
I love this wrong stupid meme. It just never goes away.
It's a "disadvantage" for C# to be "locked-in" to the Microsoft ecosystem (something which isn't even factually true.) But the fact that Java is "locked-in" to a buggy, broken, bloated runtime that you can't even install without removing spyware afterwards? Hunky-dory!!!
It's locked in to a buggy, broken runtime which can't be installed without removing spyware?
What exactly is openjdk then?
And if you think I use eclipse.... well....
You're wrong.
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@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
It's locked in to a buggy, broken runtime which can't be installed without removing spyware?
Yup.
@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
What exactly is openjdk then?
I dunno; some kind of new ice cream topping?
@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
And if you think I use eclipse.... well....
I think well, you heard it here first, folks.
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OK. I was... 11 then. So. Yeah.
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@blakeyrat excellent. Great response!
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@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
OK. I was... 11 then. So. Yeah.
WUT.
Math says you're younger than me. What is this world coming to? And where are you getting this ancient misinformation?
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@Magus said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@sloosecannon said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
OK. I was... 11 then. So. Yeah.
WUT.
Math says you're younger than me. What is this world coming to? And where are you getting this ancient misinformation?
My ancient misinformation is that it's not particularly easy to run a .net web application on, for example, DigitalOcean. Am I wrong? If I am, I may need to reevaluate my information, but everything I've read says it's not really easy to do...
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@fbmac said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@Tsaukpaetra I use the notifications when someone reply to me, the mention ones. But receiving all notifications in a topic just because you created it is stupid.
I don't think he's bitching about receiving notifications in a topic just because he created it. Those can be turned off. He's bitching about the fact that since he's created the topic and posted a bunch of posts in it, a bunch of people are @blakeyrat'ing him in it, and he can't block the notifications from @blakeyrat's. So he deletes the topic so nobody can @blakeyrat him in it.
@kt_ said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
people were @-mentioning him
You misspelled @blakeyrat'ing.
@blakeyrat said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
@Tsaukpaetra Yes.
Yes because I can't @blakeyrat you in any other threads. Oh wait, I still can.
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@sloosecannon It's only been a thing Microsoft helps at all with in the past year, but yeah, it's probably worth researching again.
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@blakeyrat said in Deleting topic does not remove notifications for the topic:
Those were the days. Compiled sprites.
Yeah, it was quite impressive to have textures represented by mathematical formulas. Too bad I lost the demo, it was nifty despite how the machine could barely run it at the time.
67kb file to run a game that typically would have required at least 50 Mb of data on disk full of data...